-
Grand Future Air Dried Beef Dog Food

Carnivore Diet for Dogs

Air Dried Dog Food | Real Beef
Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Automotive Art > Car Modeling > WIP - Motorsports
Register FAQ Community
WIP - Motorsports Post topics for any "Work In Process" motorsports vehicles in this sub-forum.
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 01-28-2008, 05:21 PM
sam01contact's Avatar
sam01contact sam01contact is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 601
Thanks: 9
Thanked 30 Times in 27 Posts
WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

Hello everyone!

After doing the Aston Martin DBR9, I decided to do an older racecar...something powerful but not as "high tech" as the Aston, so, out of the storage room came the kit of the Peugeot 405T 16GR. The Camel sponsored vehicle drove to victory by Ari Vatanen in the 1990 edition of the Paris-Dakar rally.



This is one of my all time favorite kits, in fact, I think this one made me a full time (so to speak) modeler.
I was lucky enough to buy 3 boxes of this kit when it was originally issued. Lucky because this kit is getting harder and harder to find, not to mention it“s rising cost.

A note for all kit collectors out there: There are 2 versions of the kit box, one in english and another with only japanese text. I was told by a Tamiya representative that the japanese box kit is very rare now, and it“s collectible cost is almost twice than the english box version.



Now, on to the kit...



When you open the box, you get the feeling that you are seeing parts of a recent Tamiya kit, even when the kit is 18 years old. The detail is absolutely gorgeous and the engineering of the kit is flawless. There are some sink marks but all of them are hidden in places you won“t see in the finished model.
A special note for all young modelers out there...Inlcuded in this Kit is the 1990 Tamiya catalog. It is really interesting to compare this little list to the beautifully printed catalogs we see today.







This racecar uses very basic technology, so you wont see any sensors or complicated computers. I will try to replicate the basic elements used in the real car, so research is a HUGE step here.
You won“t find any detailed schematics or photos in the internet. I spent almost 2 weeks looking for decent photos without success, so I sent a mail to the recent home of this racecar, the Peugeot Museum in France (Musée de L'Aventure PEUGEOT) asking for some photos or info that I could use.

After a couple days, I was delighted to receive a mail from Jean-Louis Laine, who is responsible of Peugeot“s Historic Documents. The mail contained a lot of GREAT photos of the real car!!! I got magnificent body, cockpit and engine details!!! I burned this photos and the ones I could find myself in a reference CD. (Thanks Jean_Louis!!!)



Well, let“s begin!!

I bought old carbon fiber material decals to use in the engine compartment and seats, and this will be my first attempt to do a race worn vehicle, so I ordered sand pigments from Tamiya and MIG.





First, I painted the engine parts with Testor“s Metalizers. I will add a black wash later to bring the molded details to life:



All pulley/belts are molded in one single part, so I decided to sand off the belts and use hair rubber rings instead. My wife had a box of this rubber bands and I found out that they have the right texture and width to use with the pulleys!





This is how the engine looks with the new belts, and after some detail painting. I installed Distributor plugs and wires:



This is it for the moment! I hope you like this WIP, and I will try to update it regulary!!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-28-2008, 05:48 PM
Joćo Paulo's Avatar
Joćo Paulo Joćo Paulo is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 12
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Re: WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

Great start!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-28-2008, 06:51 PM
klutz_100's Avatar
klutz_100 klutz_100 is offline
AF Fanatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,889
Thanks: 7
Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts
Send a message via Skype™ to klutz_100
Re: WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

Yes!! You made the right choice in the end

Looking forward to following this (although I almost don't like you for having three of the only kit I have never managed to find one of j/k)

Erm..what about the "dromedary" logos?
__________________
Guideline for happy modeling: Practice on scrap. Always try something new. Less is more.

"I have a plan so cunning, you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel" - Edmund Blackadder
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-28-2008, 08:02 PM
sam01contact's Avatar
sam01contact sam01contact is offline
AF Enthusiast
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 601
Thanks: 9
Thanked 30 Times in 27 Posts
Re: WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

Quote:
Erm..what about the "dromedary" logos?
You are right!! I forgot to tell you guys about this!

All CAMEL logos are included in the kit decals!! The illustration in the box cover doesn“t show those markings, but they are inlcuded in the decal sheet.



Nowadays, this is a different story...what you don“t see in the box cover, is what you DON“T get
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-29-2008, 12:47 AM
rallymaster's Avatar
rallymaster rallymaster is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,959
Thanks: 15
Thanked 148 Times in 147 Posts
Re: WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

Wowowowowwwwooowwwwwwww........
I think I've found my 2008 afmoty !!

I have this great desert lion to build too (and 1989 Pionner one too).
I have the chance to live not too far from Peugeot museum and have taken a lot of pics with special authorization of the museum (which allowed me to open the cars to take pics of the inside and the engine bay on several cars shown in the museum).

