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11-23-2006, 04:10 PM
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GM S-Series Mod
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Re: Throttle plate mod
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Originally Posted by agcneo
i did the mod, and it sounds simple. but honestly it seems like a loss of power, it hesitates now untill it hits higher rpms. did i do something wrong??! i have only put 50 miles on since i did it. do i have to wait for the long term memory in the ecu to reprogram itself?
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the only thing u can do wrong is to mess with the hole and rivits in the plate. if you just ground the half moon shaped piece off, you should not notice a loss of power. the computer will relearn fairly quickly but when i did the mod, i reset the computer with a scan tool.
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Performance: AEM intake, TB mod, ported stock y-pipe w/precat deleted, 3in catco cat, 2.5in Flowmaster 40 DF,
March pulleys, MSD SF ignition, Taylor 8.2 wires, Transgo shift kit, Corvette servos, B&M trans cooler.
Suspension: Knaffle 1.5in lift shackles, 1.25in rear wheel spacers, 31in BFG AT's
Exterior: custom ZR2 decals, bug guard, vent visors
Interior: Lanzar headunit w/ ipod input, Pioneer speakers, Scanguage II
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11-25-2006, 05:04 AM
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AF -Advisor
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Re: Throttle plate mod
A scantool won't reset the computer, it will only clear the codes.
This is a problem with this mod and is why the deflector is there in the first place, it will stop the rush of air coming into the engine which screws up the MAP readings.
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11-26-2006, 09:57 AM
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AF Regular
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Re: Throttle plate mod
so am i better off putting a new throttle plate back on? the computer seemed to relearn it, and it does have pickup, but my idle is a tad bit higher, and it still hesitates. but when it goes, it goes!
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11-26-2006, 10:57 AM
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GM S-Series Mod
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Re: Throttle plate mod
this mod should not cause the engine to hesitate and idle should not change unless you messed with the hole in the plate or the rivits.
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2000 Chevy Blazer ZR2
Performance: AEM intake, TB mod, ported stock y-pipe w/precat deleted, 3in catco cat, 2.5in Flowmaster 40 DF,
March pulleys, MSD SF ignition, Taylor 8.2 wires, Transgo shift kit, Corvette servos, B&M trans cooler.
Suspension: Knaffle 1.5in lift shackles, 1.25in rear wheel spacers, 31in BFG AT's
Exterior: custom ZR2 decals, bug guard, vent visors
Interior: Lanzar headunit w/ ipod input, Pioneer speakers, Scanguage II
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3013891
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11-26-2006, 08:13 PM
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AF -Advisor
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Re: Throttle plate mod
It has been known to cause a hesitation seeing the deflector place is there to stop the initial air gush coming in which will screwup the map sensor reading.
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11-26-2006, 10:52 PM
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GM S-Series Mod
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Re: Throttle plate mod
what map sensor are u talking about? the 96+ just uses MAF so readings would not be affected by the mod. i havent had any problems after performing the mod.
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2000 Chevy Blazer ZR2
Performance: AEM intake, TB mod, ported stock y-pipe w/precat deleted, 3in catco cat, 2.5in Flowmaster 40 DF,
March pulleys, MSD SF ignition, Taylor 8.2 wires, Transgo shift kit, Corvette servos, B&M trans cooler.
Suspension: Knaffle 1.5in lift shackles, 1.25in rear wheel spacers, 31in BFG AT's
Exterior: custom ZR2 decals, bug guard, vent visors
Interior: Lanzar headunit w/ ipod input, Pioneer speakers, Scanguage II
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3013891
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11-27-2006, 12:16 PM
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AF Regular
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Location: plainfield, Connecticut
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Re: Throttle plate mod
all i did was take that plate and grind it away. is it possible that there is turbulant airflow cause by this somehow, that that is causin the hesitaion?? i didnt touch any rivets, or the idle hole. maybe i should have mentionedim running a full K&n with spacer on it.does that help any
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11-27-2006, 08:55 PM
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Re: Throttle plate mod
Remove the TBI Spacer, doesn't do a thing.
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11-27-2006, 09:25 PM
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Newbie mod
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Re: Throttle plate mod
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Originally Posted by agcneo
all i did was take that plate and grind it away. is it possible that there is turbulant airflow cause by this somehow, that that is causin the hesitaion?? i didnt touch any rivets, or the idle hole.
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So what did you do with the riviet holes, is there something in place of them?
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11-27-2006, 10:33 PM
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Re: Throttle plate mod
Just to clarify earlier posts in this thread... The OBDII equipped 4.3L engines use both a Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor and a Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor. Although MAP sensor readings will not be affected by performing this modification, MAF readings can and will be skewed.
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11-29-2006, 06:51 AM
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Re: Throttle plate mod
the rivets are still there, not moved, not touched, i just ground off the half moon peice. should i rip all that out and replace the rivets. sorry im makin this simple mod sound so friggen retarted and hard. and the spacer is off now.
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11-29-2006, 08:01 AM
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Re: Throttle plate mod
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Originally Posted by old_master
Just to clarify earlier posts in this thread... The OBDII equipped 4.3L engines use both a Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor and a Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor. Although MAP sensor readings will not be affected by performing this modification, MAF readings can and will be skewed.
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Yes, the MAP will be affected when you get the sudden intake without the plate in place.
That is why it is there.
You will get a change from both sensors which will cause the hesitation.
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11-29-2006, 03:41 PM
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Re: Throttle plate mod
BlazerLT - I should remove my TB Spacer as well ? Even if i'm putting an after market intake on ?
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11-29-2006, 04:49 PM
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AF -Advisor
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Re: Throttle plate mod
Yes, remove it.
TBI spacers do nothing and have in some cases been proven to actually reduce horsepower.
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11-29-2006, 08:43 PM
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AF Premium User
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Re: Throttle plate mod
There went 100 bucks.
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2001 Chevrolet Blazer 4x4 LT
Mods = TPM , Intake , Exhaust , Bearings , Polished Crank , Heavy Duty mounts , Complete rebuild done Oct '07 , HD Sun Shell .
Sound = 4 12" Kicker SoloBarics L7
2000 Watt Performance Teknique Amp x3
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