What type of vehicle does everyone have?

Mine is a 1969 Ford Torino GT with a 302cu. and a C4. Its still a work in progress.

Current Car: 1971 Buick GS convertible
Former car: 1969 Buick GS convertible

1969 Firebird 350

1976 Mustang Cobra II with a 302 and a T5 transmission.

I don't have a muscle car yet. I can't afford the one I want. You can check out my three cars by clicking the links in my signature.

Not an owner yet, but I sure love to talk about them.

Polygon:

Welcome. Seems like you are quite the MOPAR lover. What is your dream muscle car?

Originally posted by Musclecarclub
Polygon:

Welcome. Seems like you are quite the MOPAR lover. What is your dream muscle car?

I am really torn between the 1970 Superbird, the 1971 Hemi Cuda, and a 1970 Challegner RT.

I've got a '67 mustang, I guess it's not really a musclecar, more of a gt car i guess since its only got the 200ci i-6 for now, and probably till i at least get through high school, its a work in progress anyway, but the lineage is there, and nothign warms my heart more than hearing a thumping torque monster musclecar peeling off the line.

I'll post this for my pop since he can't get on right now.

1979 Z28 Camaro- 350 SB

I love to drive my brothers '77 nova. While not technically a muscle car, it still packs a punch. 350 cid with a couple performance parts.

My dad owns (and I drive, occasionally) a 1976 Mercury Cougar XR7 with a 460cid engine. Beast to drive. Driven over 120mph (that's where it pegs, don't know how fast I was actually going) many times.

We're currently working on a 1977 Ford LTD II. Really nice condition (as opposed to the cougar, which is a junker with a new motor).

I'm still too knew to know what I want. Something with a hemi sounds really nice. From what I can tell a 427cid engine is where it is at. I read on the musclecarclub website that the 1966 427 Cobra is the fastest stock muscle car. I still can't figure out who made it, I originally thought cobra meant mustang. On that same site, however, it made no mention of the 427 Cobra in the history section of the 'stangs.

Someone wanna fill me in? *nudges musclecarclub.com webmaster*

Originally posted by wills0r
I read on the musclecarclub website that the 1966 427 Cobra is the fastest stock muscle car. I still can't figure out who made it, I originally thought cobra meant mustang. On that same site, however, it made no mention of the 427 Cobra in the history section of the 'stangs.

Someone wanna fill me in? *nudges musclecarclub.com webmaster*

You are mixing up the "real" Cobras that were manufactured by Carroll Shelby and the Ford Mustang Cobras. The Shelby Cobras were built by Carroll Shelby using Ford engines in an AC (a European lightweight sports car) body. The Shelby Mustangs were regular Mustangs modified (originally under the direction of Carroll Shelby but later with very little of his input) for increased performance. Finally, Ford just called their high performance Mustangs "Cobras." But they are definitely not the same.

Ah. So the cobra mentioned as the fastest stock muscle car is a shelby cobra then. Interesting. Thanks. (=

Yes. It doesn't look like much, but when that engine starts up, you quickly understand why.
http://www.shelbyamerican.com/cobra/images/Gallery/2024_1-640.jpg
Thats your Cobra. Fastest 60's Muscle car.

Originally posted by DeViL
Yes. It doesn't look like much


DOESN'T LOOK LIKE MUCH!!!!

I've always thought those cars looked very aggressive

Well the wide tires and the side exhaust pipes are aggressive yes but I've always thought the body looked like this dinky little euro car, like a MG or something. It's supposed to look like that anyways it was based off of european styling.

Originally posted by DeViL
Well the wide tires and the side exhaust pipes are aggressive yes but I've always thought the body looked like this dinky little euro car, like a MG or something. It's supposed to look like that anyways it was based off of european styling.

It was a european car, not just based off of one. The bodys were made by AC, all shelby did was throw a ford motor, tranny, ect into it.

Actually, Shelby made quite a few modifications to it. Completely changed the nature of the car. By the way, I rode in a replica once, talk about a tight fit!

I did downplay what he did to the car, but I didn't mean to. I meant to say that the bodywork, interior, ect. were british. While the suspention, and drive train were Ford. To be more clear, he modified the british cars, rather than built them from the ground up using british styling.

Very true. Shelby took an existing car and modified it (extensively). That is why some people argue that the Shelby Cobras were actually kit cars as Shelby didn't really manufacture the whole car. Of course, others argue (rightfully so in my opinion) that the Cobra is not a true muscle car, but rather a sports car. Either way, they are very fast and worthy of the top spot.

well its not really my car but my dad has a 70 Hemi Challenger and 3 other project challengers check it out if the sight works www.the2fast2furious.com youll probably have to enlarge the photo

If you consider a stingray a muscle car then I would choose the vette. My other choice would have to be the greatest. The first generation camaro!

