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initial d help


koen_ken
07-29-2003, 08:10 PM
does any know the anime Initial D, if so do you know the make and year of the trueno ae86 on the anime, im trying to remake that car if anyone has any info about that car please contact me
thank you, very much

koen_ken05@yahoo.com :frown:

blindmonk228
10-23-2003, 11:23 PM
yes i know the anime initial d literally. i own all of it and watched it over and over for like 100 times. the car was a japanese 83-85 zenki toyota sprinter trueno gt apex. if you live here in the US it would be a 85-87 corolla gts. but why get one? yes it is a fun car to drive and reliable. but if you believe that it is faster than those other cars in the anime than you were fooled. yes it can be faster than a stock civic with a b16a if it was modded mildly but it would be a lot of work. here is a guy (http://trueno.streetracing.org/) who made one then changed it after the anime got big.

Trueno Drifter
11-22-2003, 04:09 PM
The toyota Trueno tak drives in the anime is a 1.6L nonturbo AE86 5spd,
the HP of the stock eight-six was 130-140 horse power thanks to the powerful DOHC inline four 4A-GEU . :smokin:

I_need_money
11-27-2003, 07:40 PM
The car is a early model (zenki) Trueno sprinter or 85 and early 86 corolla gts hatch. If you want to buy don't be brainwashed into buying the hatchback. I own a hatch and it is a great cat but, I have riden in the coupe model same suspinsioin and everything but had alot less chasis flex and felt more predictable during drifts. Also the car doesn't have 130-140 hp I wish it did but sorry thats not true. The motor in the AE86 is the early model 3 rib TVIS blue top 4ag or 4agec I think you are right about the 4ageu (same engine but with 7 rib block) but only in the late model (kouki) japanese models. The motors only make 128 at the crank (japan version) and most say toyota had a bad habbit of over rating thier engines so it is actually more like 120 hp the us motors are the same but horse power figures are way lower because our 92 octane gas versus Japan 102 octane and all of out emisions crap. Also I might add that the GT-apex models came with a Limited slip differential or basicly a locker or posi trac to newbies. On the usa models it was an option and you can tell by the vin if you are buying one AE88#####T283 will have a LSD and any model ending in T282 doesnot but you can convert a non lsd car to lsd easily so I wouldn't be picky considering the rarity of these cars hope I helped

blindmonk228
12-06-2003, 08:57 PM
the ae86 was rated at i think at a stunning 89 hp at the wheels by import tuner

RISING-SUN
12-15-2003, 04:44 PM
YOU GUYS GOTTA ADMIT THOUGH, IT IS A CLASSIC.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE OLD CARS, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE NEW CARS. MY SELF I LIKE ANYTHING WITH 4 WHEELS, AND AN ENGINE THAT MOVES THE CAR AT MORE THAN 60 KM.

"BEFORE YOU DRIVE, YOU CUSTOMISE." Initial-D

blindmonk228
12-23-2003, 04:40 PM
where was that quote from the english dubbed version on initial d. cuz i don't remember it in the real jap version.

RISING-SUN
01-05-2004, 04:56 PM
I changed the one from the bigining of the DVDs.

the original said something like "BEFORE YOU DRIVE, YOU CUSTOMISE YOUR RIDE" or something like it.
i just tweeked it, and gave the original credit.

ultimatechaos
01-13-2004, 12:15 AM
the ae86 from initial D was running a (by the end) atlantic racing class A engine that was rated at 240hp NONturbo.

correct me if i'm wrong but that would be worth owning :D

RISING-SUN
01-13-2004, 02:47 PM
hell yeah! 240 hp in a car under 3000 pounds is a real rocket. go trueno go!:bigthumb:

"BEFORE YOU DRIVE, YOU CUSTOMIZE" Initial-D

blindmonk228
02-10-2004, 10:59 PM
actually the car has a curbed weight of somewhere around 2000 lbs.
3000 lbs. seems a little too heavy. it is lighter than a civic which is 2300 lbs/

ultimatechaos
02-11-2004, 07:03 AM
i was lead to believe there bout 900kg's (conversion to pounds?)

Initial_D
02-21-2004, 10:26 AM
I saw a downhill race on video between AE86 and GT-R R34,,,,,, guess who won?
the 86 won the downhill race , so everything in Initial d is true but no one can drive like tak unless if he's a great drifter (( with some luck))

dorikingts
03-10-2004, 08:36 PM
yeah that downhill race you saw was on a best motoring video. i own the video but i dont want to dig it up to see wich volume it is. yeah it is touge and you cannot pass on touge but if it were on a track the trueno would take the r34 in the corners but the r34 would pull away from the ae86 on the straits like no other. i am not dissing on ae86's because i own one and i love it but i do not like when ignorant people take a cartoons seriously

RISING-SUN
03-30-2004, 03:05 PM
actually the car has a curbed weight of somewhere around 2000 lbs.
3000 lbs. seems a little too heavy. it is lighter than a civic which is 2300 lbs/

like i said "under 3000 pounds"

