cobalt SS sc or srt-4???

[CavLCD128]

so the GTI has a smaller engine, is slower in acceleration and top speed and costs about 3000 more wit tags and taxes? hmm...VDub isnt lookin good to me

[G-man422]

^ I would say it costs more because its of higher quality.

[my99cavy]

Originally Posted by CavLCD128

so the GTI has a smaller engine, is slower in acceleration and top speed and costs about 3000 more wit tags and taxes? hmm...VDub isnt lookin good to me

yeah im thinking that im starting to like to srt-4 more now. and you can get a used one for fairly cheap. like you had mentioned earlier.

[G-man422]

Both are nice cars. i just like the MKV styling a little better.

[CavLCD128]

im sorry...lol i should of stated that unless you go to an auction and you have someone in the business that can get u a deal, then you will get that price..lol

my uncle buys and sells cars and he can get a 2003 SRT-4 wit 25000 for 12K

he said they bluebook for 15k

[G-man422]

I was thinking that was a little cheap, lol

[Lances133]

*DUH* Just hit me now....screw all of the above, all I gotta say is Honda S2000, 240horse on a N/A engine? C'mon now. Slap even a small turbo on that and you'll be beating all of the above. You should be able to find a 2000yr model in between 15k and 20k

[CavLCD128]

still overpaying for a car that has less WHP then an SRT....the SRT-4 is hands down the best HP for your buck, but i am aware there are a few other components to look at when choosing a car...

[Lances133]

I don't think so man, the s2k has 25 more horse and that's without a turbo...or any kind of boost for that matter, not to mention the joy of having a small RWD car to tear shit up. You could get lucky and pick up an s2k for around the same price as the srt4. Now keep in mind with those specs you could easily be beating most of the cars in your area, including srt4's, cobalt ss's, scion tc's with super chargers, and saturn redlines. Then later down the line install a decent/good turbo and you'd be well over 300horse and beating Evo's and Sti's. That to me seems like bang for the buck.

**Not to mention the 00 S2k had better Consumer ratings and J.D.Power ratings then the 03 Srt4.

[my99cavy]

i still think the srt-4 is the best bang for buck

[Classicrocjunkie]

Ok here is the break down of EVERYTHING....

-Turbo compressor
-2,429 cc 2.4 liters in-line 4 front engine with 87.5 mm bore, 101 mm stroke, 8.1 compression ratio, double overhead cam and four valves per cylinder EDV
-Premium unleaded fuel 91
-Fuel economy EPA highway (mpg): 30 and EPA city (mpg): 22
-Multi-point injection fuel system
-12.4 gallon main premium unleaded fuel tank
-Power: 172 kW , 230 HP SAE @ 5,300 rpm; 250 ft lb , 339 Nm @ 2,200 rpm

2005 Dodge SRT-4 Handling
-Four-wheel ABS
-Four disc brakes including two ventilated discs
-Electronic brake distribution
-Immobilizer
-Front limited slip differential
-Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel
-Strut front suspension independent with stabilizer bar and coil springs , multi-link rear suspension independent with stabilizer bar and coil springs

2005 Dodge SRT-4 Exterior
-Body side molding
-Body color front and rear bumpers
-Coefficient of drag: 0.35
-Driver and passenger power black door mirrors
-External dimensions: overall length (inches): 175.4, overall width (inches): 67.4, overall height (inches): 56, wheelbase (inches): 105, front track (inches): 58, rear track (inches): 58.1 and curb to curb turning circle (feet): 41
-Electric foldable mirrors
-Front fog lights
-Complex surface lens halogen bulb headlights
-Luxury trim alloy on gearknob and alloy look on dashboard
-Pearl paint
-Fixed rear window with defogger
-Front and trunk/hatch spoiler
-Tinted glass on cabin
-Weights: curb weight (lbs) 2,899
-Windshield wipers with variable intermittent wipe

