anyone know where to get a turbo?

bcreverend · 09-26-2003, 07:26 PM

hello everyone,
i was hoping that someone might be able to tell me where to find a turbo for a 1998 grand prix gt. i know that gm went with the supercharger route but if anyone could tell me of an aftermarket turbo or another car whose turbo would fit i'd appreciate it.
thanks,
rev

The Burning Rom · 09-27-2003, 05:21 PM

There is no direct bolt on turbo for the Gen II grand prix. There is A TON of modification required to add one to the car. INTENSE racing is one of the few places that have done it. It can be seen at www.intense-racing.com It is NOT a cheap or easy conversion. Just stick with the supercharger

bcreverend · 09-27-2003, 05:50 PM

thanks for the article. i hadn't seen that. yea i wasn't sure if there were any bolt on turbos. a local performence shop gave me a quote of about $4000 and i was just hoping to find something cheaper. i already have an electronic turbo on there but i want more power. right now i can go 100 mph at 3000 rpm...not too bad for a $50 plastic turbo....
thanks again,
rev

smoovrider · 09-28-2003, 06:11 PM

hey where did you get that turbo from because i was thinkin bout gettin one too

bcreverend · 09-28-2003, 07:46 PM

my dad actually got mine for me off of ebay. but you can get them cheaper from a marine/boat shop for about $50. it's just a fan used to blow gas fumes from a boat when it's idling, but it works fairly well, when you put it in you have two options you can have it directly blow into the throttle body and have it suck in air through a cone filter or you can have it in your driverside fender blowing into your air box. there are actual electronic turbos made for cars that you can get from

http://www.electricsupercharger.com/

i don't have any experience with these personally but i was looking into it before my dad gave me the marine blower. you can get a marine blower from the following website:

http://www.iboats.com/mall/index.cgi...eywords=blower

it's worked well for me.
good luck,
rev

smoovrider · 09-28-2003, 08:25 PM

which one of those turbos did your dad buy? and how is it gonna hook up to my intake system if i have a 9 in cone, how did you get ur hooked u got a pic of ur car or what?

smoovrider · 09-28-2003, 08:27 PM

is it loud when u change gears or is kinda quite? I wanna make loud noise like these other turbo charged car

bcreverend · 09-28-2003, 10:35 PM

you want to get the 12v 240cfm. i'm not sure exactly what you'll have to do to get it to fit your cone. my turbo blows into my air box with a square K&N. i had to modify the air box (i.e. cut it) to get the turbo to fit. i expect you might have to modify your tubing or ad tubing. the version with a cone filter i saw had steal tubing or piping from both ends of the turbo to the throttle body and the cone. i'll try to get you a pic of my car in the next day or so. it's pretty quiet you just hear a humm when you turn it on...if you want to make your car louder the best way to do that is get louder mufflers....if you want better shifts i recomend the thrasher shift kit. it's awesome.
later,
rev

The Burning Rom · 09-29-2003, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoovrider

is it loud when u change gears or is kinda quite? I wanna make loud noise like these other turbo charged car

That would be a Blow-off valve (BOV) making that noise...and you can only produce that sound if you actually have a REAL turbo.

You need real pressurized air in a closed loop to make the BOV sound when you return to a vacuum state due to shifting or letting off the gas.

smoovrider · 09-30-2003, 07:00 PM

okay yea i knew that

o well its was worth askin tho. anyways man bout that blower i didnt find the one you was talkin bout but when ever u get the pic maybe ill have some idea on what i need to do, cuz i just bout the car and really dont know to much bout what i need fo the car. iight so ill wait fo the pic thanks

Ripn12s · 10-01-2003, 04:47 PM

http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.as...mode=1&smode=1

Turbo kit for 97+ GP GT's very soon according to that thread. I would keep my eye on that.

Or,

http://www.zzperformance.com/zzp/pro...gal_sc_kit.htm

I would save your money on that fan, maybe while waiting on the release of the turbo you should throw some rockers on. What other mods do you have done to the car??

Tim

smoovrider · 10-01-2003, 08:49 PM

well i havent done to much to it i put my Speedbuilt Fenderwell Intake Kit in there and i did some overlays. im tryin to order the 180 T-stat. i ordered the 160 but thats fo the gp so i gotta send it back. kinda just workin on looks till i can do some serious stuff under the hood.

bcreverend · 10-03-2003, 12:48 AM

well i tried to take pictures of my turbo but it didn't work so well because the turbo is actually in the finder and you have to peek between the airbox and the finder to see it. again here is a link to where it can be bought:

http://www.iboats.com/mall/index.cgi...ategory=blower

i have seen a picture of a set up like yours with an electronic turbo in it but i can't remember where.....if i find the pic or the site i'll post it.

real turbo's and centerfugal superchargers are very expensive. that is why i asked my question if there were any cheap compatable turbo's for the GP. you can convert your GT to a GTP relatively cheaply by getting the parts from ebay or a pull-a-part, which i am thinking about doing when i have the money....but a cheap turbo would be preferable.

The Burning Rom · 10-03-2003, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcreverend

you can convert your GT to a GTP relatively cheaply by getting the parts from ebay or a pull-a-part, which i am thinking about doing when i have the money....but a cheap turbo would be preferable.

This is incorrect. There are many more differences between the L36 (N/A 3800) and the L67 (Supercharged 3800), besides the blower. The L67 has much stronger internals as it must withstand the force of the blower. The PCM is different. The throttle body is different. The transmission the L67 uses is much stronger. The list goes on. You're better off swapping the whole motor and transmission into your car.

Check out this site. It will give you more info.
www.l67swap.com

bcreverend · 10-03-2003, 03:46 PM

no doubt there is a lot of work and parts to replace but it' is cheaper than a turbo or centerfugal supercharger....a supercharged engine including the pcm goes for about $850 on ebay. a wiring harness is around $10-$20. i'm not sure about the transmission. i have seen a 1990 3.1 ltr turbo engine and transmission for $900. the cf superchargers and turbo kit's i have seen are $4000-$5000.

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