Any idea how feasable it is to put a F20C from a Honda S2000 into a 1986 Type 1 MR2?

are you kidding me, that's so stupid. toyota stays with toyota, honda stays with honda. it's that simple :banghead:

Stupid Ass

Easy with all the hostilities, this isnt Honda-Tech, we dont treat people like that over here...

Either way, what i believe they meant to say was.... Keep the crossbreeding to a minimum, engines belong with their own kind... unless you are Bill Strong...

sry guys just got carryed away with that one.

Keep the crossbreeding to a minimum, engines belong with their own kind... unless you are Bill Strong...

hehe, unless your Bill Strong, I like that :D

Ne way, I've entertained the idea of a B20 or H22 into an MK1. That would be pretty enteresting if you ask me. Not that I'd rush out and do it, but if I had an extra grand... Or 10 Grand :)

sounds like a fun idea (revvy motor with lightweight mr-config car). wiring would be hard and you'll have to modify the bellhousing on some tranny (forgot which) but somebody has done a f20 into a civic

why not drop a 3sgte in there?

The F20c from the S2000 would be more trouble than its worth, finding a gear box that would allow you to mount it transversly would be almost impossible.
However the F20c from the Integra/RSX/Accord Euro would go in with the right work.
3sgte would require more work than the F20c, sounds silly I know, but the turbo on the 3sgte simple means more work making it fit and run.

However both would require some major surgery, custom drive shafts and mounts to start with.
Then more than a little bit of rewiring to get the ECU hooked up would be needed.

Its the sort of thing you could do if you owned a shop, and had extensive knowledge of both Honda and Toyotas, its not the sort of thing you want to pay someone else do to though, if your that keen for more hp, then the existing engine is very strong, and there are plenty of other options.

If you want a V6, try to find a mechanic who will install the Pontiac Fiero Formula 1 V6 engine. My old mechanic only used to work on the Fiero and said it was very possible.

Lol a fiero engine that's useless hah heavy pos.

S2000 will require tons of custom work because it's rwd... if it was going in a rwd car then it'd be a dif story however.. what you need as a base is a fwd car.. luckily all other good honda engines could be transplanted with a custom install into the mr2 mk1 or mk2. Don't get me wrong, F20C is a beatiful engine!!! Unfortunately it's rwd and in a mid-ship design it's unfortunate hehe..

Only custom honda engine swap I know of is a H22A.. which would be cool. Tons of torque and horsies and potential for tuning.. and yet more or less same space.

For a mk1... imagine a b18c5 engine.. that would own..

I am disapointed with the first few ignorant and flameboy comments from the start.. so what...? It's the beauty of diy and custom work!

Honda, toyota, or whatever.. blah

The 4AGE is a magnificient engine of fine design and revolutionary technology for its 21 year old age.. its amazing..

But you must admit that vtec is quite something.. VVTi is not to compare.

Problem is.. honda makes all their stinkin cars fwd....... so go bye bye to all that wonderful power.. and yes yes there's wonderful 10sec hondas but who cares.. and yes there's wonderful handling hondas too but WHO CARES :)

On the other hand, a honda engine in a mid-ship rwd setup would own :) Put the honda prowess family engines to its magnificient best in a performanceu setup hehehe :D

Vtec isnt quite anything special anymore, every company has its variable valve timing with electronic lift control these days, some more powerful than VTEC or I-VTEC...

Vtec isnt quite anything special anymore, every company has its variable valve timing with electronic lift control these days, some more powerful than VTEC or I-VTEC...

name one...

not flaming...jus wanna hear which company has come out w/ something stronger than it, cuz it'd be news to me. :biggrin:

pst...guys...VTEC isn't that great (sorta know from exp.) but it's the best out there for small n/a motors.

what about toyota's t-vis or vvti (don't remember the abbreviation! lol) how would you rank that against VTEC?

why not drop a 3sgte in there?
cause it takes a TON of work... though it is possible, it's what i did. :naughty:

the biggest problem with any engine swap is that it 'isn't' supposed to be in there. it's harder to "crossbreed" them (as Lachean said) because this requires total customization. even with engines from the same company you will have a ton of custom work to do. if you want to do a "simple" swap, toyota makes a turbo 20v 4AG engine... then u should just have to figure out the wiring.

how is vtech so superior to cars with vvt-i? i thought it was almost the same thing... the altezza gets 210hp out of a 2.2L engine which seems pretty good to me...

if you are going to do a v6 take a look at Turbo Hi Tech Performance March 2003 titled Compound Forced Induction They take a second gen and install a lexas 1MZ-FE V6. then supercharge it then turbocharge it on top of that. wicked swap for any MR2.

Well ferrari has their own little system :) I dunno vtec i think is the best thing on any low displacment engine ever, f20c is a fine example period. F20C is such a nice engine urgh.. but blah anyways.

If you want just the lowest bang for buck and gain the most reliability/performance and even mpg .. 3SGTE is way to go.. if you already want to go custom.. might as well stick to that haha... all other swaps would cost a shit load more and more custom I bet.

Anyways, if you wana be NUTS be like bill strong haha northstar v8 LOL!

If you want just the lowest bang for buck and gain the most reliability/performance and even mpg .. 3SGTE is way to go.. if you already want to go custom.. might as well stick to that haha... all other swaps would cost a shit load more and more custom I bet.

3sgte swap does NOT = less custom or less expensive than the next swap. you still have to fabricate new mounts redo all the wiring from the engine bay back *including the ecu*. you have a turbo to deal with, and some minor body "re-adjustments" i.e. use a hammer to make the body panels on the inside of the engine bay bend the opposite way so the engine doesn't hit them... the celica had a 4ag engine with a stock turbo for a while... that probably would be the easiest way to get a turbo mk1. just buy the engine and mate it to the gearbox for the car, plug in the ecu and go! i'd assume engine mounts to be the same.

however, if you're up to a ton of work... i'm all for seeing another mk1.5! :D

The F20c from the S2000 would be more trouble than its worth, finding a gear box that would allow you to mount it transversly would be almost impossible.
However the F20c from the Integra/RSX/Accord Euro would go in with the right work.
3sgte would require more work than the F20c, sounds silly I know, but the turbo on the 3sgte simple means more work making it fit and run.

However both would require some major surgery, custom drive shafts and mounts to start with.
Then more than a little bit of rewiring to get the ECU hooked up would be needed.

Its the sort of thing you could do if you owned a shop, and had extensive knowledge of both Honda and Toyotas, its not the sort of thing you want to pay someone else do to though, if your that keen for more hp, then the existing engine is very strong, and there are plenty of other options.

You could bolt an accord tranny to an f20c, accords were built with f blocks so the tranny would bolt to it. All you really need to do is flip the engine and tranny around, fabs so engine mounts, lenthen or shorten the shift linkage if needed, the same for the axles, and change out the hubs to match. Wiring isn't as hard as everybody says either. An f20 powered AW11 would be cool but id rather keep it toyota.

BTW- Integra only came with the B18, B17, or B16(Xsi) The RSX has the K20, and the Euro Accord has an H22 in it I believe.

As for VTEC vs. VVt-i, VTEC actually changes the cam profile where as VVt-i and most other varible cam systems only change the cams timing advance or retard. VTEC is a great system for highpower streetable NA cars. Its is usless for racing and or efficient turbo applications.

Id personally would like to see a AWD 3s-gte AW11.