Beside the looks, the 03 Tiburon SUCKS (not opinion but facts)

[NiSmO_zt]

Originally Posted by TibsBeatALL

unfortunately,
ur claim has no merit
unless u show any proof
so give me a dyno or something

First of all, whats a dyno sheet gonna tell you? My car is 205hp and 227torque stock, if you care to look it up, and unfortunately, i have not got to dyno yet, but the estimated hp and torque at 12psi are 265 and 290 respectively. These numbers are based off of a fellow z31.com members stats for the exact same car with the exact same mods. But the power to weight is the real factor. The srt4 was running 9.5xx seconds in the eighth mile, dont know if this is what they should be running, but thats what he was running. I had a 9.3 and a few 9.4's at 75mph, the crap is that i sent them to z31.com, but they didnt post them, anyway, some other times are posted here

http://www.z31.com/times.shtml

To SEXY BEAST

, and if you read the profiles with mods in them, youll see that im not so full of shit after all , there was also a 350z there running 9.3's, and i was so wanting to beat him, but i guess its an intercooler and more boost before i can do that.

[TibsBeatALL]

nismo u said that u got the car for 3000
and u put 300 dollars worth of mods on it.
1. Your car is used so it probably is a piece of shit.
2. How much could 300 dollars of mods help.
ur either a lying sack of shit.
or ur a really talented driver. in which if u are, u get my respect.
but unfortunately i dont' think that u could beat a SRT4 with only 300 dollars worth of mods on a used 300zx
so i think i'll go with the sack of shit.

[NiSmO_zt]

Originally Posted by TibsBeatALL

nismo u said that u got the car for 3000
and u put 300 dollars worth of mods on it.
1. Your car is used so it probably is a piece of shit.
2. How much could 300 dollars of mods help.
ur either a lying sack of shit.
or ur a really talented driver. in which if u are, u get my respect.
but unfortunately i dont' think that u could beat a SRT4 with only 300 dollars worth of mods on a used 300zx
so i think i'll go with the sack of shit.

First of all, USED means nothing!! There ARE people out there that actually take care of their vehicles and just because it didnt just roll off the showroom floor doesnt mean its destroyed. The good thing is that the 300zx was nissan's flagship, so it was built with quality, and it shows in its old age.
If you want proof that my car is not a piece of shit, go here for some pics of it. Its 17 years old and it runs great with 172000 miles on it, and the interior is very nice. You would be hard pressed to find a car as old as it with as many miles it has, in the same condition.

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~boppcj

Its my homepage. Secondly, you seem to know very little about turbo cars. The beauty about a turbo is that all you really have to do is open up the intake and exhaust, and then boost it as far as it will go. I put a $100 k&n intake on it (pics), a $50(i think theres pics of it too)manual boost controller, and about a $150 muffler, and it cost nothing to gut the catalytic converter. After thats done, crank the boost, thats it.

You can buy 300zx's all day long for 3000, the problem is finding one, at least, around here it is.

[TibsBeatALL]

not bad at all nismo
i take back my stupid sack of shit comment
although i'm still a bit skeptic on the part of you beating a SRT4 with only the stuff u hav.
and also your car having 172000 miles on it.
and ur wrong about USED MEANS NOTHING!!!
cuz unfortunately, it does mean something.
u wouldn't buy a 300zx for 3000$$ if it was in good condition. sorri. it's kinda hard for me to believe.
i would hav to actually see this to believe

[NiSmO_zt]

Your right, used does mean something, but there's a sucker born every minute, and you can steal some cars from people for a lot less than their worth. And about paying 3000 for my car, it was actually a midrange price. Because the cars are between 14-19 years old, the blue book prices are low(<2500), and some people just dont know what they have. Take this recent experience of mine for example: There was this 95 240sx for sale, base model, 5 speed, around 80k miles on it. Body was good, title good, interior immaculate, motor ran A-1, drove nice, no rust. The guy wanted $1700 for it!!! The car was worth $3900 as it sat there. If i had anywhere close to that amount of money, i would have snatched it up and sold it for a mad profit. These deals are all over, its just about the time and the place.

And actually i made $500 on a 240 i bought about a month ago, a 91 se, bought it for 1500 adn sold it for 2000 with just some soap and water.

Props to you as well for being respectable. Most people are just stubborn and think everyone on the net is lying about shit.

What i need to do is take my friends video camera to the track and then transfer the mpeg's to the comp to upload, that would be phatty.

[TibsBeatALL]

that would be a hott video if u could actually tape u racing against a SRT4

[ColeIketani]

I have to agree. I also own a Tiburon (Which is my second. First was a 99) which is still in good shape. Since we've own them I've never had to take either car into the shop for anything. They are great running car and I think they run smooth (the cabin noise is one thing, but I deal with that). Most of the time people who complain about Hyundai's are people who have 1) never owned or driven one or 2) haven't owned one in the last 10 years. My family used to own a 86 Excel when I was a kid. Took that car at least 8 years before it started to act funny.

About the warrenty, did some people ever think that the warrenty is just another added incentive to buy the car? Hmm?? You didn't?? Well it is. For a car that runs so well, I think that the warrenty is great. Makes it so I don't have to worry about going to Jlube for an oil and filter change and spend my money on Import Tuner and other great things.

[nisco]

i jus dun get why peopel have to go and try and prove that their car is teh greatest.. against a korean car company...

