Beside the looks, the 03 Tiburon SUCKS (not opinion but facts)

[Jaws1]

To those who hate hyundai and think they are "crap". You all want to run your mouths and try to preach. Well sit and the desk you learn I teach. This should end this debate once and for all. Hyundais quality IS EQUAL to hondas. Heres the PROOF! from USA TODAY! WARNING If you are to good to handle the truth don't look.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...cr-picks_x.htm

Spin that!!

[itsmeek]

so does this mean that the hyundai is better then the benz and bmw's, wow. nice try but u proved NOTHING. u will NEVER see a person with a decent occuptation driving a hyundai because they are low class, inferior, pieces of garbage.

[Jaws1]

Nice try? The diffrence between what you and some others have to say and Consumer Reports, Import Tuner, Import Racer, Sports Compact Car, Motorweek, Motortrend etc People actually pay to hear and care what they have to say. As I said before, you can't handle the truth. I don't care. I can throw out FACTS to back up everything I said. You say hyundais are crap ok, throw some FACTS out yourself to support what you say. Opinions are fluff, they can't hold weight. Facts are soild. Oh and a honda is not a benz eithier. So by you having a civic and an acura and not a Benz, Infinity, Lexus, does that mean you don't make decent money? I am planning on buying an xg350 later this year, but thats my personal choice. Any car that you see a lot of on the road, means that it is a COMMON nothing special car. Any questions?

[TibOwner]

JAWS1....this is great isn't it? BTW..this is Josh (Visionz) from all the forums. Gotta love the closed minded people who STILL think Honda is god in the Import Scene.

[itsmeek]

Originally posted by Jaws1
Nice try? The diffrence between what you and some others have to say and Consumer Reports, Import Tuner, Import Racer, Sports Compact Car, Motorweek, Motortrend etc People actually pay to hear and care what they have to say. As I said before, you can't handle the truth. I don't care. I can throw out FACTS to back up everything I said. You say hyundais are crap ok, throw some FACTS out yourself to support what you say. Opinions are fluff, they can't hold weight. Facts are soild. Oh and a honda is not a benz eithier. So by you having a civic and an acura and not a Benz, Infinity, Lexus, does that mean you don't make decent money? I am planning on buying an xg350 later this year, but thats my personal choice. Any car that you see a lot of on the road, means that it is a COMMON nothing special car. Any questions?

lets not talk about money, lol, and xg350 doesn't mean anything to me. those ratings mean NOTHING. read the articles about the tib in motor trend where they blast it because after all "theres a reason it's a 16000 dollar car" stop living in a dream world. just like you say i can't compare the mercedes to the honda, you can't compare a hyundai to a honda, there is no comparison there. the cars are in a totally different class. and what facts have you thrown out at me??? if we go by the ratings in the previous post, it's still like saying the honda and hyundai are better then the bmw and benz. nice try

[Jaws1]

Your ignorance really amazes me.

The consumer reports article was fact.
The SCC 8 best ride was fact.
Hyundais showing at Sema Fact
I can back up my smack with article afte article after freaking article. Its sad that you just can't admit defeat. Its also sad when you admit that facts mean nothing. Facts are just the obvious.So if you can't admit the obvious. Then who in reality is living in a dream worldhmm? Your like a stand out solider still trying to fight a war that was over 10 years ago!! All you have is opinion.
Hyundai tuners know all about hyundai the past, the present and the future. Your the choir, you can't preach to the preachers . But its amusing watching you try though. Nice try . If you can't give a fact in your responses, your arugments are baseless. Your shooting blanks, give it up try and save face.Oh and I didt compare honda with hyundai, Consumer reports just gave validation to what I and others knew as FACT all along .:smoka:

[Jaws1]

Originally posted by TibOwner
JAWS1....this is great isn't it? BTW..this is Josh (Visionz) from all the forums. Gotta love the closed minded people who STILL think Honda is god in the Import Scene.

Hey whats up. This is the orignal Jaws. Someone had my name so I had to use Jaws1. This has been some really amusing stuff. If there weren't any closed minded people in the world, who would we have to make fun of? This reminds me of the early Fxtreme days.

[2strokebloke]

Originally posted by itsmeek


lol i've also seen a twin engined tiburon. i never said you couldn't, i meant at what cost???? it's obvious you can make a yugo a 9 second car, but at WHAT COST. i give hyundai alot of respect and I admire the way they've moved up, but w/alot less money and headaches u can make a honda, acura, toyota, nissan go faster for cheaper, and it'll last longer.

Making a 9 second Yugo wouldn't be very hard to do, after all the GV+ already does the 1/4 mile at about 12 seconds! Just gut the interior, put on a high flow exhaust, and you're probably running 10's right there.

[kaoru-tochiro]

Originally posted by Jaws1
To those who hate hyundai and think they are "crap". You all want to run your mouths and try to preach. Well sit and the desk you learn I teach. This should end this debate once and for all. Hyundais quality IS EQUAL to hondas. Heres the PROOF! from USA TODAY! WARNING If you are to good to handle the truth don't look.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...cr-picks_x.htm

Spin that!!

Hundays are as bad as KIAs, they're just junk, and by my book expensive junk. I'd rather buy a used BMW for that much money. My neighbor has Hunday and he's lucky as hell he's got that 100,000 mile warrantee. What that article makes me wonder is how much Hundey payed to post up that nonsense. They've lied about other things that they posted about the Tiburon, like hp numbers ugh!:apuke: I've been in here too long.