I also plan to build this great tamiya kit with a lot of details...
When I will have my exclusive modeling room with computer, books, desk... and everything needed in the same place. Soon I hope (well I say that every new year, "this year I move to a new home "! but... maybe... )

So no need to say I will watch your build line by line and pic by pic !!
This kit is one of the best tamiya kit which can moreover easily be improved with a lot of details...
This must be a really nice model and give an awesome result !
all my encouragements for the build ! !

Let me know if you miss some pic, I took all details I could, from inside net to brake cooling tubes...
__________________
Phil


Last edited by rallymaster; 01-29-2008 at 07:35 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-29-2008, 03:01 AM
billypee's Avatar
billypee billypee is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 759
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Send a message via AIM to billypee
Re: WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

Great start Sam. You post is very well laid out and the photographs a excellent too. Great idea with the belts too. I cannot wait to see this WIP unfold. Regards, Bill.
__________________
On the workbench:

Completed WIPs:

Completed Models Gallery:
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-29-2008, 07:29 AM
white_R34's Avatar
white_R34 white_R34 is offline
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 477
Thanks: 13
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Re: WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

Love the belt work on the engine!
__________________
Oops I didn't see you down there sorry for running you over!
http://s162.photobucket.com/albums/t248/White_r34/
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-29-2008, 08:07 AM
bullroad's Avatar
bullroad bullroad is offline
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 243
Thanks: 24
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Re: WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

hi good start.
I have this model too, but not the camel decal (italy).
I had make a the custon decal sheet , but I problem to find a typographer.
__________________
between kit and an other there is only the wait.

www.modellismostatico.com

Recent Works
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-29-2008, 08:35 AM
pawlie's Avatar
pawlie pawlie is offline
AF Regular
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 474
Thanks: 6
Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts
Re: WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

Great start and interesting subject!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-29-2008, 01:26 PM
ddtham's Avatar
ddtham ddtham is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 587
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Re: WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

Great idea on the belt. I am tuned into this one.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-29-2008, 07:16 PM
Greg Davis Greg Davis is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 45
Thanks: 8
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

Where are you located? I'd love to get my hands on a package of those "belts".

I built this kit a couple of years after it was issued (actually I received the Pioneer version as a gift and ordered the Camel decals from Tamiya since I preferred that version more), and it's still one of my favorites in my collection.

Just beware of the sand ladders mounted below the rear wing. They are the only area that really needs improvement. Of course when I built it back then, I didn't even know what sand ladders were!

I'm looking forward to your build.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-30-2008, 09:32 AM
migper migper is offline
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 26
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

Hi

I will follow this WIP with very attention, because i will receive a 405T16 next week. Im curiouse about how to use the weathering by tamiya. I want to do mine with desert dust. Keep going with that great work.

Miguel Pereira
Portugal
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-30-2008, 12:29 PM
sam01contact's Avatar
sam01contact sam01contact is offline
AF Enthusiast
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 601
Thanks: 9
Thanked 30 Times in 27 Posts
Re: WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

Quote:
Where are you located? I'd love to get my hands on a package of those "belts".
I live in Mexico City, but the rubber rings are a US made product, I am sure you can find them up there. If not, let me know.

Quote:
Just beware of the sand ladders mounted below the rear wing. They are the only area that really needs improvement. Of course when I built it back then, I didn't even know what sand ladders were!
I will sand off the molded sand ladders and build new ones with sheet styrene. I will add scratchbuilt retaining belts.

Quote:
Im curiouse about how to use the weathering by tamiya. I want to do mine with desert dust.
That's the look I am looking for...An "after a dry, desert stage" look. In fact, I will do a base with some sand to show the model "in action". Hope it turns out nice
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-10-2008, 01:25 PM
sam01contact's Avatar
sam01contact sam01contact is offline
AF Enthusiast
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 601
Thanks: 9
Thanked 30 Times in 27 Posts
Re: WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

UPDATE

I added wiring and plumbing to the engine/tranny (thanks to rallymaster for the GREAT reference photos!)





And heres the complete assembly, including the engine block:







I painted the rear suspension arms with Testors metalizers and added new brackets with straight pins.



This is it for the moment, but I“ll have some more progress in a couple days! Thanks for watching!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-10-2008, 03:24 PM
stevenoble's Avatar
stevenoble stevenoble is offline
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,199
Thanks: 8
Thanked 111 Times in 107 Posts
Re: WIP...Peugeot 405T16GR

Coming along very nicely.The engine wiring looks really good so far.
__________________
Steve Noble
Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums Car Chat > Automotive Art > Car Modeling > WIP - Motorsports


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:34 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts