04-14-2005, 10:30 AM
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Re: 2ND generation rx-7 --- v-8 conversion kit.
they move the battery to the back and set the engine further back so the weight distribution is maintained. the car does get heavier but that is offset by the fact that the v8 has more torque. thats the reason for the swap.
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04-18-2005, 11:20 PM
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swapping a 30 lb battery to the back of the car and setting a 400lb cast-iron v-8 block "back" in the car does not maintain the 50/50.. . if you are going to set the engine back, what about knocking back the firewall ??? ... the 13b as it sits weighs a whole what 200lbs (IF THAT) ? and revvs to 7000 with ease... very smoothly i might add.
why you would want to destroy a perfect fc is beyond me... only reason one would abandon the rotary is because they don't understand what they truly have.
hell a ported 20b would run circles around any v-8 conversion fc or fd, not to mention out handle it.
i may be new to the rotary scene, but i take the time to cover all aspects of the market.... i'm not going to shun something simply because "it ain't got no pistons"... typical quote of a v-8 owner.
give me a bridge ported 20b, a decent fc or fd, and i'll run circles around your v-8. this thread should die... there's a reason the rex'es came with a rotary ... it was meant to be different, not like every other car out there.
just my $.02 and all in good fun guys...
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04-19-2005, 12:59 AM
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Re: 2ND generation rx-7 --- v-8 conversion kit.
let me tell you something. the 13b does not weigh 200lbs, at least not a turbo one. Trust me, because it took 3 people to lift my turbo motor into my garage. Maybe its 200 without anything on it, its more like 260-270 lbs.
the fc engine bay has alot of space in it, so moving the v8 further back isnt as impossible as it seems. the weight distribution is maintained. if somebody knows what theyre doing they will do it correctly.
but i completely agree with you about the rotary engine in teh rx7 and why it should not be replaced. hell. i'm not getting a v8, i got a turbo 13b, were no enemies. btw the 20b would throw off the weight balance of the car also if not for other modifications.
the v8 conversion is only cheaper because its easier to find some dumb chevy 350 than it is a japan only 20b.
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04-19-2005, 03:10 PM
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lol... i've got a 13b in my garage, in pieces, DON'T MAKE ME WEIGH EACH PIECE !!!! LMFAO... kidding.
i daily drive a piston-powered car, and its reliable, and runs fine.
i have a rotary toy, and there's no way to describe the powerband, you can certainly attest to that... why anyone would want to trade that giant smooth powerband for a rattly v-8 ... i guess i just don't know.
pound for pound, i'd put a tweaked turbo fc against any v-8.... but that's just me
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04-19-2005, 06:43 PM
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Re: 2ND generation rx-7 --- v-8 conversion kit.
I dd my FC...
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04-19-2005, 09:08 PM
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dd your fc ? sorry i'm not up on all the recent terminology
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04-19-2005, 09:10 PM
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daily drive... lol man i'm retarted.
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04-21-2005, 11:14 AM
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Re: 2ND generation rx-7 --- v-8 conversion kit.
its ok.
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04-21-2005, 02:29 PM
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well since you daily drive your fc, what kind of mileage do you see out of it ... (curious, since yours is a turbo)... i get no better than 20 no matter what i do.
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04-22-2005, 01:32 PM
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Re: 2ND generation rx-7 --- v-8 conversion kit.
my car is non turbo, and i am swapping in a turbo engine in a few weeks.
i never really checked the mileage, but i guess mine is around 18-20 depending on how i drive
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04-22-2005, 01:34 PM
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Re: 2ND generation rx-7 --- v-8 conversion kit.
stock ecu runs rich which is part of the reason why its so bad.
when i swap the motor, i'll have a apex safc and see how that affects anything.
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04-26-2005, 03:25 AM
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Re: 2ND generation rx-7 --- v-8 conversion kit.
why would you take the BEST part out of the car and replace it with a PISTON ENGINE :S
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04-26-2005, 11:53 PM
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hey ... in addition to the "richness" of the ecu ... yeah, that's true...
buut. i'm pretty sure the side seals are gone in my 7 ... if you park it cold or hot, and re-start it, and get into it leaving, it smokes like a cropduster until it fully warms back up, which i am assuming is oil leaking past the seals, and then burning off when you re-start it. which is no big deal, but...
i took my 7 thru emissions here in ohio... with no air pump, shitty plugs, and the faulty side seals... passed emissions with flying colors, i was sure it was going to fail, which blew my mind...
burning oil and richness from hell .. and it runs great... lol
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04-27-2005, 03:16 AM
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Re: 2ND generation rx-7 --- v-8 conversion kit.
Lets just put all this bickering behind us and marvel at the fact that a 1.3L engine can do such wonderful things. lol
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04-27-2005, 06:03 PM
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Re: 2ND generation rx-7 --- v-8 conversion kit.
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hey ... in addition to the "richness" of the ecu ... yeah, that's true...
buut. i'm pretty sure the side seals are gone in my 7 ... if you park it cold or hot, and re-start it, and get into it leaving, it smokes like a cropduster until it fully warms back up, which i am assuming is oil leaking past the seals, and then burning off when you re-start it. which is no big deal, but...
i took my 7 thru emissions here in ohio... with no air pump, shitty plugs, and the faulty side seals... passed emissions with flying colors, i was sure it was going to fail, which blew my mind...
burning oil and richness from hell .. and it runs great... lol
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