Do you believe in god? - Page 6

666_speed · 08-02-2006, 11:34 PM

I honestly don't know who he was talking to. How long had god created the angels before he created man? I wonder how long god existed before he created anything. Some galaxies are estimated to be 15 billion years old and older...

poormillionaire2 · 08-02-2006, 11:36 PM

No idea, but I would love to ask him when/if I get the opportunity. But who know? It could all end when we die, just lying in the ground for the rest of mankind.

666_speed · 08-02-2006, 11:43 PM

Say there is a heaven or people are going to live on the earth forever or whatever as a reward for serving god. Could you decide to end your life there. Say for example: I'm in heaven. I decide I don't like living anymore and want to end it. Could I kill myself in heaven? If I did that would I go to hell? Or would I be forced to be miserable forever? I don't believe in hell because I don't believe we had any choice in having life, I don't think you can punish someone for eternity for something they didn't ask for and had no control over.

FormulaLT1 · 08-02-2006, 11:44 PM

I think of a supreme being that designed life and the route in which it is set in but we decide every step that is taken and which direction on way to the finish we head. I don't believe in a traditional god but believe we each have a path or option to take in our lives and depending on how we pick and choose like going threw a maze. We end up somewhere we never dreamed of or hit a wall. I think thats the idea and the good and evil we do , as well as the good and evil others do effects our daily lives and how we go about forgiveness. I think its up to us to make our lives better and ourselves happy. Its not our creaters fault if Joe Smo is a idiot and did something bad to us. That is just a lesson on our path to whatever follows next and believe me. There has to be something after.

666_speed · 08-02-2006, 11:48 PM

If you're in heaven and want to end living, would you be sent to hell? Or could you actually end your life for good?

FormulaLT1 · 08-02-2006, 11:52 PM

Why would anyone in heaven want to end it ?

666_speed · 08-02-2006, 11:53 PM

I don't know, why would anyone on Earth want to either? I would think after a billion years or so, I would grow tired of living...

poormillionaire2 · 08-02-2006, 11:53 PM

In Heaven, I don't think you can have that type of mindset. I don't think you can 'think' like you're traditional way of 'thinking'. I hope that wasn't too confusing. Just something you wouldn't think about because its paradise and that thought would never cross your mind.

But say it did, I'm sure you could put in a request to back to earch and live another life. But if you didn't like Heaven, god would be mad at you and send you to hell.

666_speed · 08-03-2006, 12:03 AM

I find that highly unfair, IMO. I don't want to believe in hell because I don't think you can force someone to suffer for all eternity when they didn't choose to have life to begin with. If in heaven god changes the persons mindset, why wasn't this done to begin with?

cuda_dude · 08-03-2006, 12:05 AM

I don't think it's possible to not like heaven... since it would pretty much be everything YOU need to be fulfilled... In a spiritual sense not a physical sense

cuda_dude · 08-03-2006, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 666_speed

I find that highly unfair, IMO. I don't want to believe in hell because I don't think you can force someone to suffer for all eternity when they didn't choose to have life to begin with. If in heaven god changes the persons mindset, why wasn't this done to begin with?

We were all created with a free will to do what we wanted as long as we obided by certain rules... we broke those rules.... now we have to work our way back up to the top... make sense?

FormulaLT1 · 08-03-2006, 12:09 AM

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I don't think it's possible to not like heaven... since it would pretty much be everything YOU need to be fulfilled... In a spiritual sense not a physical sense

Dude, why must you make everything sound lame

. Now I want to go to hell

cuda_dude · 08-03-2006, 12:11 AM

well I doubt god will be resurrecting your wrinkly old ass anyways (your body not your soul).... (thank god) so either way you aint gettin any... lol..

666_speed · 08-03-2006, 12:12 AM

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We were all created with a free will to do what we wanted as long as we obided by certain rules... we broke those rules.... now we have to work our way back up to the top... make sense?

I totally understand that. I just am not sure god cares about us like I voted because those who don't want life would be forced to live forever. If someone is totally messed up in life, miserable to the point to where they would actually take the step of taking their own life, and did end it would go straight to hell? That person didn't ask for life in the beginning and would suffer forever...not very caring from my perspective.

cuda_dude · 08-03-2006, 12:16 AM

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I totally understand that. I just am not sure god cares about us like I voted because those who don't want life would be forced to live forever. If someone is totally messed up in life, miserable to the point to where they would actually take the step of taking their own life, and did end it would go straight to hell? That person didn't ask for life in the beginning and would suffer forever...not very caring from my perspective.

I think that's a big misconception really... I don't believe hell is a place you go and burn for all eternity... I think you more or less are just no more... your soul doesn't get reignited and you are forever dead... or who knows... maybe you will just be sent back to earth to live... forever.... might not sound bad but compared to the perceived heaven, could be hell...

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