cobalt SS sc or srt-4???

[Lances133]

Originally Posted by noshun

the stats above compared to s2000 are for 2003 SRT-4, 2004 up had 230hp and came with an LSD, which on the Cobalt is an option and when you add that option made it more expensive than the SRT-4 with the Mopar Stage 1 kit. SRT-4 is a superb car for the money. An S2000 an amazing car and a lot rarer. I'd chose an S2000 over an SRT and an SRT over a Cobalt SS S/C whisch form the start should have had the Saab 9-3 Turbo set-up and would have 230 hp and not 210 and be more tuneable

I hear ya man, but he was talking about getting an 03 from someone for a deal or something so i got those stats.

[noshun]

another thing to Add about the Cobalt SS S/C, as you can probably tell I'm most definitely not a fan of, the exhaust note is truly horrible! Rice-fo-sho. It makes me cringe when I hear one. Also the trunlid on one at stock height is almost as high as my roof and it make is look too narrow form the rear.

[my99cavy]

alright well forget about the cobalt ss/sc lol the s2k i guess wouldnt be a bad idea but i havent seen one for that cheap. i still think the srt-4 is a very nice ride. i think im going to go with that.

[Cold_Silence]

I wud never buy a god damn POS dodge ever. If u have the money get a cobalt ss sc or jus the ss 2.4 like someone mentioned. There isnt many domestics i would buy but if i did it wud be one of the chevs or maybe a ford.. SRT=SHIT

[CavLCD128]

omg look at the touque difference betwee the S2K and the SRT-4...you ever hear the saying HP is for bragging rights, touque is where the power is? does that come into play here? yea...yea i think it does...yea

also...
Some standard features-
S2000:
Limited slip differential - non srt4
Digital instrument panel - non srt4
Cruise control - non srt4
Leather seats - non srt4
Power convertible roof - non srt4
Alloy shift knob trim - non srt4

the 2004+ comes with all of these except the digital instrument panel (which is purely the owners choice because i hate digital gauges) and LSD isnt all that its cracked up to be...alot of people say they would rather not have it (i know nothing about LSD (the car or the drug) so i cant argue that LSD is good for a car or bad)

and the 2003 SRT offered optional leather seats, sun roof, and cruise control.

and dear god please show me where you can find a S2K for less then 13K because i just spoke with my uncle and he said they blue book at 15K with 55000 miles...

[Cold_Silence]

Of course, there are way better cars out there for the money, go look!

[noshun]

that whole torque thing really isn't true. you need more toque if you have a hevier car. Best comparison 91 Z24 with a 3.1 has the upper hand on torque and is down about 5hp to a 2.4 Z24 but the 2.4 stock will run 15.8 and the 3.1 only 16.1. that is due to the hosepower differential not torque as i believe the 3.1 has about 15 lb-ft over the 2.4. The S2000 is faster. All torque does is spin the tires or make it easier to drive because you don't have to downshift too much in traffic and if that's a reason you'd chose one car over another then maybe you'd be better off in a Buick. I don't understand why everyone prattles on about torque, it really isn't true that is where you make speed. Torque will also induce torque steer which was a HUGE promblem on the 2003 SRT as it didn't have the LSD (which is a Quaife Helical Gear Diff)

Also, in the other thread "significant upgrade" I mentioned the Porsche Boxter 98 Boxsters go for around $15k nowadays. I'd take that over any other car mentioned

[G-man422]

I would say the GTI, S2K, and SRT-4 are the best cars mentioned so far.

[Cavalier2000]

yea the honda is a far better car than the srt-4 but it all depends on what you like. the honda would have to be a few years older than the srt-4 to be able to get it cheap enough. You could go with my personal fav. Mazada Miata. Not very fast, no were near cheap, but fucken NICE. allmost had my hand on one fore $2000. so pissed when it was gone. you can get a little older one fore cheap and then spice up the motor

[Lances133]

Originally Posted by noshun

that whole torque thing really isn't true. you need more toque if you have a hevier car. Best comparison 91 Z24 with a 3.1 has the upper hand on torque and is down about 5hp to a 2.4 Z24 but the 2.4 stock will run 15.8 and the 3.1 only 16.1. that is due to the hosepower differential not torque as i believe the 3.1 has about 15 lb-ft over the 2.4. The S2000 is faster. All torque does is spin the tires or make it easier to drive because you don't have to downshift too much in traffic and if that's a reason you'd chose one car over another then maybe you'd be better off in a Buick. I don't understand why everyone prattles on about torque, it really isn't true that is where you make speed. Torque will also induce torque steer which was a HUGE promblem on the 2003 SRT as it didn't have the LSD (which is a Quaife Helical Gear Diff)

Also, in the other thread "significant upgrade" I mentioned the Porsche Boxter 98 Boxsters go for around $15k nowadays. I'd take that over any other car mentioned

Thank you Noshun, and I mentioned the STANDARD features on the 00 s2k because that would obviously be the cheapest and I compared them to the 03 srt4 because thats the one you would possibly get from your uncle, okay so the 03 srt4 comes with some of the stuff as OPTIONS, not STANDARD like the s2k. And I also never said you could find one for less then 13k, I said in between 15k-20k, for a couple more g's I'd say it's worth it since a honda s2000 would definitely last longer then any dodge.

[MrR0b0t0]

How ever far back the torque comment is, Torque gets you to higher speeds faster. Horsepower just limits what those speeds are.

[Classicrocjunkie]

Well... if were really going to get going on this...

How close do you live to canada and willing to drive? If your dead serious www.street-line.net can import cars from Japan for you to a port in B.C. Only catch is the cars have to be atleast 10 or 15 years old I don't really remember for sure, but last i knew they have early-mid 90's skyline GT and GTR sitting in port right now with 60-80K KM's..for around 8-10K USD. I saw a pic of a gorgous blue one i wanted soo bad, but someone snagged her up. The second bad part is... your looking at another 5-10K just to get the car road legal in the states. US has higher safty regs than japan and you'd have to get the car up to par...

[Cavalier2000]

don't believe you can make skyline street legal anymore.

[G-man422]

^ why is that?

[Cavalier2000]

gov crap, it was recently, i tried to find the post but can't find it ANYWERE, i'll keep looking