Does ne1 have a link of happen to know what brand of components are used on the M-F1 street car?

Components for what?? Your question is quite vague... :confused:

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ER

If I looked in and around an F1 what brand of seatbelts, seats, air intake, exhausted, etc. would I see.

When McLaren Cars developed the car, nearly everything was created as new. You won't find a "Sparco" race seat, a "Schroth" racing harness, a "K&N" air filter, or a "Borla" exhaust on the car - everything was developed from scratch to McLaren's own specifications. They probably used similar companies to develop certain components, but you won't find their names on those pieces.

The Brembo brakes are one of the few parts of the car you will find a name like that on. The engine and attached components, came from BMW Motorsport. The transmission was developed with a US company named Weismann. There were probably other vendors involved in the process, but McLaren used very few off-the-shelf parts anywhere in the car.

Hope that answers your question.

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ER

I know that all the components were custom. I was just more interested in who the technical partners were rather then what was purchased. I am trying to compile a list as a go by for a recent car I purchased. With money no object, I figured if the company was good enough for Mclaren then it should be good enough for me. Besides I hate Sparco's crappy seats anyway... ;)

Thats a stupid way of thinking.
I personally favor Recaro, but Sparco is in no way Shitty, and I seriously doubt you can figure brembos into your budget unless they come stock on your car.

Don't just pick it because McLaren chose the company. Read up a little, and find the best for you, or what you can afford.

What was in McLaren's best interests is not necessarily in your best insterest.

Many times, their OEMs were simply one of many suppliers of equivalent products; they weren't the absolute best supplier. And in some cases they used really cheap materials from mass manufacturers. For instance, the switchgear in the cars is positively tacky (I think it's from VW).

McLaren worked with myriad sets of constraints that were certainly different from what yours will be. And technology has moved forward a long way since the inception of the McLaren.

You'd be better off defining some performance and design goals and then seeing which OEMs best fit your needs for minimum order quantity, quality, performance, proximity to you, customer service, and of course, price.

Do you read Racecar Engineering? It's an expensive publication, but there's a wealth of resources in there.

Mclaren OEM issue was just a starting ground. And I do re RE alot. I was only curious as to whom thier OEM's were that's all. Just because they use Penski 8700 series Coil-Overs doesn't mean I'm going to run out and pay $3K a pair for them. I just thought I would be nice to compile a list of OEMs Mclaren used since it doesn't seem to exist anywhere on the web. If there list of OEM's matched My list of OEM's then great, and if not then that's fine too.

here is my list so far:

GS battery

Dampers:
Penske Coil-Over Damper

Tyres:
Eagle F1 Supercar

Wheels:
Enkei (Mag)

Brake:
Brembo Brakes Gran Turismo Brake System 14"

Engine:
BMW Motorsports

Transmission:
Weismann

I'm Still looking for Interor OEM's

ofcourse there's the sound system
kenwood made the sound system but that was all custom work, so i don't think you can put that into your car.

rgrds

maarten

I wonder where the gold foil lining the engine is from?

BTW, that list of parts is awful short, exactly how much of the Mclaren was manufactured in house?

Nardi steering wheel, I think.

Connolly leather (ultra-thin for light weight).

The switchgear is from BMW I think. At least they look very similar.

TAG Electronics.

One other note about their suppliers. To tie in the project with the Formula One team they used a few Formula One suppliers/sponsors as well. TAG and Shell to name 2.

Hey,
Sorry to drag up an old topic but I just realised where the front indicators for the Mclaren are from!

They are from a post '88 Lotus Esprit! when you think about it this seems logical since Peter Stevens designed both the updated Esprit and the Mclaren F1. The wing mirrors are also the same on both cars too I wonder if any other parts for the Mclaren are also from the Esprit?

The wing mirrors (originally from a Citreon CX I believe) also appeard on many sports cars, updated Esprit, Mclaren F1, Jaguar XJR-15, Jaguar XJ220, and some TVR's I think (S3's if I remember correctly)

anyway, I hope this helps.
'Segg

I think they are from the VW Corrado. They are definitely not the Esprit mirrors - those have "ribs" on them and are more angular. The McLaren (and TVR Cerbera) mirrors are more rounded.

You are right in that the TVR S3 uses the same mirrors as the Esprit, which originally came from the Citroen CX.

Rgds,
Faisal.

Originally posted by tvrfreak
I think they are from the VW Corrado. They are definitely not the Esprit mirrors - those have "ribs" on them and are more angular. The McLaren (and TVR Cerbera) mirrors are more rounded.

You are right in that the TVR S3 uses the same mirrors as the Esprit, which originally came from the Citroen CX.
Are you sure? on This (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t108356.html) thread you posted...

Originally posted by tvrfreak
According to Driving Ambition, Peter Stevens liked these mirrors and originally used them on the Esprit Mk2 and Jaguar XJR-15. They are originally from the Citroen CX.

Later on, other people also put them on the XJ220 and a couple of other cars. Maybe we are both right and the CX mirrors were also used on the Corrado?

I know on "G" shaped Esprits (Esprits designed by Giugiaro) they had different shaped mirrors, but when Peter Stevens updated the car in 88 one of the things to change was the mirrors and they are said to be from a Citroen CX, they look the same to me :confused:

'Segg

We are both partially right.

The CX mirrors and Corrado mirrors are different.