"BEFORE YOU DRIVE, CUSTOMIZE YOUR RIDE" Initial-D

chrisellis
06-20-2004, 09:56 AM
its on best motoring international vol 5 im pretty sure. Not only does the 86 beat the r34 on the downhill but it also beats it on the uphill run.. watch the very end of the video. That is one special car though, not something to compare a normal 86 to, the car shown is owned by the drift king (Keiichi Tsuchiya), and more to the point, was built entirely by TRD and presented to him. So its one fine example of an 86. Still it is very possible to have an 86 that will out perform most of the cars you see on initial d, i know mine does. I bought it for $5000AU with a 4A-GZE engine in it, lets just say that i keep up with brand new WRX STi's on the straightaway.. and we all know how well an 86 will handle with a suspension upgrade. But to all you people out there who just want an 86 to drift becasue of initial d, always remember safety first, dont push urself on the roads, save it for the track. And if ur just learning how to drive, dont drift at all, do advanced driving courses, learn how your car handles and respondes but most importantly learn how to conrol it. Have respect for your car or you wont have it for long. Just my 2 cents.. hope it helps someone.

Valakin
10-16-2004, 12:56 PM
OK time to bring up an obandoned issue. Yes the Corolla would fuck up the Skyline. Check out Ueo's run at D1 last year. Modded to run at 240hp the little corolla killed the skyline, the supra, the rx7, and the silvia. So take a look at some drift times and records... The corolla can own much ass even if its underpowered. Take a look at last years Super Street ( ill find the issue number when i get off work ). There is a great article in there about it.

When it comes to the ae86 this is the secret... small light weight car running modest hp with a bad ass crazy driver = fucking up your super " I gotta brake for this turn " show car.

{Hachi-Roku}
11-04-2004, 10:44 PM
Yeah, it being to light would have to be the reason for it kicking ass, but I think if anyone really wanted to boost up the HP and have the money and parts to do so I would say it would be a pretty though car.

( I never seen the Initial D, but I love anime, I'll have to check it out. It's cool that the guy has a trueno, I'd want it more than a corolla. )

Also, could anyone help me find performance parts for the '85Corolla hatchback.

chowmein
11-05-2004, 12:26 PM
I saw a downhill race on video between AE86 and GT-R R34,,,,,, guess who won?
the 86 won the downhill race , so everything in Initial d is true but no one can drive like tak unless if he's a great drifter (( with some luck))


where did you find this video, i really doubt that an AE86 beat a GT-R R34 at that, on the downhill. R34 ATTESA system has drivetrain that can conquer downhill as well.

initial d - american version is truly insulting to the jap anime. voice-over is terrible, the names are all wrong!

{Hachi-Roku}
11-06-2004, 03:28 PM
I wouldn't doubt the GT-R lost, but then again the AE86 is a whole lot lighter. It does seem a little strange, but I seen a mini van beat a comaro.(it was funny stuff)

racer_in_black
11-08-2004, 11:22 AM
I've seen that video too, it was a panda trueno against a blue R34. The Hachi dominated on that course.

{Hachi-Roku}
11-08-2004, 08:19 PM
I think I'll stick to the AE86, I'm savin some money now, I got about 400 bucks, and I don't even have a job :grinno: I plan to get one soon thoguh.

racer_in_black
11-09-2004, 12:12 AM
AE86, corolla GTS, SR5, Levin, Trueno, Hachiroku are all pretty much the same thing. The levin has set lights, the trueno has pop up lights. The Corolla GTS and the Corolla SR5 are the US versions of the Hachi.

{Hachi-Roku}
11-09-2004, 08:56 AM
Yeah, they are the same thing, but the Trueno is from japan and it has the steering wheel on the right side. But that would be the only major diffrence.

{Hachi-Roku}
11-09-2004, 09:23 PM
Hey, are there any turbos for the AE86('85 corolla GT-S) or innercoolers? Do you think the engine could handle it?

racer_in_black
11-12-2004, 09:09 PM
There is an aftermarket turbo for the corolla, I forget who makes it. I think it's Greddy though. You have to do some mods but yeah, it can handle it.

{Hachi-Roku}
11-14-2004, 10:12 PM
Yeah, I don't think I'm getting the AE86 anymore, probably and 240SX, FD, or FC. Once I get a little more money maybe i'll buy a cheep AE86 for a project or something, maybe a drifting car.

racer_in_black
11-15-2004, 02:34 AM
out of those cars that you have on your list, I have three of them. The one I don't have is the FC. They're all good project cars. The bad thing is the 240 is the "new honda" now.

{Hachi-Roku}
11-15-2004, 11:03 AM
Yeah, I know what you're talking about. It's because drifting is getting more popular and that seems to be a the car everyone likes, but the S13 is the more popular than the 240SX but they're almost the same car. That's why I was leaning toward one of the RX-7's, I kinda like the RX-7 Turbo II, it has a good engine in it too, it would be fun to work on.

