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Bent frame!


rrdstarr
10-31-2001, 03:11 AM
When PNWX was out two weekends ago we had a particularly challenging hill that we all successfully made it up! But three of us suffered steering wheel tweeks, MudPhud and a new member were able to correct theres through a simple front end alignment. When I had my truck aligned on Monday the guy at Les Schwabb told me I had bent my frame! HE had to manually line up the steering because it was to far out of spec! So off I go next week for estimates on what it's going to cost to get a frame straightened! Anyone had this experience before or not what it is going to cost?

I was going uphill and dropped into a rut and popped the tire of the bead. When I got a safe place to stop the tire was deflating and my steering wheel was tweeked 30 degrees to the left. The truck drove fine down the highway without any pull to one side or the other.

superjens
10-31-2001, 04:36 AM
Strange ... I made it up that very same hill with my stock truck and stock BFG Long Trails :D

Sorry about the bad news on the frame Rick, I hope it won't cost too much to get it straightened out. Definitely sucks. It's all part of the fun right? I know I'll curse when I break something on the trail. Good luck!

wilburburns
10-31-2001, 08:36 AM
Do you have any pics or video of the area? Nissan Frames are strong and I would think it would take a very massive blow to bend them...At least I'd hope so.

Where exactly is it bent? Did the Alignment guy show you where?

Cliff

Philosopher
10-31-2001, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by rrdstarr
When I had my truck aligned on Monday the guy at Les Schwabb told me I had bent my frame! HE had to manually line up the steering because it was to far out of spec!

The truck drove fine down the highway without any pull to one side or the other.


Then I call fiction. Sounds like the "frame bending" is bullshit to me ...

Schludwiller
10-31-2001, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Philosopher



Then I call fiction. Sounds like the "frame bending" is bullshit to me ...

I'm with Philosopher on this one. That spot was mud and dirt with a tree root. You must have impacted the tree root with your tire, and my guess is more things would fail before a frame rail.

Have you checked out your steering stabilizer? You might have hit the tire hard enough that the stabilizer mount shifted and is affecting your steering. (maybe over extended or something).

superjens
10-31-2001, 01:31 PM
Do you have any pics or video of the area?

I'm not sure which line Rick took, there were two ways to get up that section, neither was easier than the other. In both lines you don't have a choice but to wham into a root to keep momentum going and to get above the point of no return.

In this pic (http://www.superjens.com/pictures/Naches/goback.htm) I think it's Big Marlin taking his turn, looks like he's about to hit the tree right? When the passenger wheel hits the root it bounces you left, up and over.

In this pic (http://www.superjens.com/pictures/Naches/Claus-Charging.htm) you can see Claus doing the other side, but it's pretty much the same situation.

In both cases it was something I never would have done if it wasn't for the fantastic power of peer pressure! I was amazed to see you could actually make it up in a stock truck, but I wouldn't have been happy breaking something.

rrdstarr
10-31-2001, 01:47 PM
I will take a closer look this weekend. I got my front two Skid Row plates this morning!!! So I'll be under there for a couple hours checking things out. Anyone have good pics of the engine skid install, Eric's directions are pretty good, but I'd like some comments from you guys that have installed them also! The front is self explanatory!

FSRBIKER
10-31-2001, 02:32 PM
Check your centerlink, I highly doubt you tweaked your frame without having an accident. Now Mike from AC has had to make several sets of custom A-arms since the trucks were not able to get aligned..maybe you have a truck like one of those and now you are just far enough out of the specs to get an alignment...you can also go to another place for an alignment..just do not tell them what the other shop said. I use a highly regarded guy now that has been recommended by lots of alignment shops and 4 wheelers as the place to go when you modify your truck..maybe a 4x4 shop in the area can recommend someone like him, plus he is actually cheaper than the bigger guys. Good luck and hopefully your frame is fine.

PS EOE is now a dealer for Skid Row, I could have discounted them a bit to you...when you want the other skids let me know.

rrdstarr
10-31-2001, 03:27 PM
Dang, Was that listed on your site three weeks ago? :( I would have purchased them from you!! :)

I am going to get a second opinion on the alignment.

