Beside the looks, the 03 Tiburon SUCKS (not opinion but facts)

[NiSmO_zt]

i looked at an article with the srt in it, not bad stats, but who in the right mind would pay money for a neon, lol, not me. one thing that is wierd, you mentioned the subaru wheel horsepower at 12.1psi, my uncles factory wrx is at 14.9 psi...hrm. one extra question, ive seen the ad for the rsx-s, and they quote 200hp, which 99% of the time is flywheel horsepower , but you say your rsx has 200 at the wheels? does the car actually have 200 at the wheels? seems high, though, its prolly in the 7000+ rpm zone.... something esle to be considered is the torque, while the rsx could be at 200+ hp, the torque is prolly around 150, where as the turbo adds quite a bit of extra torque to the wrx's shit 'n git. it would be an excellent project comparison.

[itsmeek]

no

i never said the rsx had 200 hp to the wheels, mine does now after the ecu upgrade and the the air intake, i'm making about 220 to the wheels(i've never dynoed it, this is from hondatas site and temple of vtecs article w/a similar rsx w/the same upgrades i have). the wrx thing was a quote i got from a site on the net. i think it's more like 190 to the wheels.

[C32Bperformance]

Ok, first of all, this thread is absolutely horrible.

But let's ALL get our facts straight.

Hyundais are NOT bad cars. They are making really nice strides to get away from the unreliable reputation. But they still have a little farther to go. But for starters, lets look at the comment made by so many in here about hondas breaking down.

Hondas break down because they are mistuned, misused, and have a rep for HIGH reliablility. This makes ppl more brave to push the envelope with them. Honda is a good manufaturer, BUT THEY ARENT SUPERCARS, not to offend all of you ricers out there. (Not most of them anyways)

Now, Hyundai still has some more bugs to work out before they are as reliable as a Nissan, Honda, Toyota, ect... And in my opinion, a couple or three years and they will be right there. But right now, IMO, they arent quite. My grandma owns one, and she drives it like its a china doll. Already it's had a crankshaft sensor go out (2001 Santa Fe, BTW), output recall (187hp>173hp, all you tib owners got this letter in the mail also) and it goes through batteries very fast for some reason (not so sure wat the deal is with that one). Overall that isnt bad at all. But its still only about 95% of what a honda's reliability is. Right now, the largest recall honda is experienceing is an ignition switch on the brand new CR-V. And it only goes out on 1 of a billion vehicles. Granted thats something, but a tad less than hyundai. (Not to start a Honda vs Hyundai debate, i just used to work for Honda.)

Now, the warrenties. Ill settle this with one word. Hyundai's 100k mile warrenties are LIMITED. Honda's 36k mile warrenties are bumper-to-bumper.

Someone in here said Hondas suck. Thats foolish, and no response.

To ShOrTfUz, having more hp than an Si doesnt mean faster. Considering, I've taken the brand new GTS Celicas and GST Eclipses in my 00 Si (to their great surprise). It was a very close race, but i ended in front. And dont even start any of you who want to say that mini land boat (eclipse) will run 14s. Its such bull it makes me wanna hurl. You know what cars give me real tough races??? 240's, SER Spec-Vs, Cav Z24s, and even tibs are tougher than the celica GTS.
Hondas arent super cars, to finish that thought. I would like to share with you the chain of misfortunes thats happened to me since I got my 00 Si used at 17k miles from an auction that got it from a dealership. The car was leased, and abused. The clutch was nearly dead when i got it. Three weeks after i got it, i had an accident with a minivan. T-boned it. The van was totaled and pushed off the road into a ditch, my front end was (needless to say) piccasoed. The van was toed away on a giant bed truck. I DROVE MY CIVIC HOME. Number 2, my sway bar in the rear was busted in a strange situation in a flood zone against a high sitting sidewalk (because of the erosion) when the muffler was pushed against it (damn drivers ed and putting the three pt turn in my head). The front of the wheel (Rear Right) is angled in towards the car about 2 degrees from this. The handling should be terrible. I got a new exhaust and drove to miami. Hardly noticed (Six hour drive) The dealership installed the catback and didnt tell me about the sway bar and bent arm. I play with my high reving vtec, and sometimes play with it too much. I drive it hard, i will admit. Still no problems. During an oil change, some confusion happens and the dealership ends up having to drain 7 qts of oil out of the car. For you non-techs, that will damage the piston rings severely with that much extra oil pressure under the cylinders. (There was gasoline in the drained oil) and yes I drove it away and had to limp it back with white smoke pouring out of the exhaust. I adv about 26mpg, which is great since i drive it about 20k miles a year for college. Which is very high use, and in florida, the heat breaks down motors faster.
I couldnt be any happier with that little warrior sitting in my garage. And Hondas suck? Im sorry, but that is plain and simple doing these cars a misjustice.
To make this much to long story short... I just wish these "Your car sucks because I have a different one" would just get lost. About 99% of cars are driven by driver because of preference. And some ppl like to root for a single manufacturer, which is cool too. My personal favs are Nissan, Honda, and Chevy. That doesnt mean they are the only good cars out there. It's just because i enjoy a good piece of Engineering, not just a fast machine (which I definitely like also) and if everybody out there was only about fast... then just go get a Ferrari. Whats impressive about it? It breaks in a year, and costs more than its worth. Its beautiful, and fast for that first year. This is the cake for thousands, but not for me. I work for everything, and cant afford a car like that.