[MexSiR]

Somethings are true. But you cant compare a hyundai with a sporty Honda, nissan or toyota those companies are at another level. Perhaphs comparing a hyundai with a daewoo or a suzuki would suit better...

[nisco]

people think that all toyotas and all nissans and all cars in a car company are better than a tiburon...
a sporty honda.. is that an oxy moron or were you making a joke?.... yeah theres better cars than a tiburon and theresbetter cars than a celica and a 350z but seriously peopel are trying to prove something that is already been known and alota peopel are just posting stupid shit and re-iterating pointless garbage...

[portscan69]

Originally Posted by nisco

people think that all toyotas and all nissans and all cars in a car company are better than a tiburon...
a sporty honda.. is that an oxy moron or were you making a joke?.... yeah theres better cars than a tiburon and theresbetter cars than a celica and a 350z but seriously peopel are trying to prove something that is already been known and alota peopel are just posting stupid shit and re-iterating pointless garbage...

(Good Point Dude, I agree, pointless stupid shit)

All the talk about Honda, Nissan, this and that, import this and import that with the Tibby being knocked.... Well have you know Honda, Toyota, Nissan are not true imports.. Granted they have a import name and are a descent from that country but they arent true imports.. Your Hondas and such are made right here in the good ol usa.. The Tiburon is a true import.. Built to U.S. specs and imported directly from South Korea. I in fact had to take my tiburon back in for repairs due to salt getting between my window and body on the back hatch and causing a small rust spot. That is true import!! Right on the freakin boat with ocean water being splashed up on it..

[nisco]

... exactly!
why do you think its so hard for hyundai owners to get good aftermarket parts....... cause theyre made in korea too cause teh marketers are based there.... i jus hope this thread gets another loser bashin teh tib... cause itll prove he has nothing worth saying and no life....plus wont know what hes talking about...

[machinis]

Originally Posted by NiSmO_zt

hes probably blue printed the engine, and, well, there are always those guys with the seemingly endless supply of $$ that do things like that to cars...

This has got to be funniest post I've ever read in regards of La Pulga. If you even thought of being a low-budget racer, multiply that times 10, and you will get a slight idea of what their race shop looks like. I've been there myself. Good people though; humble & straight to the ponit... FAST!!! Mad props to Misito and his crew

[Kban135]

There is no comaring a honda to a Hyundia. Honda the car and company are complete trash. I bought a 99 Prelude with 20K miles on it a year and a half ago at 30k the exhaust came apart (under warranty but crappy service from dealer) at 40k my sunroof motor went out and my car started burning oil. cost $1200 to fix then at 43k my trannie went out called honda to see what the f is up and they tell me there is a flaw in the casing of the transmissions on all 97- 01 preludes and accords. they said they extended the warranty on 2000 and up but told me I was screwed
I coouldn't drive my car for a month while the dealer looked for a trannie in a junkyard. one from honda cost $7000.after I got the car back the dealer actually told me to sell the car because the new trannie only had a one year warranty and it would most likely break and I would have another $4500 repair bill.
so I sold it and bought an '03 tiburon great car faster and more fun to drive at 18k mi with no problems whatsoever Great service from the dealer (they sell and install aftermarket parts so you can keep your warranty) just got AEM CAI and a sharkracing cat back from them
I love my Hyundia and am proud of it. If you don't like I could care less

[lowsonoma1999]

You all have made good points, but everybody's situation is going to differ. I am a parts manager at a Hyundai dealer in Indianapolis, IN and I have seen problems with the Tiburon's along with many others. I have owned a number of cars, mostly GM, but have had a few imports also. Hyundai is getting much better as far as quality goes. When I first started we were putting a new transmission in a Hyundai about every other week. I haven't had to order a transmission in about 3 months now. My wife drives about 40 miles each way from work, so she puts a ton of miles on her car. Thats the main reason I bought her a 03 Sonata LX, even though I do get a GM discount. Transmissions seem to be the most major problem seen with all Hyundais, though they have gotten a lot better. One of my techs thats been with Hyundai for 8 years said they used to have to push them off the transporter because they would come in with bad transmissions. We see more problems with manual transmissions than with autos on the Tiburon, mainly because kids own them and think they are race cars and burn the clutch up. Had one kid go through 2 clutches in 12k miles. The clutches have a 12 mon 12k mile warranty, and even though he was barely inside the 12k miles, Hyundai would not warranty it after we sent them pics of what the clutch looked like when we took it apart. Hyundais do hold up for normal use and are good cars. I also have a 02 Eclipse GT. I can say the Eclipse is more fun to drive than any Tiburon I've driven. More room, more comfortable, better gas mileage (my last trip from Indianapolis to Connecticut in my Eclipse got 33mpg and yes it is a v6), more power. But it has had its share of problems, (cd changer, warped rotors, sunroof track, leather flaking, broken interior trim). Some of you say that Hondas don't hold up with boost. I have a friend that has a 93 Civic hatch with a B18C1 in it (integra gsr), runnin 23psi boost, runs low 11 sec 1/4 mile with slicks, daily driven 45 mins each way to and from work. Has been doing this about a year now with no problems. However, there are Hondas out there that are pos also. I also had a '90 CRX Si, driven just to and from work. I put more money into that car than I did the 7 other GM cars and trucks I had combined.

No matter what, there are going to be good cars and bad ones, not every honda is perfect, nor is every Hyundai, but there are going to be those that have problems repeatedly for different things. You all should quit argueing about it and more on.