teach me about the B series motors...

Great2c4me · 09-01-2003, 11:42 PM

ok, here's the deal... I have a 94 civic coupe ex with a 1.6L motor, what class does this motor fit into... I know it says VTEC on the stock valve cover.

Did honda/acura ever release one of their vehicles state-side with a 'B' series motor? I am trying to get a feel for what kind of motor this is. what about the prelude, is that a b motor?
could I fit the b20 or b18 motor into my civic without having to move the motor mounts.
What kind of HP will you get out of a b series motor with just intake and exhaust. what kind of effective revs will you get out of this motor with intake/exhaust.
Will this motor fit up to the stock honda civic manual trans?
How much will I spend on a complete motor, and if need be a correct transmission?
Then what else do I need to worry about, will the links fit up to the cv joints and all?
Just to let you know, I have complete access to a garage where I can drop this motor in, but Is it easy enough?

now, you guys can tell that I have alot of Q's, and I have no idea what this job I'd like to do intails.
So help me out guys, Im tired of this stupid slow ace car.

dirty91crx · 09-01-2003, 11:49 PM

honda released the b16 in the del sol vtec and the civic si99-200....preludes do not come with a b motor..if you ever decide to put a b motor into you civic you will need the motor mount conversion which can be obtained through hasport....place racing and a few others. a b motor will not bolt up to a d series tranny....you can get b16's between 1200-2500 with tranny ecu and axles sometimes. cv axles need to be replaces with integra axles. shift linkages need to be replaced...i recomend the hasport kit. now are you willing to go through the time consuming job of installing the b motor? if not i suggest just getting a turbo kit for your car. cost you about the same as installing th b motor....a little more hp and tq will be gained ofer the b motor. and you get the cool bov sounds...

Great2c4me · 09-02-2003, 12:23 AM

well, that sounds like a plan. I dont know a whole lot about turbo's either... but I was looking into it the other night on ebay... do used turbo kit's ever go bad... Inner cooler i heard is an absolute must, especially here in the desert.
what about fuel supply, is that a big problem, I heard that it needs to be increased for turbo usage... you know 'bout this stuff?

turbo sounds like a better plan, with the exception of going through motors much more often.

Great2c4me · 09-02-2003, 12:27 AM

I just posted a thread crx forum... I wanted to know the difference in handling between the 94 coupe and the 91 HB, if anyone knows. I dig the 94 coupes handling, but I am definitely interested in that 91 HB, it looks easy, and hella lite!

dirty91crx · 09-02-2003, 02:23 AM

all turbo kits go bad eventually....like the turbo wears out over time....things dont last forever...yes the fuel system has to be upgraded with the use of a turbo system to greatly increase longevity and reliability..also fuel system upgrades in the form of a rising rate fuel pressure regulator is a must even at 7psi....unless you get a EMU to control the fuel then no need for a rfpr. now handling between a coupe and a hatch....hatch has better weight distribution over the coupe....lighter and therefore easier to handle. as far as the turbo kit blowin motors up quickly.....depends on how well you can tune....a properly tuned system can give years of reliability.

crxlvr · 09-02-2003, 03:38 PM

the old square preludes came with a b20a5 or some shit like that.

jcrx · 09-04-2003, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by crxlvr

the old square preludes came with a b20a5 or some shit like that.

Yip, and accords came with B18A's, but they are all completely different monsters.

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if you ever decide to put a b motor into you civic you will need the motor mount conversion

I hate seeing halfassed info like this. It depends on the year, the 88-91's yes you do need a mount kit, but after 91 they DO NOT. You do need to mix some of the B series and D series mounts and/or brackets.

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cv axles need to be replaces with integra axles. shift linkages need to be replaced...

Once again, half assed, no you can use the ones that came with the motor, once again see 92+

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now are you willing to go through the time consuming job of installing the b motor? if not i suggest just getting a turbo kit for your car.

I am going to say, you have never installed either, since both installs cn take the same amount of time, and actually, the swap would [probably take less time.

Great2c4me · 09-06-2003, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jcrx

Yip, and accords came with B18A's, but they are all completely different monsters.

I hate seeing halfassed info like this. It depends on the year, the 88-91's yes you do need a mount kit, but after 91 they DO NOT. You do need to mix some of the B series and D series mounts and/or brackets.

Once again, half assed, no you can use the ones that came with the motor, once again see 92+

I am going to say, you have never installed either, since both installs cn take the same amount of time, and actually, the swap would [probably take less time.

Check this out... One day I was driving my 01 civic coupe when I saw this dope ace 91 HB, not show room, but it was bull dog yo'... anyways, I was like 'ya!', he was in front of my just cruisin', then we pulled up to a single lane stop sign, I got beside him. I looked at him, he looked at me... dude, we took off, instantly he was pullin' on me... not too much quicker off the line, oh, but then I had to shift at about 7800... did he? hell no! he finally shifted probably about 9500, about 35mph. me, man, I felt like I was rowin' a boat... lol!
man he kept on it... damn dog that thing was quick... Im thinkin' atleast low 13's, if not in the 12's... that was sick. oh but one thing... man that thing was smokin' bad! white smoke.
I followed him just to his pad and checked it out. I looked under the hood with him... (I thought he said it was a v16, but I guess that doesn't make no sense.) so just a B16 with iceman intake and exhaust. he wanted to sell his hb as was for $3000...
so that was my ownly experience with a b16, or any b series motor, so when I hear talk about b motors, I ownly think of that rippin' 91 HB and what it did...
alright man, what do you think? do all b motors give them effective rippin' rev's like that, or is an internal set up of some kind?

crxlvr · 09-06-2003, 11:36 AM

b16's will rev freely to around 8200rpm before any kind of internal work is done, some kits are built to go upto and above 10,000rpm's

Great2c4me · 09-06-2003, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by crxlvr

b16's will rev freely to around 8200rpm before any kind of internal work is done, some kits are built to go upto and above 10,000rpm's

now when you say there are some kits, is that for rebuilding spec's, head work, valves, cams, etc... basicly, do the kits require long, extensive labor to work with/install, or are they fairly easy to work with?

dirty91crx · 09-06-2003, 03:28 PM

hehehehe didnt even cross my mind when i posted about preludes not having a b motor.....i had a 91 si b21a1.....i was wrong.....damnit!!!!! lol

crxlvr · 09-06-2003, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Great2c4me

now when you say there are some kits, is that for rebuilding spec's, head work, valves, cams, etc... basicly, do the kits require long, extensive labor to work with/install, or are they fairly easy to work with?

yea kits as in in new valvetrain components, depending on which company you choose, they all offer different rpm ranges.

you better have some detailed knowledge of ripping apart a head and all the proper tools to rebuild it with, dont think its just loosen this tighten that, headwork has to be done to spec.

Great2c4me · 09-07-2003, 03:03 PM

you better have some detailed knowledge of ripping apart a head and all the proper tools to rebuild it with, dont think its just loosen this tighten that, headwork has to be done to spec.[/quote]

I probably dont know alot about this stuff... all I know is that I want rippin' ride... Im leaning more towards 91HB. I dont care about show room stuff, just performance.
Im gonna have to get with some for real fools here in vegas and see whats up... I guess thats the best way to get hooked up with the ideas, the work and the shwag. I figure if I get the assembled motor and tranny I want, it'll be easy enough to drop it in my ride.
peace.

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