[TibOwner]

Jaws1...yeah man. FxTreme days were great when people tried to bash us. If only Eyescream, Bry, Tommy, Chris H, Red, Random, Rafael, and Onpol were here. Then again...that might be Information Overload if they were all here posting in this thread. *lol*



kaoru-tochiro....your OPINIONS are as bad as your spelling. Try Hooked On Phonics, learn how to read and write, and then go study up some REAL info before spewing the BS you're posting.

[Jaws1]

Originally posted by TibOwner
Jaws1...yeah man. FxTreme days were great when people tried to bash us. If only Eyescream, Bry, Tommy, Chris H, Red, Random, Rafael, and Onpol were here. Then again...that might be Information Overload if they were all here posting in this thread. *lol*



kaoru-tochiro....your OPINIONS are as bad as your spelling. Try Hooked On Phonics, learn how to read and write, and then go study up some REAL info before spewing the BS you're posting.

Since any facts they could possibly use is 10 years old. All they can use is opinons. Information overload is beyond right.Those guys REALLY know their stuff. But here is way diffrent.

Do you really think they know how much boost a beta 2.0 engine can run on stock internals? NO

Do you also think they know what is the wheel hp of a turbo charged 2nd gen tiburon with a 50 shot on beta 2.0 stock internals? NO

Do you think they know what Tuscani, F2 Evolution or turbulance is? NO
NO and NO
Thats my point. I would be stupid to talk smack about a subject I don't know. Random and the rest know 10 times what I know. I would be stupid to argue against what they know. But here some haven't figured that out yet. rolleyes: But it is still fun watching them try.

[itsmeek]

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/autom...i_stalling.htm

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/autom...dai_trans.html

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/autom...ndai_misc.html

http://www.thecomplaintstation.com/h/hyundai_toc.htm


http://pub108.ezboard.com/fhyundaisa...icID=495.topic

since you god damn idiots wanna talk shit and post weblinks, here are a few for you. just a few of over 790 hits i got when typing in hyundai complaints. keep talking amongst yourselves. most people who make mistakes (like buying a hyundai) admit to it afterwards. you idiots come on here and talk about a dead subject while everybody else is rolling their eyes at you. ok your RIGHT, hyundais are great cars, we should all sell our cars and buy hyundais lol. i once saw a ford tempo run an 11 second quarter mile. i guess hyundais can do that too.

lol

i'm done w/this one.

[TibOwner]

Oh wow...should we even bother posting how many things come up when you type in "Honda Complaints."


Envy is a terrible thing....especially when people realize that their Honda's are not gods gift to the import tuning world anymore...

It's funny. I have alot of friends who drive Honda's, and they're all open minded and give props to anyone who has a ride that's up and coming in the import culture. However, most of them agree that a majority of the Honda owners out there are closed minded idiots that don't know jack about the scene. Because if you truly did know what the scene was about, you wouldn't be in here flaming people who drive Hyundai's. Then again...some people are just born as closed minded fools. Nothing you can do about that I suppose....

[Jaws1]

dam that was weak!! Posting links of people who had problems with Hyundais lol! Gee, what would you think would happen if I did a search for
Toyota and complaints
Mazada and complaints
Subaru and complaints
Ford and complaints
BMW and complaints
Mitsubishi and complaints
Dodge and complaints
GM and complaints
and on and on and on

Every manufacture is goning to have problems with there cars at one time or another. One would think that is why there are people called mechanics. Cars will break and they will fix them. WOW!!Amazing but true.

Here is some from the all mighty lol honda
http://www.thesqueakywheel.com/
www.thecomplaintstation.com/h/honda_toc.htm
www.hondaphil.com/Complaints.asp
www.hondas-parts-direct.co.uk/complaints.htm
www.members.tripod.com/~juan_espero/hype.html
http://www.members.rogers.com/hondap...complaints.htm
www.sonnax.com/bulletins/tech/T3-EL-597-TS.pdf
http://www.complaintcenter.com/Compl...Auto/page5.htm
www.complaints.com/august2002/ www.complaintoftheday.august17.1.htm
www.complaints.com/ complaintofthedayfebruary72001.3.htm
www.jameshoyer.com/news_carwarranty.html
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/9...dacomplain.htm
www.mylemon.com/Lemon_Car_Complaints.htm
http://www.earthrenewal.org/are_hond...safe_and_r.htm
www.state.hi.us/dcca/rico/lemonlaw2000.htm
http://www.complaintcenter.com/Compl...Auto/page4.htm


Is that the best you can come up with? Are you that desperate or grasping at straws? This is getting very by the moment. If you have any shread of self dignity left, give it up.

[C32Bperformance]

Hopefully, people choose a car by preference on just about any feature.

It could be on how the motor is engineered or to even how the cup holders hug (god forbid), but its not because the particular make is better.

I enjoy all kinds of tuning and performance, not just hondas, not even just imports. Show me anything from a nice M3 to a Camaro SS to a 350Z. Every make has something to offer.

You can argue that one car is better than another all day long, its easy. A Corvette is better than a Geo. But when you finally exhaust every point of information on a manufacturers involvement in its many markets of venue, how the motors are aimed and designed, the groups of buyers they're marketed too, and even what kinds of Leagues they devoted R&D to, the arguement is lost. Then consider the experience each co. has and its lost even farther.

I chose honda because im familiar with the motors, I enjoy the way they went about extracting power, the sound of the motors, the way many of them look, and the list goes on. But on nowhere in that list do I say, because hondas rule over all. I can say however that I enjoy hondas better than any other make, and this is the reason I own one. Otherwise, whats the sense in dishin cash on something you just sorta like.

So hopefully you people in here that said one make is better than another used the term loosely, roughly meaning "more entertaining to me." In that case, I thought so.

My six shillings.