Some fool in a new civic pulls up to me while im driving peacefully... he downshifts so I do as well I pull on his ass pretty hard... dont ask me but maybe its the torque. Then we hit a stop sign I didn't want any excuses so I let him take off first, and I still beat his ass by like 2 cars... I dont know if its my car or he just sucks as a driver... I checked the weight on both cars They are damn near Identical both around 2700 lbs the Civic si has 160hp and 137tq, my car is stock right now 155hp 160tq I figured those cars would be alot faster than that... :pimp:

It's always fun to try out Civics huh? :smile:

I'm going to make an in-car camera mount for my car, that attaches to the headrest poles, so the camera sits out between the two seats, then I'm going to have to cruise around filming some fun and games :cool:

At the moment, my 200SX is making roughly 205bhp, and I'm not sure about the torque, but it should be pretty decent. After I re-chip it and add in a new air intake system, I should be close to 240/250bhp. That makes for some traffic light fun :biggrin:

Originally posted by christofurr
It's always fun to try out Civics huh? :smile:

I'm going to make an in-car camera mount for my car, that attaches to the headrest poles, so the camera sits out between the two seats, then I'm going to have to cruise around filming some fun and games :cool:

At the moment, my 200SX is making roughly 205bhp, and I'm not sure about the torque, but it should be pretty decent. After I re-chip it and add in a new air intake system, I should be close to 240/250bhp. That makes for some traffic light fun :biggrin: You have s14... I thought they made 220bhp? You talkin RWHP? either way I can't wait till I get my Engine swap :) During my lunch brake I am driving home, and a damn S2000 decides to make a FOOL of me by toying with me :( I didn't enjoy it at all, from the looks of his car he was lightly modded but faster than me nevertheless, he had aftermarket exhaust some nice Volk Te37 rims. Thats all I saw. If I had my engine he would be nothing to me. :angryfire

good idea on mounting position chris,

puts some of the car in perspective and such....



I seen a civic si do 15.1 in 1/4 mile..... looked stock but don't know for sure.

the Si's only comes hatchback. and only hatchbacks comes in Si trim. so there is no mistake that the car hes talkin about is an Si. and those things are pathetic. they do 0-60 in like 8 seconds. our stock 240's can handle them. but barely. a 240 with bolt ons can beat it by a decent amount of distance. heh its funny that you mention a S2000. my boys got one and its a toss up between me and him. sometimes i win. sometimes he wins.

yeah but if you have some money you could make a s2000 into one hell of a good cruising car with a turbo. Turbocharging that honda makes a world of difference I bet... and its fairly small and agile.

I wonder if the S15 ever came over to the states, what did those cost new like 20-25k?.. what the automakers would be doing now.... For the price that car would be a hell of a lot nicer then say a Camaro, Mustang, Neon Turbo, anything along those lines, makes you wonder what some of those head Nissan guys think.... I know the Sr20DET isn't smog legal currently, but how hard would it be for Nissan to make it so from the factory... couple days work tops? lol...

If the import companies could create a lighter rwd car that is cheaper to us currently, they would bring in tons of sales I think. 240's won't be around forever, only so many were made. So many get trashed too hehe.

i'm sure you won becuase of your torque and better weight transfer (rwd vs fwd). the new civic Si is ugly as hell too.

Originally posted by ThaLegend
Some fool in a new civic pulls up to me while im driving peacefully... he downshifts so I do as well I pull on his ass pretty hard... dont ask me but maybe its the torque. Then we hit a stop sign I didn't want any excuses so I let him take off first, and I still beat his ass by like 2 cars... I dont know if its my car or he just sucks as a driver... I checked the weight on both cars They are damn near Identical both around 2700 lbs the Civic si has 160hp and 137tq, my car is stock right now 155hp 160tq I figured those cars would be alot faster than that... :pimp: :lol: CIVIC IS A :loser:

Originally posted by DIRTYDAWGS
:lol: CIVIC IS A :loser:

you are a :loser: Hahah Honda people are complaining about you and laughing about the ownage.


Hey, this Si you beat, was it a turbo Spoon??

nice kill. :bigthumb:

240sx ownez you. heheeh

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Civics, Integras, CRX, and pretty much any front-wheel drives are a waste of time.

Originally posted by SR20DETpower
yeah but if you have some money you could make a s2000 into one hell of a good cruising car with a turbo. Turbocharging that honda makes a world of difference I bet... and its fairly small and agile.



the s2000 really doesnt respond well to turbocharging or supercharging. the engine is so maxed out as it is. if you get the comptech S/C system it costs about 3500-4000 and it only k nocks off about a half second. if you turbo it, you can expect same results. however, if you put in lower compression pistons and internals, its a different story. but after all the money you dumped in there, you could have gotten a 240 :bigthumb: :iceslolan

a buddy of mine has an s2k with exhaust and cams, and he still runs a 13.9.

There only so much you can do with a NA strung up 2.0L four

Originally posted by youngdrifter_x
Civics, Integras, CRX, and pretty much any front-wheel drives are a waste of time.

