New 2004 SC'd Monte SS

ChevyXtremeFX · 06-08-2003, 11:26 AM

What do you all think about this new SS? Worth getting one? Or forget about it?

DomesticRicer · 06-08-2003, 04:49 PM

Oh yes, specially with pully upgrades and better breathing for the engine. Should be a pretty peppy car!

ChevyXtremeFX · 06-09-2003, 12:04 AM

I've never driven a supercharged car before. So obviously, I'm not too familiar with them. What's it gonna be like? When does the supercharger kick in? Does it depend on how much throttle you're giving it or is the power always there at easy disposal? Is it gonna be like driving a V-8? THOSE, I've driven pleny of

but never a car with a supercharger. Thanx.

tman · 06-09-2003, 01:43 AM

If youve driven in a turbocharged car, you might have experienced "turbo lag," which is the time it takes the TC to "spool up."

Superchargers are driven from the accessory drive belt, and are always spinning, therefore no lag. However, superchargers generally dont have the power in top end speed that turbos do. SC are better than turbos in my opinion, no backpressure, and no lag. Also, you are pushed into your seat a bit harder under WOT.

Yes, I am looking into a SC SS actually.

ChevyXtremeFX · 06-09-2003, 11:48 AM

OK, cool. So this SC is always spinning with the belt so when you punch it, the SC blows more air into the engine than it would get without the SC? Is that right? Hence, more power?

Hmm, this sounds like a excellent car to replace my Blazer Xtreme with. I love my Blazer alot, but I could use "more power" hehe. Sounds like Tim Allen.

Also, one thing I hate about the Blazer, or any GM truck for that matter, they are always limited to 97 MPH. I've seen a 120 mile speedo on the "regular" Monte SS, I hope they don't still limit it to 97 MPH.....especially with a SC. Also, I like that the Monte has ALL the analog gagues you need (speedo, tach, gas, oil, temp, volts.) you don't see that too often in cars except for the Mustang. That's the MAIN reason I've stuck with trucks and SUV's. I hate when all you get besides the speedo is a gas and temp gague, how cheap is that? Bunch of dummy lights. Gay. And it seems this SC'd Monte even adds a boost gague, too.

Now what about the FWD? I don't care if it's FWD, RWD or AWD. It's just that the longest I've drivin a FWD at one time is like 6 months. I've heard the term "torque steer" thrown around a little and that it's a bad thing. Can you explain this a little, please? Am I gonna see a big difference when I go from a RWD Blazer to a FWD car?

Sorry for the stupidity, I'm just used to RWD cars, trucks and SUV's. That's all I've drivin for years....

tman · 06-09-2003, 01:35 PM

Alright, your right on with the concept of superchargers!

As for torque steer, that it when under heavy acceleration in a FWD car, it is difficult to turn because the front wheels have so much power going to them, that they don't want to turn. This only effects the car at high speeds and heavy acceleration.

Also, I'm sure that the speedo will go past 100. My cousins Regal GS (supercharged also) has a fair amount of torque steer, and the speedo says 120, but I've been with him when he has gone to about 107 I think. That is where the governer is, I believe.

damon94 · 06-26-2003, 02:02 PM

turbo's are much more efficiant and can generate alot more power than a supercharger. a super charger is run off the aux drive belt and put a load on the engine. usually anywhere from 5-15 % this is bad. sure you have instant boost, but the top end isnt there. if your shooting for a 1/4 mile car a supercharger is for you. but if you want to race on the highway and go into that 120 range a turbo is what you need. Turbo's are exhaust driven. Which means exhaust fumes come out of the exhaust manafold and are directed into the turbo and spool the turbo up. Spooling the turbo causes the compressor wheel in the turbo to compress air and shoot it into your intake manifold(or intercooler then to the intake mani) providing boost. Turbos do have a small window of lag but with the right trim and wheels you can get one that you wouldnt even notice. Since turbos are run off of exhaust. They are taking the wasted energy of the exhaust and using it to produce boost. Thus turning a negative into a positive. and personally there is nothing like the feeling of a turbo spooling up and then dumping the boost to create power that will throm you in your seat at 80 miles an hour. lol its cool. Well everyone has thier own opinion about turbos and superchargers. you will just have to decide for yourself. i have a 2000 monte and am going to in the neer future turbo it. thanks for your time. damon

tman · 06-26-2003, 02:11 PM

Very True Damon, and good points all around.

However, It's not exactly legal to go 120mph, so it is a bit foolish IMO, unless you plan to circuit race your car. A SC is All you need for basic everyday driving.

Also, you act as if the turbo has no side effects. You say that the SC puts a strain on the engine, well, the turbo does the same thing. The length of exhaust manifold going to the turbo gets extremely hot, and builds pressure until it can make the torbo spool up. That is called backpressure, very bad. TC and SC both have advantages, and disadvantages, and it is a matter of opinion as to which you like.

I'll stick with a Supercharger, myself.

damon94 · 06-26-2003, 02:51 PM

ok that is true, and I guess a super charger is for more low speed accel than anything else. But ill take my turbo and go home. Thanks. Peace and fast cars for everyone

DomesticRicer · 06-28-2003, 02:28 PM

Me 2 Damon, I'm looking into turbo for my 01 SS. Maybe we could talk? Two of us talking to the same company would be better. I've already chatted with ItsTurbo about one.
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GTX Playa · 07-11-2003, 01:49 PM

Yeah, GM finally gave Chevy access to the SC 3800 Series II V6.
Meanwhile they were developing the Series III with 20 more HP that debuted in the 04 GTP.

The lack of a SC V6 car in the Chevy line-up in 2001 was the SINGLE reason I bought a Grand Prix GTP.

Definitely get the SC SS, you won't be sorry.

Chevy2xtreme · 08-21-2003, 04:36 AM

Agreed sounds like a fun car to drive

voyager · 08-22-2003, 02:13 AM

it's about time GM gave the monte carlo a supercharger! the SS without it is just.. sick. not worthy of it's badging.

anyone who wants to know all about super chargers and turbos and turbochargers ( best of both worlds ) should check out howstuffworks.com

no car is worth buying new. they all lose 1,000's of $$ in value as soon as you leave the parking lot. wait until 2005 to buy a 2004 SS wit 5,000mi on it for $4,000 less.

EMAXX · 08-22-2003, 11:04 AM

I think that it will be a sweet car. It'll be a fun car to drive too. It has awesome styling, and some more power now.

guest36 · 08-29-2003, 01:51 AM

is it possible to put a turbo and supercharger under one hood

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