For a highly tuned performance motor - 2.4 or eco?

[Cavalier2000]

Originally Posted by Lances133

I know what you mean, I'm quite sick of that too but I'm telling ya straight up I won't be doing this for a loooong time because it's gonna cost me so much money, I'm just asking so I know where to start and what block to buy.

Last person I heard said it took them 15 hours to put a 2.2 eco in a 2200 car. That is a cake walk if you ask me

[Lances133]

How would I go about putting an eco in a twin cam? Would I have to cut off the old mounts and weld on eco mounts? The mounting is def. a grey area for me.

[PsychoJJ]

Originally Posted by Lances133

I know what you mean, I'm quite sick of that too but I'm telling ya straight up I won't be doing this for a loooong time because it's gonna cost me so much money, I'm just asking so I know where to start and what block to buy.

Well if thats the case you might as well hold off. Save up that there money and when the time comes you may end up wanting to just stuff a rag in your gas cap light that bitch up and get a whole new car altogether or go in a totally different direction.

Hell after everything is said and done anyways you could take all that money if you like and put a damn nice chunk on a SS/SC or the 2.4 cobalt and dick around with those.

Ill be the first to admit that the cobalts are just the same GM boxes of crap as the cavys but I must say I like the lines of the cobalts better.

[Lances133]

Originally Posted by PsychoJJ

Well if thats the case you might as well hold off. Save up that there money and when the time comes you may end up wanting to just stuff a rag in your gas cap light that bitch up and get a whole new car altogether or go in a totally different direction.

Hell after everything is said and done anyways you could take all that money if you like and put a damn nice chunk on a SS/SC or the 2.4 cobalt and dick around with those.

Ill be the first to admit that the cobalts are just the same GM boxes of crap as the cavys but I must say I like the lines of the cobalts better.

I already thought this, and I've come to the conclusion that I'd rather have a Cavalier that can beat those types of cars, seems more fulfilling to me to have an underdog like a cavy beat something like a cobalt or srt4

[Cavalier2000]

saw a fiero with a twin turoed 350 in it

[Crazzzyj]

Eco. I'd love to get my hands on a 2.2 5 speed Eco.

~Crazzzyj

[Lances133]

Originally Posted by OverAllComa

Cobalt SS (non-Supercharged)

And don't do that, its drive-by wire and you'll be absurdly hard pressed getting it to work.

Drive by wire? What's the 2.2eco and 2.4l then? Explain lol

[Lances133]

Well, I wanted to buy a different part every now and then from the block up but i dunno. And I also wanted to put it together myself but I'm thinking I'm just going to save up and buy a crate engine from J Body Performance even tho they're based in Canada and shipping will probly be horendous. I still don't understand the "core charge" tho, does that mean I have to ship them an eco engine first? Wtf is a core charge? lol

[Cavalier2000]

you at least have to ship them an engine, but my advice if you go that route is to take a road trip

[indyextremecustoms]

personally i have ran both motors the 2.2 eco and the 2.4L the 2.4 was in my 99 alero. I had a header, WAI, High flow cat, dual exhaust, trans interceptor, Coilovers and KYB struts, and a venom fuel rail. it was very impressive for an automatic...but i have the 2.2 ecotec in my 03 cavi noy with a header, 2 1/4 piping, high flow cat, catback exhaust, B&M short throw shifter, clutchmasters stage 2 performance clutch, Coilovers, and i can say that the ecotec is so much more impressive! I wouldnt trade it off for any other motor. on a stock motor with a hahn racecraft turbo kit w/ intercooler your quarter times would be around 12 sec. its stated on their website. so basicly you could turn an ecotec into a 8 second ride if you did a total rebuild.

[Thor06]

I would stay 2.4. Not only will it be easier to drop in to your current car, but I dont trust aluminum blocks. Also, the extra .2 L of displacement will help spool the turbo quicker.

[Cold_Silence]

Originally Posted by Crazzzyj

Eco. I'd love to get my hands on a 2.2 5 speed Eco.

~Crazzzyj

Oh im the exact same, im not doing anything to my cav cuz its a 2200 4 door auto with 229,000 km's. Considering how freaking cheap u can get a 2002 cavalier, id get one instead, thats what im gonna do. late 01 to 04 [so u def get an eco] 2 door 5 speed. I wud tinker the piss out of that and make it right Randy. You would have so much more to work with, plus the look of the 02's in black or that dark blue in 2 door makes me go mmmmmmmmm.

[Austin Voice]Yeah baby, yeah!! http://www.nfbuysellautoclub.com/ima...20Cavalier.JPG [/Austin Voice]

[Cold_Silence]

Yeah i just looked on autotrader.ca and found a 2002 eco 5 spd with 96,000 km's 2 door black for 6,200 canadian!

[Lances133]

Okay, I've decided to go Eco! Mostly because, I think it'd be pretty cool to have an 02+ motor in a 98, of course I know it's been done plenty of times before but not from anybody around here that I know of. It's newer technology then the 2.4l which is sadly enough, dead technology , the engine mounts are the same, so it will bolt right into the stock 2.4l mounts, it's just the tranny mounts I'll have to change, and basically the name Ecotec is pretty cool.

Now the question is, do I buy a complete new engine from Jbp and NOT get my core charge refunded, or do I try and find an ecotec engine, buy that, and then pay the shipping to ship the motor all the way to Canada and get my core charge back?

[97cavy]

Generally a core charge means they want any motor back to remanufacture. They charge you the premium up front, so if you dont want to send them your old motor, generally you wouldnt have to. It may be different with JBP, but you could even send them an old suzuki motor, and they would more than likely accept it.