2005 Dodge SRT-4 Interior
-12v power outlet: front and 1
-Air conditioning
-Fixed mast antenna
-Peripheral anti-theft protection
-Audio system with AM/FM and CD player
-Cargo area light
-Cargo capacity: all seats in place (cu ft): 13.1
-Clock
-Full dashboard console with open storage box , full floor console with covered storage box
-Delayed/fade courtesy lights
-Front seats and rear seats cup holders fixed
-Door ajar warning
-Door pockets/bins for driver seat and passenger seat
-Floor covering: carpet in load area
-Floor mats
-Driver and passenger front airbag
-Sports driver and passenger seat
-Height adjustable 3-point reel front seat belts on driver seat and passenger seat
-Front seat center armrest
-Glove compartment
-Two head restraints on front seats and rear seats
-Illuminated entry system
-Internal dimensions: front headroom (inches): 38.4, rear headroom (inches): 36.7, front hip room (inches): 52.4, rear hip room (inches): 52.9, front leg room (inches): 42.2, rear leg room (inches): 34.8, front shoulder room (inches): 53.4, rear shoulder room (inches): 52.8 and interior volume (cu ft): 89.2
-Low fuel level warning
-Remote power locks
-Power steering
-Front power windows
-Front reading lights
-3-point reel rear seat belts on driver side, passenger side and center side
-Three asymmetrical bench front facing rear seats with zero adjustments
-Rear view mirror
-Remote control remote trunk/hatch release
-Cloth seat upholstery with additional vinyl
-Seating: five seats
-Six speaker(s)
-Leather covered steering wheel with tilt adjustment
-Tachometer
-Driver and passenger vanity mirror
-Ventilation system with recirculation sett

As for the GTI... If top gear does a show segment on the car, it usually means something..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRvpTdLQ3hI&search=mkv

I couldn't help but throw one of the comercials in since it has the exact same color and wheels of the one i test drove..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiOY1...ted&search=mkv

... and here is one for your girl friend..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxIaY...ted&search=mkv

Ok i am done now.. I promise.. unless i can find some vids of the srt-4 for you.

[Lances133]

Lets compare -

S2000 - Srt4
hp240 hp215
tq153 tq245
2.0L 2.4L
I4 I4
No boost Turbo
0-60 5.8sec 6.31sec
Max Horse rpm 8300 5400
Trans. 6sp 5sp
Drive type RWD FWD

So the Srt4 has a turbo, more liters, and is the same Inline4 motor and still has 25hp less then a n/a engine, Where's the bang for buck?

Weight - 2809lbs 2939
Granted the srt4 is only 130lbs more and you could do some weight reduction and add some cf stuff but you don't have to with the s2k, again Where's the bang for buck?

Some standard features-
S2000:
Limited slip differential - non srt4
Digital instrument panel - non srt4
Cruise control - non srt4
Leather seats - non srt4
Power convertible roof - non srt4
Alloy shift knob trim - non srt4

Standard features that the srt4 has that the s2k does:
Foglights
Backseat

Hellloooo?....Srt4 bang for buck?...Where are youuu?...

Consumer ratings for 00 S2000 9.3
Consumer ratings for 03 Srt4 9.2
Yes, very close so big deal.

What about the J.D.Power ratings though...
5 Among the best
4 Better than most
3 Does not really stand out
2 The rest

Ratings were gathered within a 3 month, (90 day) trial with each car.

S2000
Overall n/a There wasn't an overall rating for the 00 model, think im lying and i'll give you the link.
Mechanical Quality 5 / 5
Body & Interior Quality 3 / 5
Feature and Accessory Quality 4 / 5
Performance 5 / 5
Style 5/5

Srt4
Overall 2/5
Mechanical Quality 2 / 5
Body & Interior Quality 2 / 5
Feature and Accessory Quality 4 / 5
Performance 5 / 5
Style 3 / 5

...yeah....srt4....real "bang for buck" compared to the s2k.

[my99cavy]

haha lance really wants to push that s2k lol

[Lances133]

lol I'm at work so I have plenty of time to waste.

[noshun]

the stats above compared to s2000 are for 2003 SRT-4, 2004 up had 230hp and came with an LSD, which on the Cobalt is an option and when you add that option made it more expensive than the SRT-4 with the Mopar Stage 1 kit. SRT-4 is a superb car for the money. An S2000 an amazing car and a lot rarer. I'd chose an S2000 over an SRT and an SRT over a Cobalt SS S/C whisch form the start should have had the Saab 9-3 Turbo set-up and would have 230 hp and not 210 and be more tuneable