In some pictures, I do see the CX/Esprit mirrors on the McLarens. These are the mirrors with the "ribs." They are used on the TVR S3 as well.

But all the McLarens I have seen recently seen in person had the Corrado-style mirrors. These are more rounded, and can have a color-coded or black plastic "skirt" (the piece surrounding the actual mirror portion). This mirror is used on the TVR Cerbera as well.

Doug Nye mentions only the Citroen CX/Esprit type of mirrors in the book, IIRC. So he's only partially right as well.

Sorry about the confusion.
:comprage1

Glad we got that cleared up, certainly seems interesting the amout of different cars those Citroen mirrors seemed to have attaced themselves to :biggrin:

I looked through some photos and it seems XP3 and XP4 both have/had the citroen mirrors (XP4 is definetly wearing them in the photos of it somewhere in california) and I also have a couple of photos of XP1 with the Citroen mirrors (I think its XP1, the photos are from road & track and the car doesn't have any indicators so I'm pretty sure its XP1) so it seems the Citroen mirrors where just used on the prototypes and not the production cars :smile:

Okay and now onto the indicators, after checking http://www.lotusespritworld.co.uk (http://www.lotusespritworld.co.uk/models.html) it seems to the indicators I am talking about are used on Lotus Esprits from the S4 (1993) right up until it ended production in 2003.

'Segg
(I hope this photo is attached, its the first time I've tried)

is that burgundy car, the christopher dawes car?
or is it rowan atkinson's?

Mclaren OEM issue was just a starting ground. And I do re RE alot. I was only curious as to whom thier OEM's were that's all. Just because they use Penski 8700 series Coil-Overs doesn't mean I'm going to run out and pay $3K a pair for them. I just thought I would be nice to compile a list of OEMs Mclaren used since it doesn't seem to exist anywhere on the web. If there list of OEM's matched My list of OEM's then great, and if not then that's fine too.

here is my list so far:

GS battery

Dampers:
Penske Coil-Over Damper

Tyres:
Eagle F1 Supercar

Wheels:
Enkei (Mag)

Brake:
Brembo Brakes Gran Turismo Brake System 14"

Engine:
BMW Motorsports

Transmission:
Weismann

I'm Still looking for Interor OEM's


Actually, according to Road and Track, the F1 came with OZ magnesium wheels; however, McLaren racing does now use Enkei wheels. Also, the F1 only had/has 13.0 inch front brakes and 12.1 inch rear. In case your interested, the OEM tool supplier for the F1 was Facom, the electronics were handled by TAG, which is now a part of the McLaren group, Nardi provided the steering wheel, and, as stated elsewhere I believe, the sound system was a custom made Kenwood system. Interestingly, one of Brembo's biggest competitors, AP Racing, provided the triple plate carbon/carbon clutch. Additionally, you are absolutely correct that Weismann made the transmission (gaining several patents in the process), but Weismann did not make the differential; that was made by Torsen. Lastly, in addition to supplying the engine, BMW also supplied most of the interior controls.

Cheers

OMG Porsche and he back! lol

Buy good after market parts, depends on the car you have. hard core performance like ~ etc. HKS,TOPSECRET,BLITZ,AEM,VEILSIDE & JUN (pronounced june) I could go on but not goin to bother however if you have a sports compact get brembos preferably slotted not drilld.

I have also a question about suppliers

McLaren use a gold foil at the engine cover, they use this foil also by the Formula 1 Cars until now.

does anyone know where is the manufacturer from this foil? I will use for a special project...it must not be the same company as mclaren use.....

From what I can recall, "Driving Ambition" doesn't mention a supplier for the gold foil anywhere. I would think if any source had, or if it was worth mentioning due to some level of perceived prestige, it would be in that book.

Gold foil shouldn't be that hard to come by though - I'd assume McLaren didn't necessarily use any fancy supplier. They probably just specified a thickness to meet their requirements, and probably a grade of some sort, and found a place that could fulfill the order.

A quick Google search for 'gold foil supplier' returned this page of links:
http://www.thomasregisterdirectory.com/alloys/gold_foil_0027487_1.html

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ER

They are Corrado mirrors,
Italian lorrys rear lights (that are still fitted to the lorrys to this day)
and some far eastern comapanys parts!
There was nothing wrong with these oem parts. They did the job perfectly well, there was and still is no point designing new parts if there is already parts on the market that do what you want, perfectly

Sekurit provided all of the glass.

You're absolutely right, why redesign the wheel (figuratively speaking, because OZ did for the F1), if there is a ready-made part that fits the specifications, use it.

This is one of my first posts, not much info, but i hope its useful,


I believe the electric mirror switch is out of a Vauxhall (astra, calibra....), the fan vents are from a ford (escort, orion or whatever) and the up/down switch on the centre console is from a bmw (e30 3-series and many other models) im talking about the one next to the mirror switch by the gear lever.

Any one got anything to do with mclaren f1 to sell to me???

Iv got my collection of F1 Mclaren Models for sale, all 1/18th scale.

I have
LM Pauls model art UT
LM UT blue box
Franck Muller GT
Castrol GT #30
Harrods GT # 51 Pauls model art
Uno Clinic #50
Fina Longtail
Silver road car
Green road car
Fina GT # 39
Longtail road car

I just read that the gold sheets for the engine bay of the F1 were made custom, to McLarens specifications, by 3M.