So is it really worth it to shell out $400 for the Valentine 1? WHat about $300 for the Escort? Or is there another radar/laser detector with better bang for the buck. Unfortunately for my checkbook, I think I'm already sold on the V1.

ummm.. not to sound rude but..

WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH RACING???

not the best place for this thread buddy..

:nono:

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What doesn't it have to do with racing?:lol:

Because I'd like to race guilt-free, without always checking my mirrors for coppers.

i dont get it what is wrong with your current car that you have to worrie about the "coppers" and how will gettin a escort or a valentine 1 solve this problem??

:eek7: :sly: :eek7:

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I don't want to sound condescending, there must be some misunderstanding. These are radar detectors. They alert me when there are cops around checking for speeders. If I have a good one, then I can street race to my hearts content without having to worry about getting pulled over for speeding. Radar detecters = no cops = more street racing. But mny question is about what type of detectors most people use. I am directing this to the street racers since they tend to be more experienced with cop avoidance paraphanelia. Can anyone answer my question?

o0o hahaha
im sorrie itz radar dectors
i taught u were talkin about a ford escort and another car..

:lol: :cwm27:

i heard alot about the escort as a good radar ut i dont realle noe..
hey sorrie for the miss understanding..

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Originally posted by buymeabmwm3
So is it really worth it to shell out $400 for the Valentine 1?
The only TRUE solution is to purchase the Valentine1, Bel 980, a Uniden digital scanner and check your mirrors for officers that prefer "pacing" to radar.

Originally posted by DMC12

The only TRUE solution is to purchase the Valentine1, Bel 980, a Uniden digital scanner and check your mirrors for officers that prefer "pacing" to radar.


plus have a direct link to a spy satellite, direct contact with NORAD, radar absorbing materials, angled body panels to scatter the signal......basically a few extreme primed body pannels should do that plus a huge aerodinamic antena on the back for the signals.........wait am I on to something???????:eek:



















well from what i hear the valentine 1 is the only really good radar detector......

I wouldn't trust them detectors so much as to being worry free about cops. Like DMC said, some like to pace.. while other times, they're not even paying attention untill you do something stupid right in front of them.


So the best bet is to have a sunroof(or a convertable) that will allow the robot controlled 50 cal to emerge so you can blast John Law away. hehehehe..




Oh yea.. are the Police's radar detectors effective when they're moving? i.e. freeway... when the cop is behind you and points the gun at you... is that how they do it?

Just because you have a radar detector doesn't mean you know when a cop is around. All it tells you is if a cop has their radar on. A cop could be driving behind you without his radar on, and see you racing someone, and bust you for racing, and your radar detector will never go off because he didn't have his radar on.

Neutrino, Ninja, you guys are hilarious! I think I have stumbled across my next list of mods. :ylsuper:

Originally posted by dbartoschek
Just because you have a radar detector doesn't mean you know when a cop is around. All it tells you is if a cop has their radar on. A cop could be driving behind you without his radar on, and see you racing someone, and bust you for racing, and your radar detector will never go off because he didn't have his radar on.

As far as I understand how those things work, its doesn't only detect the "radar" they use to detect high speeds, but instead it also detects the frequencies in which cops communicate with(I think its called K-band), and also another type.

Now.. my question is, if cops ever DO pull you over, and see one of those things in your car OR your car is parked on the side of road and cop comes up and see the detector.. Can they do anything about it?? Can you get booked for stuff like that? I mean its obvious the purpose of the thing, there's no excuse. I guess you can say its for decoration, but I'd doubt they'd buy that..

I saw a thing on the discovery channel about police radar. I was really surprised how inaccurate they can be. And depending on what type of radar equipment they are using they cant even be sure you were the one they clocked. This is because most of the radar they use acts like a net. It spreads out and covers a section of the road but it doesn't lock on to one car so if their are a few cars they cant be sure who was doing what. Also even if they are using the laser which they can lock on to who they choose the speed given is an estimate. The way the radar gun works is it gives three speeds one high one low and the estimated speed that's the one the cop sees. So if you are ever pulled over and the officer asks you if you know how fast you were going they are NOT trying to let you come clean. They want you to incriminate your self because then you have no hope of fighting the ticket in court.