Thanks to all of you who actually reads all of that stuff, and hopefully this will stimulate ppl to learn about more than one kind of car, or one kind of fast, or one kind of style, or... you get the point. Cya!

[itsmeek]

all i can say is amen. point reinforced.

[hybridsol]

Originally posted by NiSmO_zt
i looked at an article with the srt in it, not bad stats, but who in the right mind would pay money for a neon, lol, not me. one thing that is wierd, you mentioned the subaru wheel horsepower at 12.1psi, my uncles factory wrx is at 14.9 psi...hrm. one extra question, ive seen the ad for the rsx-s, and they quote 200hp, which 99% of the time is flywheel horsepower , but you say your rsx has 200 at the wheels? does the car actually have 200 at the wheels? seems high, though, its prolly in the 7000+ rpm zone.... something esle to be considered is the torque, while the rsx could be at 200+ hp, the torque is prolly around 150, where as the turbo adds quite a bit of extra torque to the wrx's shit 'n git. it would be an excellent project comparison.

first off this thread is awful, your posting in the hyundai forum about how awful one of there sports model's is. To each his own - this is some ppl's car of choice, you have no right to bash it. as for the wrx psi in stock form the turbo through 1st and 2nd gear run at 9 psi above 3K rpm. The rest of the gears run at around 14.7 psi, but tapper as you go to redline to protect the engine. Also your thinking of the type s rsx with 200 hp, as for tourqe honda's manufacturers have been building engines with less torque, but the ability to rev much higher. This typically means that honda's don't accelerate as quickly right off the line as their counterparts, but they are able to accelerate for longer in the same gear (9,000 rpm redline vs. a 5,500 rpm redline for example) Making torque less valuable.

[DemonZX]

Hybrid speaking the truth! i believe I have said this many, many times in other disscusions on AF. "Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one!" Hyundai's are not bad cars, in fact they are very good cars for their price range. Now if you want to go flame about a bad car go talk all you juvenile crap in the Kia forum! 2/3's of the people in here probably aren't even old enough to drive, or have been driving for less than 2 years! You don't have enough experice with either of the cars to even argue. Me on the other hand have driven Mitsu GST's, Galant VR-4, Eagle Talon Tsi, Civic's, Teg's, RSX's, Sentra's, and all 3 generations of the Tiburon. To tell you the truth I would take the Tib. over 70% of all those other cars! It is also a thing to be ORIGINAL. Isn't that what import tuning is all about anyway?! How many Civics do you see every day? How many Integra's do you see every day? Eclipses, Rsx's....ect.! Being original is the name of the game, Right? So whoever else wants to Flame can eat my ass!

Thank You
Love,
DemonZX!:finger:

[jon364]

wow I hear alot of people dissing Hyundai because of the fact that the car carries the Hyundai name. That doesn't sound like a solid proof that the new tiburon would be a bad car just because it carries the name of hte company that once had a bad reputation. I'm planning to buy a tiburon soon, and I hope people would give more of a fact rather than opinion on the 2003 Tiburon, so that I can make an informed decision on buying a car. thanks..

[Sheehan]

Here's to all who belive that the Tiburon sucks...

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[GTV6spd]

Originally posted by NiSmO_zt
[b]super charger....BOO! get a turbon:smoker2:

Why go with the turbo if you had the choice to get a SC? SC's, as long as you can run an equal amount of psi (which in most cases you can), are just as affective. SC's also last longer and there is not that awful turbo lag because the SC supplies the motor with a constant source of power thanks to the SC being belt driven.

[03tibkane]

I just recently bought the new Tiburon GT V6 w/ 6-spd manual trans and despite all the nay-sayers until you own and drive one, you won't fully see how much HP it actually puts out before any modifications. Now after modifications, I can already tell you this baby will fly. I have tested out my car on a few tricked out civics, stangs, preludes, and even the Monte Carlo SS. I have yet to get killed, this Tiburon can keep up with the best of them. And yes this sound system and styling are one of the best out in 2003 sport cars, not to mention leather interior, comfort, and sunroof.:finger:

[Akisan2]

Bering honest, I absolutely hate hyundai. They are master of copying concpets and designs. That's a korean thing. I think their cas are actually ok. I dun think it's a bad car at all. I would never own one cause I am such an a$$ like that. I am not a fan of korean products .

One point here...
You know, I'd will give hyundai some props when they bring out RWD and AWD models with some decent power. Funny how they never have made a production level cars with those platforms and some hyundai owners think that hyundai has some place in the racing scenes. Itell you though, I give them props for the rallys. they do very well in the rallys always duking it out with subaru. that's very nice.

Show me 7-8 sec hyundai to shut me up. and not just a car CARRYING the badge. ALL hyundai or Korean product cars that can do like 7,8,9 sec on the track then I will shut up.

[Akisan2]

Originally posted by 03tibkane
I just recently bought the new Tiburon GT V6 w/ 6-spd manual trans and despite all the nay-sayers until you own and drive one, you won't fully see how much HP it actually puts out before any modifications. Now after modifications, I can already tell you this baby will fly. I have tested out my car on a few tricked out civics, stangs, preludes, and even the Monte Carlo SS. I have yet to get killed, this Tiburon can keep up with the best of them. And yes this sound system and styling are one of the best out in 2003 sport cars, not to mention leather interior, comfort, and sunroof.:finger:

gee, my 93 mx6 have those with just as same power. Your ca does about 15.9 on 1/4, while stock mx6 manual 1993, does 15.7

not to mention the j-sepc would have killed the 2003 almighty "tiberion" with its 200 hp on the 1993 mx6.

did you know the car and driver mag did a comparison of the new tib with civic si, focus svt and one other car and tib only had the v6 while eberyone had 4 banger??

I guess they are behind 10 years, that makes sense

[03tibkane]

I respect your OPINION, however, there is no room for you to talk when you dont even own a Tiburon. First, of all I'm not looking to race my car and that wasnt even the point to my thread. Second, of all you said Hyundai copies others, well truthfully every manufacturer(just about) copies another manufacturer. Why do you think they have cars that are supposed to compete against each other as far as the sales aspect goes? Most important of all, I don't believe in owning the same car as everyone else, I prefer to be a leader not a follower. If I was a follower I would own a Civic Si or a Mustang GT or some other well distributed car. But to tell you the truth, I've seen 2 Tiburons in my city and I live in Jax, FL, one of the largest cities in the US. Basically, don't knock the car because of the name because the only Hyundai, so far, that I would ever drive is the '03 Tiburon GT, not the old Tib or the new 4-banger. Its got the looks and the power I'm looking for, so in MY opinion, its the perfect car for me.

[Akisan2]

hey whatever floats ur boat, its all good. If you like the car, that's great and I respect you. I just hate the company in general. I really hate flaming peeps, but I am really starting to hate hyundai owners in general cause they talk alot of crap and their company has not accomplished much in this import scenes...yet. yet I say cause they can, but I care less. In genenral if you are happy with your car, its all good.

[GTV6spd]

You know, I get alot of laughs from looking around in forums such as this. Thats because it doesn't matter what people drive, 9 out of 10 people will defend their car all the way to the end. I even used to be one of the people that knocked on others for what they drove. My last car was a 2000 Alero V6. Everyone knocked me cuz it was an OLDSmobile. So fucking what. If you are going to knock on that you might as well say the Grand Am isn't shit because they run off the same motor. Not to mention I killed (not just beat) most of the imports that I came across. I can only think of three times I lost...one to a Stang GT modded, a CRX w/ del Sol Si swap & bolt-ons, and a modded Prelude VTech. From all the judgement, I learned not to judge anymore...period. I gave Hyundai a chance (I too used to knock Hyundai) and I was very impressed. And just to say the new V6 Tib never claimed to have 200 hp. Its claim was 181 which was corrected to 170 hp. The car responds well to minor upgrades such as exhaust and intake. You can say the car only runs 15.9's all you want but maybe someone else can run it faster. After all it is the driver and not the car that determines your 1/4 times. All manufactures have their flaws, but give Hyundai a chance to get some knotches under their belt before you destroy the name. You are all saying how much better Nissan, Honda/Acura, and Mitsubishi are, but look at how long they have been in business. And in my OPINION mitsubishi died when they got rid of the gs-t eclipse for their slow ass V6's now. Pitiful. Honda/Acura are good cars, just not top-of-the-line cars. Nissan is the best by far. High horsepower, long-lasting engines in greatly designed cars. Same goes for Toyota. Thats what the entire car scene is all about (right next to being ORIGINAL that is). So just out of the few years Hyundai has been in the market, they have far surpassed Mitsubishi and are currently in Honda's shadow. I very seriously it will take Hyundai as long as it took Honda to be a full blown competitor in the aftermarket/performance world. Now as I have just displayed...you can make a clear point without shitting on anyone else's ride. Alot of people drive Hyundais that visit this section of the forums (hint : Hyundai Tiburon section). So it would be greatly appreciated if you would treat Hyundai with the same respect all the other manufactures get. Thank you.