Would that include the Nissan Blue Bird? Also when you say they are a waste of time what are you referring to? What type of racing or driving? Just because his car beat a new Si does not make the car crap. I am sure he would not be able to touch a b20 in a crx and it would still be cheaper then your car. To make things even better Turbo it because of the B20 running a lower compression of 8.8:1 would make a nice run. Now if you are talking about drifting then you have the upper hand. I own a civic and am currently searching for a good s13 but I love all cars and have repect for the Honda as they do awesome head work from the factory.

Wouldn't be cheaper than my car...That's for sure.

My car costs me less than I see most B20 blocks go for...

Originally posted by ghostchild316
Wouldn't be cheaper than my car...That's for sure.

My car costs me less than I see most B20 blocks go for...

The whole B20 motor cost 750 bucks.

My car was $600

Originally posted by christofurr
It's always fun to try out Civics huh? :smile:

I'm going to make an in-car camera mount for my car, that attaches to the headrest poles, so the camera sits out between the two seats, then I'm going to have to cruise around filming some fun and games :cool:

At the moment, my 200SX is making roughly 205bhp, and I'm not sure about the torque, but it should be pretty decent. After I re-chip it and add in a new air intake system, I should be close to 240/250bhp. That makes for some traffic light fun :biggrin:

You're car if is a turbo car should be making 220hp. If it is an N/A you are asking a lot to get 250hp even at the engine.

You can't "chip" an S14. Give Torque Performance a ring if you don't believe me, as he tunes them all the time.

Originally posted by ImportNut1212


the s2000 really doesnt respond well to turbocharging or supercharging. the engine is so maxed out as it is. if you get the comptech S/C system it costs about 3500-4000 and it only k nocks off about a half second. if you turbo it, you can expect same results. however, if you put in lower compression pistons and internals, its a different story. but after all the money you dumped in there, you could have gotten a 240 :bigthumb: :iceslolan

a buddy of mine has an s2k with exhaust and cams, and he still runs a 13.9.

how so? the S2000's along with any other dohc vtec has an extremely good flowing head. they will flow a amazing amount of air with a bolt on turbo. the problem with tuning a S2000 is the natural characteristics of the engine. that engine is a all or nothing engine. you can bolt up a smaller turbo to help low end, so you can help bring that pathetic torque number up and bring the torque closer to the left. however you the turbo will stop making boost effectively on the highend esp since hte car can rev to 9 grand. so your not really gaining any real power up high. or you can go the over way. you can bolt a larger turbo on and you can kill your low end even more but you will crazy highend. so thats why i think a supercharger is the best way to go. its the best middle ground in my opinion. it gives good low end torque and it gets a good amount more power up high. its not a redicious gain like you would have from a turbo. but thats because thats hte charactertics of the super charger itself. not from the motor. in my opinion, its the peaky characteristics of the motor that kills it.

just a note, but here in Canadia:

Civic SI is the top of the model coupe.
Civic SIR is the hatch.

i'd actually prefer Honda to have the Type R hatch like the RSX(Integra) Type S.

Originally posted by Frostbyte


Would that include the Nissan Blue Bird? Also when you say they are a waste of time what are you referring to? What type of racing or driving? Just because his car beat a new Si does not make the car crap. I am sure he would not be able to touch a b20 in a crx and it would still be cheaper then your car. To make things even better Turbo it because of the B20 running a lower compression of 8.8:1 would make a nice run. Now if you are talking about drifting then you have the upper hand. I own a civic and am currently searching for a good s13 but I love all cars and have repect for the Honda as they do awesome head work from the factory.

FWD=Torque steer in high-power apps.

That includes FWD Nissan Bluebirds, AWD SR20DET versions excluded :D

Si IS crap though. Its a shortened mini-mini van with a 160hp engine. Im sorry, but when SCC, and Honda-dominated mag ranks it LAST, you know somethings wrong. Go to HAN or Vtec.net, and you'll see many dieahrd owners bitching about the car. My dad worked for Honda and even his friends still with them admit it cant compete with the SER, GTi, etc.

Its the begining of the 04 year and 02s are still on the lot.

B20 turbo is good, but its probably more brittle than the SR20. Why? Cause SR20 is designed to be turbo from the factory. im sorry, but any engine thats Factory F/I is probably gonna be better than an NA with a turbo kit (KAs excepted cuz those things are tanks)

Originally posted by christofurr
It's always fun to try out Civics huh? :smile:

I'm going to make an in-car camera mount for my car, that attaches to the headrest poles, so the camera sits out between the two seats, then I'm going to have to cruise around filming some fun and games :cool:

At the moment, my 200SX is making roughly 205bhp, and I'm not sure about the torque, but it should be pretty decent. After I re-chip it and add in a new air intake system, I should be close to 240/250bhp. That makes for some traffic light fun :biggrin:

intake and ecu gives 35-45 horspeower ? :eek7:

for a turbo yeah. becuase with a chip on a turbo car, what it does is add more fuel and up the boost. thats an easy 30 hp right there. now add an intake thats atleast 35hp. thats crank hp that is. lolz

NICE KILL on behalf of the Nissan Family.
Torque wins races, not HP.