Well, I consider myself an exper on this subject :biggrin:

I got the Escort 8500 and it's great. However, what some of these guys have been saying is true. If a cop decides to just cruise and not have his radar on, he could be right behind you and you would never know until he flashed his lights. However, I've noticed that most cops cruise with their radar on, so that's not that big of a problem. I've used the V1, and it falses a bit too much, goes crazy for anything. The Escort 8500 doesn't, and it definitely screams if there is a real cop around. These are the different type of radars

K band - Pretty narrow, so it gives a better reading (easy to detect)

X band - the oldest radar they have, most don't even use it anymore (pretty easy to catch)

KA band - the radar for lazy cops. It almost scans the entire area in front of them (it's easy as hell to catch too) most cops (in my area) use this cause they lazy :tongue:


Finally, there's laser. Laser is unrecognizable until it is actually SHOT at YOUR car. In other words, if you're speeding, and you get a laser reading on your detector, you're fucked. Cops never use this cause they have to move and stuff, and they don't like to do that.

POP radar - supposedly the newest radar out right now. Supposed to be VERY hard to detect, I don't know much about it. I KNOW my detector doesn't catch it and neither does the V1. However, it's still in experimental stages and is RARELY ever used.

I think I answered your questions. Just ask if you need help with anything else on this subject

I believe the police down in Newport Beach are using POP.

Here is the #1 A-hole company responsible for lining the pockets of pigs: http://www.mphindustries.com/products_home/radar_pop.html

Yes, the Police can radar you from the front of back when they are moving.

The problem with radar dectectors is that by the time they warn you it is too late. Usually the police will turn it on right at the last moment and trap your speed. There is nothing you could do.

Save your money and don't focus on street racing so much.

Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing all the money and devotion in this forum invested in firearms and protection of our right to bear them. Over in Completely Off Topic we're being screwed over one day at a time.

Originally posted by DMC12
Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing all the money and devotion in this forum invested in firearms and protection of our right to bear them. Over in Completely Off Topic we're being screwed over one day at a time.


Yea.. the right is practically useless... here in CA at least.

You could aways get a radar Blocker. They would stop even the new pop radar but the good ones are pricy. One would want one that both blocks and warns.

Originally posted by RACER D12
You could aways get a radar Blocker. They would stop even the new pop radar but the good ones are pricy. One would want one that both blocks and warns.

Those don't work.

A real radar jammer would take up your entire trunk and cost a lot more than your car. I have seen tests and every one of them is a farse.

I know that the Valentine is good and SCC just tested the Escort and said it was very good as well. The problem is that the police usually wait to activate the radar right as you pass them. There still are radar traps that they will protect you from though. Also, the laser feature is useless since they would have to hit the detector direct on for it to go off.

I got a this module they sell it at wal-mart it called a continum transfunctioner with built in corrosponding super radar blockage II, it also has a direct spy sattalite linkage as was mentioned earlier by some one this forum. this radar has it all you'll make the cops go :eek7: , and you can fly by doing this :nono: get the idea :naughty:

the higher, the radar frequency (Ka), the shorter the effective range and the more the radar field is affected by dust, snow, rain, etc. Higher frequiecies are harder to detect though. A detector can help if the cop has his radar on, or if they are ahead or behind you and check another car, you can get warnings for a couple kilometres under the right conditions. Also, radar behind can be reflected off bridges, signs or other traffic and give a warning. Laser must be stationary (on a tripod) and can't be fired through glass. you dont have much hope, unless a car ahead of you gets zapped, where you'll have a couple hundred metres of warning. so all in all they can be useful, I loved my Bel until some asswipe stole it cuz I forgot to take it out one night. Saved me about a half dozen times. The only radar jammer I know that worked reasonably was made by Rocky Mountain Radar in Co., but they got dished a cease and desist order, to be legal, a jammer has to be useless. laser jammers work much better, radar bands are gov't regulated, laser wavlenghts arent, so jammer manufacturers have more leeway, Car & Driver did an article using a popular laser jammer and reported it worked quite well.

The continuum transfunctioner is a very mysterious device. and its mystery is exceeded only by its power.