Anyone have any recommendations for Pugettroplis area?

Thanks again to everyone for your suggestions!!!! :D :) :D

FSRBIKER
10-31-2001, 04:28 PM
Actually no it wasn't, but EOE sells almost anything you can buy at a 4x4 shop so don't hesitate to give me a shout out. Good luck

Mike H
10-31-2001, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by FSRBIKER
PS EOE is now a dealer for Skid Row, I could have discounted them a bit to you...when you want the other skids let me know.

Discount ya say? Is this for everybody, or just the AF "clique"? :D

Schludwiller
10-31-2001, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Mike H


Discount ya say? Is this for everybody, or just the AF "clique"? :D

I believe you have to have at least a picture under your name (100 posts to get the "good" discount. :silly2:

wqbang
10-31-2001, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by superjens
Strange ... I made it up that very same hill with my stock truck and stock BFG Long Trails :D

Lots of trucks made it up that hill. The problem is the right line is really close to that root. If I recall, two people lost centercaps, one person had some plastic damage and Rick blew a bead. All I know is that I made it up no problem first try. :D However, I made up for it being pulled up that hill. :(

FSRBIKER
11-01-2001, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by Schludwiller


I believe you have to have at least a picture under your name (100 posts to get the "good" discount. :silly2:

Yep your right, 15 more posts for me...must post more!

Actually I will be putting pricing up on the site shortly for the entire line of Skid Row skids(Wranglers, Cherokees, Grand Cherokees, Xterras and Frontiers) but if anyone is interested in the meantime just e-mail me.

mudphud
11-01-2001, 03:33 PM
Yup, I blew one of my hub caps and knocked my alignment out of whack. That was about 5 minutes after I put a big-ass scratch down the left side of my truck. $50 alignment fixed the second problem. When I get around to it, a $8 hub cap will fix the first problem. I think the scratch will be staying. It's been raining so much here I haven't had a chance to try to wax/buff it out.

wilburburns
11-01-2001, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by FSRBIKER


Yep your right, 15 more posts for me...must post more!



Hey, I thought this site wanted quality posts, not just quantity....

If quantity matters, then we can alljust post yes sir, and good job, and that sucks. posts

Cliff
Then again maybe I'm just trying to get my post count up so I can get an avatar...:silly2: hahahaha

superjens
11-01-2001, 03:56 PM
I think the scratch will be staying

Hey Joe, Claus once brought up the idea of having a Mod Weekend somewhere in your neighborhood. If that happens I can bring my equipment and have a go at your scratch. I used to work in a detailing shop and I'm pretty sure I can help you get rid of that adrenaline level graph line you have on your side. Hey, I'll need something to do while the real mechanics are putting on my shocks, shackles and t-bars!

wilburburns
11-01-2001, 04:01 PM
If so do tell. My Black truck looks an awful lot like a zebra.....

If we keep this talk up, we'll start to sound like ..........X%^ :eek:

Cliff

ozxterra
01-04-2002, 01:49 AM
Ive got the twin scratch to MudPhud - same tree and everything!!! I got mine first and he was so close to me I didnt have time to warn him before he hit it...bummer. Doesnt look as bad on my Alpine Green though.
We both lost hub caps (Wahhh!). I had to get realigned twice after that run but I think I had messed it up earlier and just done nothing about it.
Jens - we'll have to trade detailing notes although I havent done anything to my X other than spray some water on it...I know - Im a lazy bugger!

superjens
01-04-2002, 03:52 AM
Chad I'd be happy to give you a hand with your paint. You supply the liquids (beer and wax) and I'll supply the equipment. Looks like we'll be having a little "mod weekend" up in our part of the world. Sliders, stereos, and now paint cleaning. I just hope we can manage to squeeze in some offroading while we're at it! :)

flyins2k
04-16-2004, 03:29 PM
whats up joe, dude bending your frame is kinda hard to do. I did it in a full size, but i had to drive off a six foot drop to do that, plus i had a tool box w/ about four thousand lbs of sh*t in it. screw schaubb

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