What cars have you modded and wich one you think is the best?
:)

racer_in_black
11-17-2004, 02:22 PM
I haven't worked on any of them yet. I'm prepping an engine for the corolla right now, I got some parts for all of them but they're not on the cars. I don't have much time to work on them. I like to mess around with the little corolla right now, it's pretty hard to break down compared to the others and the cheapest to fix too.

Have you decided which one to go for?

{Hachi-Roku}
11-18-2004, 05:12 PM
I think if I can find a FC, i'll buy it (turbo II), but if I can't, then i'll buy a 240SX.

yay! page 3

OmegaZ_27
11-19-2004, 09:05 PM
Ok, about Turbos,

Im guessing all of the Trueno fans have watched all of initial D? Well, anyways, Turbo setups do add speed, but they actually slow you down when drifting on corners if you dont know what you are doing (which can be at least 75% of normal drifters) Turbo lag is the problem.

And I would say to any AE86 owner, if you want to get more power, stay all N/A motor. Just go for a higher compression, ported heads, etc. It's a lot safer than turbos and it can save you a lot of money. Or if you want to do the whole initial D deal, go for an AE101 Motor.

{Hachi-Roku}
11-24-2004, 06:26 PM
Yeah, I see what you mean. Hey I wasn't really into the Evo 8's but i've been reading alot about their motors and stuff, so does any on know if they're Manual trans?

I know they're AWD, I know you could drift with AWD cars, but do you think it's any harder(or easier)?

OmegaZ_27
11-24-2004, 08:26 PM
Evo VIII. I love that word. But just way too pricey and out of my league. All Evo 8's are stick shift.

Lancer Evo RS & VIII= 5 speed manual.
Lancer Evo MR= 6 speed manual

Well... are you planning on getting one? Because if you want to drift one as a starter, good luck. It's not as easy as you think. If you want to be able to drift a AWD, I hear you should master RWD drifting first. I hear it's harder to drift a AWD car and it wastes the tires more.

{Hachi-Roku}
11-24-2004, 10:08 PM
I'm not saying I'm getting one but I would love one. They're a bit pricy for me too.

Yeah, I would think they're harder to drift.

racer_in_black
11-26-2004, 10:41 PM
think about it a minute, drifting is when you make wheels lose grip. Two wheels is hard enough, let alone 4

{Hachi-Roku}
11-28-2004, 07:48 PM
Yeah, I know that that's why I said it would be harder.

tacoma_dan
05-17-2005, 09:30 PM
AE86 hatchback and coupe, have great handling for drifting, if thats what u are looking for, straight away power isnt the best around but if u find modifications u can fix that. Down here in Puerto Rico the hatchbacks are super rare and are either in junker condition or perfect condition. The Coupes are all over the place and are just as good and maybe better.

AMC_DRIFTER
12-08-2005, 02:58 PM
Or....... If you want to be really fast on togue, get a supercharged 4AGZE. :naughty:

no turbo lag, but it will boost your preformance in higher in the mountains.

BTW a skilled driver in a light under-powered car will toast a heavy monster like a Skyline. The skyline can't make even custom brakes last a good attack on touge!

~IceY~
01-28-2006, 06:37 PM
Damn You Guys! I Need Help With Initial D! Is There An Anime Like Initial D With A Toyota Supra In It!??! Like An Mk Ii!?!? I Saw A Few Pics And I Wana Seee It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FDTT
05-12-2006, 12:26 AM
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Its a 1985 Toyota Carolla GTS, panda paint, Nardi wheel with fathers name ingraved in it, tokico shocks, TRD springs all round, 14" want.my.knobie's, panda paint, only thing that is missing from my car to make it the same would be the tofu sticker.

I have the 20V with ITB's and a CF hood sitting in the garage tho :P Make it the same as the car after he poped the engine :P

FDTT
05-12-2006, 12:31 AM
The car is sooooo fun to drive. Its no powerhouse.

My 20V with ITB, full exhaust, 12.5:1 compression, full valvetrain and custom cams and custom exhaust full stand alone ECU might get me 250-270whp. But thats pushing it.

Just think of it this way, straight roads are made for fast cars, corners are for fast drivers.

mushu
06-01-2006, 11:42 AM
The only reason the AE86 was used is because it is an excellent car for most motorsport and was very cheap, but ever since the show was released on Australia the price of them is so high, even for the Australian delivered 85 it really pisses me off because I wanted one long before Initial D became a TV show:banghead:

The other reason it was used is its the car that turned drifting into a sport because Keiichi Tsuchiya started to drift his 86 through downhill corners in race competition to carry extra speed and Taks technique is Keiichi's as a driver they are supposed to be the same, Keiichi also makes a small cameo on Initial D, in series 1.
He calls Bunta just before Tak races Ry Takahashi

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