Is a SUV or Van a truck?

[ZL1power69]

well most 4x2 suvs are sold to people who A. live down south or out west due to the lack of snow that would need 4x4, and B. people who want to lower them and make a street cruiser. v6 camaros are for those who want lower insurance rates and lack the additional $$$ for a v8 but still want to have the coolness of a camaro. heres my take on the suv topic:
- SUV is a truck unless its based on a car chassis and frame.
- an elcamino/rancharo is its own "breed" (although some insurance companies classify them as a trucks)
- a van is a van (mini van, cargo van, astro/safari van, converson van)
- the traditional truck is a pickup
- SUT is an suv with a pick up bed that can be converted in some way (avalanche, escalade ext, Hummer SUT, envoy xuv)

[stepho]

Originally Posted by Earlsfat

By definition any vehicle that moves with it's own propulsion system is an automobile.

Sorry Jim, Trains and Planes are not automobiles.



The first person I heard call a van a truck was Canadian. So I'm going with a van is not a truck. I would agree however that a SUV is a truck. If you have a truck with a cab and seats in the bed its still a truck.

[twospirits]

Originally Posted by Rally Sport

Anyway, my useless opinion is that a van and suv are trucks..
and jim, just because some SUVs were built "sissier" than others doesnt change their designation, just means they are for sissies..

No offence, TS.

None taken. Besides its not as bad as being indirectly being called "a SERIOUS, limp-wristed fag" by Jim.

BTW, bite me Jim, my insurance company does say TRUCK as the designation for my Santa Fe. So there.

TS out (riding my Truck/Car/Extended Wagon hybrid thing-of-a-ma-jig)

[cuda_dude]

Originally Posted by stepho

Sorry Jim, Trains and Planes are not automobiles.

that is the definition the dictionary provides

[poormillionaire2]

You guys are getting way to into this. As far as my worthless 2 cents, I think SUV's could be considered trucks. However, I don't think a van could be considered a truck.

[Genopsyde]

Originally Posted by Earlsfat

(Sorry Geno, Olds didn't make a truck version of the Bravada... yours is a CAR... )

Bravada is the same thing as an Envoy or Trailblazer dude.

[ZL1power69]

Originally Posted by Genopsyde

Bravada is the same thing as an Envoy or Trailblazer dude.

and it was the same as a blazer or jimmy up until 01 or 02

[Genopsyde]

i know, and those are trucks like the S10's

[Earlsfat]

Geno, lol... Oldsmobile never made a truck. Still don't, and probably never will.

Stepho, I used the word "vehicle" to segregate anything that uses the pavement, I was going to say anything that is self-propelled but THAT would include shit like the NASA space crafts. So spank me and call me Sally, but I drive a TRUCK and a CAR and my wife drives a VAN, all automobiles, all vehicles and NONE are SUT's, SUV's, or whatever.

And I'm still going to think anyone that considers a Sante Fe, Outback, Escape or the like a truck is a complete "a SERIOUS, limp-wristed fag", lmao. That's just like a little man's complex... describe yourself and your stuff in big words to accomodate for their "smallness". (jkg) "YEP, took the ol' truck (Suzuki Raider, Kia Sportage, etc) up the mountains (20 ft above sea level) and did some serious off-roading (drove around in gravel parking lot and spun wheels for 2 minutes). Almost had to break out the winch to get her out of the river I had to cross to get there (2' wide mud puddle), but thank god to the clearance this baby has (all of 6") we powered through it and made it home (with all 185 hp / 170 ft lbs of torque)."

Admit it... unless it REALLY is a "SPORT UTILTY VEHICLE", you have a damned car. Something that's rear axles could have a hole poked in one end them and be used to sew a sweater doesn't qualify as a "high-performance" off-road vehicle, truck or SUV. Lol.


(EDIT: btw, I had and 86 blazer with the 2.8 in it... (actually for a lot longer than I'd like to admit). Yes it was technically built on a truck frame, but to me, it was a car. So, if you want to call your Bravada a truck I understand, but still disagree... we're both entitled to our opinions.)

(Edit2:

Bravada is the same thing as an Envoy or Trailblazer dude.

- both cars imo - even more so than yours... the newer ones are less like trucks than ever.)

[Genopsyde]

Originally Posted by Earlsfat

Geno, lol... Oldsmobile never made a truck. Still don't, and probably never will.

The bravada is a truck whether you like it or not.

[viperh]

damn, No a van or suv is not a truck. Just like a compact car is not a sports car. Granted yes most of the frames are that of truck to help with the cheapness of being built but they fall under their own categories. thank god I'd hate to own a van then pay the insurance rates of a full sized truck. Van=van and suv =suv. simple.

[Earlsfat]

Originally Posted by Genopsyde

The bravada is a truck whether you like it or not.

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[FormulaLT1]

Originally Posted by viperh

damn, No a van or suv is not a truck. Just like a compact car is not a sports car. Granted yes most of the frames are that of truck to help with the cheapness of being built but they fall under their own categories. thank god I'd hate to own a van then pay the insurance rates of a full sized truck. Van=van and suv =suv. simple.

I Completely disagree and so does the majority. In most rental companys , insurance and auto manufactors, SUVs & vans are listed in the truck sub section. Also Geno made a very good point of stating, long before there was such a thing as "SUV"'s they were just called trucks.

[Genopsyde]

the poll results speak for themselves.

[Earlsfat]

Originally Posted by FormulaLT1

I Completely disagree and so does the majority. In most rental companys , insurance and auto manufactors, SUVs & vans are listed in the truck sub section. Also Geno made a very good point of stating, long before there was such a thing as "SUV"'s they were just called trucks.

I gonna get it now ...

1. The majority was wrong when they thought the world was flat.
2. How could you call an SUV a Truck before SUV's were invented?
3. When it was invented, just because it had the wrong name doesn't mean it should be left that way.
4. As in my last post, or one of them anyway, a Sportage, Santa Fe, Raider, Escape, etc hardly qualify as a truck, let alone as a sport utility vehicle. (Yeah... I'm just busting Geno's balls, the S-10 / S-15 was the same platform as the Blazer, Jimmy & Bravada. BUT! The new ones (Envoy, Trailblazer, etc) are getting farther & farther from be able to be considered a truck.)

Ima shut up now, because it seems as though certain persons are gettin mad.