Well if American V8 power in a classic body style is considered a Muscle car then mine qualifies :confused:

350Hp of Ford small block power

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/gilesij/Volvord/volv8_b.jpg

Should I mention it is in a Volvo (remember that Ford owns Volvo)

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/gilesij/Volvord/740b.jpg

Classic car is defined by an individuals opinion.. Really anything that is different from what you see in modern days cars. Anything that got a lot of hype or is loved by a group of people for its difference is considered classic, an engine doesn't neccessarily make it a classic car. Muscle cars are 50's, 60's , and early 70's cars....The engine a car has in it doesn't make it a muscle car.

I`m proud to own a 1966 ford galaxie 500 fast back. 390 bored 40 over. c6 trans. 9 inch rear. may not have been designed to be a muscle car but a lot of improvements have made her a fine machine. click on the profile to see the car my wife calls the other woman.

Well my baby is my 67 chevelle malibu SS...427 bbc bored 30 over...lotsa funta drive! MY drive to from and around car is a 74 camaro...402 sbc also lotsa funts drice but not neerly the same! Both are still works in progress i really wanna replace the autos with 5 speeds and put some custom body work and the camaro! But im only 17 so i guess i got all the time in the world to do that!

1973 PLYMOUTH ROAD RUNNER / GTX 440hp 727auto 3:91 sure grip .
1 of 117 made .

Well if American V8 power in a classic body style is considered a Muscle car then mine qualifies :confused:

350Hp of Ford small block power

Should I mention it is in a Volvo (remember that Ford owns Volvo)



I remember reading years ago about company that did a Ford 302 V8 engine swap into a 7 series Volvo back in the late 80's. Was yours a professional swap, or did you do it yourself?

1973 PLYMOUTH ROAD RUNNER / GTX 440hp 727auto 3:91 sure grip .
1 of 117 made .

Now that's rare.

I remember reading years ago about company that did a Ford 302 V8 engine swap into a 7 series Volvo back in the late 80's. Was yours a professional swap, or did you do it yourself?

That is an interesting question. I did a lot of research on the conversion and spoke several times with Ross Converse at a company called Converse Engineering which perform these conversions, they also sell a conversion kit for the 700 series Volvo. In an effort to save some time and have access to their technical support I did order their kit. I can tell you I was not impressed with either the quality of the components contained in the kit, or with the customer and technical support after the sale. Although this company sells a conversion kit and does this conversion I would definitely NOT call them PROFESSIONAL.

I am a journeyman master mechanic, after waving more that $1000 good-bye for the "so called" conversion kit, I proceeded in fabricating all the components needed myself. I can assure you that even though my conversion was done "myself" the final result is far better and of higher quality than the "professional" swap.

I would be happy to provide more detail to anyone interested.

That is an interesting question. I did a lot of research on the conversion and spoke several times with Ross Converse at a company called Converse Engineering which perform these conversions, they also sell a conversion kit for the 700 series Volvo. In an effort to save some time and have access to their technical support I did order their kit. I can tell you I was not impressed with either the quality of the components contained in the kit, or with the customer and technical support after the sale. Although this company sells a conversion kit and does this conversion I would definitely NOT call them PROFESSIONAL.

I am a journeyman master mechanic, after waving more that $1000 good-bye for the "so called" conversion kit, I proceeded in fabricating all the components needed myself. I can assure you that even though my conversion was done "myself" the final result is far better and of higher quality than the "professional" swap.

I would be happy to provide more detail to anyone interested.

That has to be the same company. The name sounds familiar. It caught my attention because at the time, I had a 1989 Volvo 740 GLE with the 4 cylinder 16 valve engine. A mere 153 bhp in a RWD heavy car made for some seriously slow acceleration. Of course, I didn't end up doing it - it seemed way too complicated. From your remarks, it seems like it was a good decision. Good work on your own conversion!

1973 Cadillac Eldorado. I know its not a muscle car but it had a 8.2lt 500ci monster V8 stock and I've turned it into a 8.4lt 512ci wild beast of a engine. this thing realy pulls along nice. ive been looking for the stock 0to60 and quarter mile times but know luck. Do you guys know of a site that might list them? Thanks. Oh yeah I must say it realy feels awsome when I beat those import cars and they ask if I have NOS. I find it funny.
Anyway Thanks for your help.

'57 Corvette 283 Fuelie with a 4-speed.

I have a 71 Buick Riviera with a Fuel injected 455!

Man I'm all jealous...
Right now I own a 1983 Holden Ute (like a el camino) with a crap 3 spend and a straight six.

Did own a 92 Firechicken
1956 GMC pick up
1969 Charger RT (love that 440 big block)
86 Stang
87 Fiero with a 327 in it.
Thats all I had before getting here in Oz...shoulda shipped them over here.

Holy Crap I forgot my what was my 2nd pride and joy (after my 56 GMC) was my 75 'vette. Had a 375Hp 350 was a awesome daily driver and eye candy galore. :evillol:

Mine is a 72 SS Chevelle. It doesn't have the original 454. I replaced it with another 454 after I blew up the original. It just went through a rebuild so it's pushing around 500 h.p. at the moment. I will have to get it dyno tested to be sure of the exact #'s though.

1967 Galaxie 500, 390 w/less than 500 on the rebuild.
750 cfm BG carb
edelbrock performer 390 intake
double roller timming chain
512/538 lift cam 214/224 @ .050 AD 292/302
milodon pump & 7 qt pan
heddman hussler headers w/ 2 1/2 x-pipes
40 series 3 chamber flows w/turn down tips
the rear gears are the next project.......haven't decided what to put it yet tho.

'71 AMC 4-door sst Hornet

was all original untill mods, but we still have the stuff.

mods include:
home made AMC traction bars (work exelent)
rear end with 444 gears (good for 1/8 mile)
shortened original driveshaft (still has original overspray)
original 6 transmision (oil was still transparent red when we pulled out the engine, and the car did not apear to have been drained before)
AMC 360 (intake, carb, valve covers, pistons, etc all the usual inexpencive mods, and ported and pollished)
Hooker headers
3" Purple hornie header mufflers
wipers and moter removed
american racing wheels (they don't look right though..... they are only 15", i like the 17" fondmetal 6 spoke wheels that we have more)

Other than that, it looks good, original paint is oxidizing in some places, both passanger doors and the back driver's side have been crunched. Oh and the driver's side tail light has been replaced with a tail light from a hornet x. both mirrors have been replaced with cheap consumor crap.

But, the car is clean and except for the bottom corner of the driver's door, rust free.

Did i menion that the car has 450 hp?
450 hp?:eek7::naughty:

It's a sleeper! (...except for the sound!):iceslolan

"BEFORE YOU DRIVE, CUSTOMIZE YOUR RIDE" Initial-D

1987 Buick Turbo Regal
Ported heads and intake, upgraded turbo, injectors and intercooler. It has headers and 3 inch downpipe.
11.04 @ 119.75 mph, 122 mph best. The A/C, power steering, brakes windows and locks are still working. The A/C was turned off for the run, tho.:smile:

Jeff

I did downplay what he did to the car, but I didn't mean to. I meant to say that the bodywork, interior, ect. were british. While the suspention, and drive train were Ford. To be more clear, he modified the british cars, rather than built them from the ground up using british styling.

There were actually TWO Cobras. The first is the 260/289. These were the original Cobras. Shelby took a rolling chassis and dropped in the 260 (at first) then the 289 engines and four speed top loaders. The drive shaft (all one foot of it) was also added. These cars had transverse leaf springs in the rear. Basically it was an AC Ace with a Ford drive train and a modified snout.

The 427 Cobra was a different beast entirely. It had wishbone suspension all around. The body was still hand beaten aluminum from AC cars, but most of the running gear and chassis was designed by Ford. They felt the 427 would twist the frame like a pretzel.

I remember an early article on the car from Motor Trend. It seems that the AC Ace was designed in 1953 and ran the AC four cylinder engine. It then used the Bristol engine and was called the AC Bristol. Bristol dropped the engine leaving AC out in the cold. Ford had a new engine, but no exciting car to put it in (remember this was 1962).

Shelby contacted both Ford and AC and convinced both of them that each one was interested in getting together. Eventually Shelby got an AC Ace and a Ford 260, put them together in Moon's garage and BINGO! Sorry to ramble, but I've loved these cars since I was 5. "Hey Little Cobra!"
Jeff

1968 Plymouth Road Runner
The car's been built to handle and eventually I hope to run in the Silver State Classic. I've driven the car 125mph at 3100rpm with plenty of pedal left.
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL188/1012410/1888358/36048605.jpg
400 big block, bored and stroked to 451ci. It's hooked to an aluminum case Keisler 5-speed OD manual trans.
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL188/1012410/1888358/34690413.jpg
Dyno sheet
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL188/1012410/1888358/24602862.jpg
Custom gauge panel
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL188/1012410/1888358/24666526.jpg
Here's the '75 Dodge D350 dually, crewcab, 4x4, pickup truck I bought to haul the Road Runner. It's powered by a fuel injected 440 and has been reskinned with '93 sheetmetal. It's strong enought to pull down a house.
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL188/1012410/3594803/44156437.jpg
http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL188/1012410/3594803/44156425.jpg

1968 Plymouth Road Runner
The car's been built to handle and eventually I hope to run in the Silver State Classic. I've driven the car 125mph at 3100rpm with plenty of pedal left.

How's the aerodynamics? That may become a limiting factor. I see the front spoiler, but front end lift may also be a problem at speed. Buick had to keep the 124 mph limiter on the GNX because the front end lifted at 130. On a related note, there's a Canadian company making Superbird noses:evillol:. I don't know how well they'd work on a 1968 since the Superbirds were based on 1970's.
Jeff

How's the aerodynamics? That may become a limiting factor.
Like a brick. I've got plenty of hp left to propel the car to faster speeds, but yes, at some point aero will become a factor.

I see the front spoiler, but front end lift may also be a problem at speed. Buick had to keep the 124 mph limiter on the GNX because the front end lifted at 130.

The chin spoiler helps to keep the nose planted.(Having the heavy big block over the front wheels doesn't hurt either) Another benefit of the spoiler is it promotes air flow through the radiator and if anything the car runs too cool.(180 degrees at idle, 165 degrees moving)

On a related note, there's a Canadian company making Superbird noses:evillol:. I don't know how well they'd work on a 1968 since the Superbirds were based on 1970's.
Jeff

There are a couple of companies that build pieces(wings, noses, rear window plugs) to convert RR's to Superbirds, but I'm not looking to go that far. I may go to a Superbird-style rear window plug. This replaces the stock rear glass and replaces it with a flat and flush piece of lexan. The stock glass promotes wind turbulence and creates drag.

These cars are capable of very respectable speeds. John Schneider, of Dukes of Hazzard fame, runs a '69 Charger in the 130mph class at the Silver State Classic.

Like a brick. I've got plenty of hp left to propel the car to faster speeds, but yes, at some point aero will become a factor.

These cars are capable of very respectable speeds. John Schneider, of Dukes of Hazzard fame, runs a '69 Charger in the 130mph class at the Silver State Classic.
Cool, good luck. I hope you do well, if not win. 130 mph should be OK before the aero takes over. Oh, and say, "hi" to Daisy (Duke) if you see her.:rofl:
Jeff

I have a 75 nova with a 350/350 trans the motor was bored out to make it a 357, i bought it from a friend for $850 with no rust on it. what luck..

How's the aerodynamics? That may become a limiting factor. I see the front spoiler, but front end lift may also be a problem at speed. Buick had to keep the 124 mph limiter on the GNX because the front end lifted at 130.

The more I think about the GNs (especially the GNX), the more I think it's a plain shame that Buick didn't have a F-body car...


On a related note, there's a Canadian company making Superbird noses:evillol:. I don't know how well they'd work on a 1968 since the Superbirds were based on 1970's.
Jeff

'68-'70 was the same basic platform. HOWEVER, the Superbird used a Dodge Charger front clip. ChryCorp initially tried to put an aero nose on a RoadRunner, but it didn't work. After a few more ideas that didn't work, they used a Charger front clip with the aero nose and that worked.

P.S.: My car is a Japanese appliance called a Daihatsu Applause. It does what it needs to do. "Import vs. domestic" is not an issue to me because Jamaica doesn't have a domestic car industry. There aren't many American cars here, mainly because Jamaicans drive on the left side of the road.

I have a 1972 Cutlass Supreme 455 4 speed. I just dropped the engine and trans in today. I finally have the 4 speed stick sticking out of the floor. Hopefully I will have it running again in a couple weeks. Hopefully I will have no more problems. Finding 4 speed stuff for an Olds is rough. I did a couple Fox body Mustang 5 speed swaps. I would just go find a total, have everything I needed, and then part the cars out. It ended up costing nothing or real close to it. No such luck with a Cutlass though. I figure this car is worth about a cool 1/3rd of what I have into it. It will still be worth it when I'm powershifting my way down the track though.

HOWEVER, the Superbird used a Dodge Charger front clip. ChryCorp initially tried to put an aero nose on a RoadRunner, but it didn't work. After a few more ideas that didn't work, they used a Charger front clip with the aero nose and that worked.


Um...No. Superbird's were made from 1970 Plymouth 2-door B-bodies. The fenders are from a '70 Dodge Coronet. The hood is a '70 Road Runner with an extra piece attached to the forward end of it.

Sorry about that misinformation. However, I do recall seeing a TV programme that said the Superbird had a Coronet front clip. I mixed it up and said Charger by mistake.