09-22-2005, 12:14 AM
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Re: Engine swapping question
yea, and what i said about mod'd cav was becasue he took what i said turned it upside down and backwords just so he can try to make me look like a retard.
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09-22-2005, 01:30 AM
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Re: Engine swapping question
whatever point your trying to make isnt working man..your only digging yourself a hole and pretty soon your not going to be able to get out of it...i have nothing against you..never did...mostly cuz i dont know you...but the point being you dissed me AFTER someone else corrected me...in my book i call that taking someone elses work...YOU are in no position to make fun of my thinking that 2.2 was the fuel to air mixture seeing as how you didnt know the difference between a 2.2 and a 2.4..we both came in this thread with the motive to help someone out..and we both came into this thread with a fault..i see that as even playing ground...i made a mistake someone corrected me..i appologized...dont take someone elses credit and flame me for my mistake...i was not wrong about the swap with the motor or the difference between the 2 motors...you can ask anyone in this forum...they will side with me on that logic..i didnt mean to offend you by correcting you on the fact that the 2.2 is an OHV and the 2.4 is a DOHC im only stating a fact...my thinking that 2.2 equaling fuel to air mixture is irrelavent...wether i was right or wrong it has no affect on screwing up the guy that started the threads decision...let it go man...you can argue all you want with everyone else about what youve said and havent said...the truth is your only digging your self a hole...yes..u asked about a twin turbo set up on a 3.8 and you asked about AWD....if you wanna come on here and rip me out on knowing shit cuz apperently you know more then me..then why are you asking questions like that when you should know right ?...i dont know..maybe its just me..but by the sounds of it the way you talk you seem to know alot..so why bother asking about twin turbo AWD 3.8 cavaliers...and no post counts DO NOT state knowledge of a subject...only how many times you said something..false or true...and by the sounds of it..more false then true...but im not going to judge..dont worry ill be bigger then that *wink wink...especially being as how i havent been here that long..you can tell by my 250-300 post count..so im technically pretty stupid still lol..but it sounds to me like you have history and its not exactly a good history...just cut the shit out and let it go man...we were even when we started..i would like to be even when we finish..not you getting your ass handed by EVERYONE in this forum cuz you couldnt keep your mouth shut...theres a time to fight and theres a time to walk away...i think its time to walk away viperstorm
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09-22-2005, 01:38 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Engine swapping question
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Originally Posted by Viper_Storm
again, are you reading the same page or what? just pulling stuff out of your ass huh? i didnt start this shit, mod'd_cav tried to disrespect / insult me first, all i tried to do was help.
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by the way you dip shit...where in there besides my mistake did i take what you said and turned it upside down and backwards to make you look retarded
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Originally Posted by Mod'd_Cav
wrong..the 2.4 is NOT a direct swap into a 2.2 stock cav...your going to need wiring harness' ,motor mounts ,ECU
your best bet is to buy a recked Z24 and rip the guts out and replace it exactly how you found it in the reck into your car....OR sell your car and buy a Z24 all together...those are the 2 cheapest ways
and the disadvantages of it costing more cuz its .2L more? ,,,that doesnt even make sense..it has nothing to do with how many more litres it is that makes it more expensive..the 2.2, 2.4, 3.1, 3.8, 5.0, 5.8 are discriptions as to how much of a fuel to air mixture for combustion the engine uses
theres no real disadvantage to having a 2.4 except that its a DOHC and maintenance might be more then a OHV dont quote me on it tho...they might actually end up being the same to fix..
advantages would be if you like speed its alot cheaper to get more out of a 2.4 since it takes better to mods..and stock engine itself can compete with some of the best sports cars out there already which is pretty good.
but the point really being...if your going to perform a swap on your can cuz theres sentimental value i would buy a reck or write off with the engine and tranny left alone and rip EVERYTHING out of the Z24 and put it into your car. cheaper buying the car for like 500-800 bucks and getting EVERYTHING then paying 1000 for an engine--200 for the ECU--300 for the wiring harness--etc
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this is a section on your post you made AFTER the other guy corrected me...if im not mistaken..i think you started the disrespecting
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Originally Posted by Viper_Storm
this makes you look real smart. might wanna do a lil bit of research before you say this again "2.2, 2.4, 3.1, 3.8, 5.0, 5.8 are discriptions as to how much of a fuel to air mixture for combustion" wow. your real smart.
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oh wait...this one too
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Originally Posted by Viper_storm
and mod'd_cav your still stupid for believing that those numbers ment some kind of shit for fuel/air mixture, who believes that shit? did you just fall off a turnip truck? i mean wdf? i made an honest mistake, im new here and your best excuse for being stupid is well someone told me that... LOL!!!!!
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get my drift ?
i only corrected you on what you were wrong with..i didnt call you down..i didnt called you names...ill call you names now..only cuz you deserve it now...i only stated facts besides the air to fuel ratio being wrong...get your fuckin eyes checked...cuz if you really read it..it sounds more like im talking to the guy that started the thread...NOT you
and correct me if im wrong but was it not that you actually took what i said and blew it totally out of proportion and turned it backwards and inside out to make it sound like i was trying to make you sound retarded
i dont know..but it sounds more like the only person that made you sound retarded was YOU...cuz nowhere in my original post did i flame you or call you names or talk shit about you but now we've got a bunch of ppl in here setting you straight
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oh and btw tough guy, how come you didnt bother to correct the other guy then? hmmmm? i think its becasue you dont know wdf your talking about, you come to the cav section for help or what ever and your best help comes from a dude with a riced out cav and a some dude with an old beat ass dsm. i think i will just buy me a haynes manual and do it my self since none of you are willing to bring your head out of your ass.
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saying shit like this...my "riced out" cav and a "old beat ass" dsm isnt a good idea...not only is that disrespecting other ppls rides (which 2000 posts later you should know thats a pretty big rule around here) its also a pretty dick move on your part...and from my experience, ppl that talk out of their ass like that..are usually jelous cuz their ride..really is a piece of shit.
smarten up so i dont have to take you to school again.
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09-22-2005, 08:00 AM
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Re: Re: Engine swapping question
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Originally Posted by Mod'd_Cav
whatever point your trying to make isnt working man..your only digging yourself a hole and pretty soon your not going to be able to get out of it...i have nothing against you..never did...mostly cuz i dont know you...but the point being you dissed me AFTER someone else corrected me...in my book i call that taking someone elses work...YOU are in no position to make fun of my thinking that 2.2 was the fuel to air mixture seeing as how you didnt know the difference between a 2.2 and a 2.4..we both came in this thread with the motive to help someone out..and we both came into this thread with a fault..i see that as even playing ground...i made a mistake someone corrected me..i appologized...dont take someone elses credit and flame me for my mistake...i was not wrong about the swap with the motor or the difference between the 2 motors...you can ask anyone in this forum...they will side with me on that logic..i didnt mean to offend you by correcting you on the fact that the 2.2 is an OHV and the 2.4 is a DOHC im only stating a fact...my thinking that 2.2 equaling fuel to air mixture is irrelavent...wether i was right or wrong it has no affect on screwing up the guy that started the threads decision...let it go man...you can argue all you want with everyone else about what youve said and havent said...the truth is your only digging your self a hole...yes..u asked about a twin turbo set up on a 3.8 and you asked about AWD....if you wanna come on here and rip me out on knowing shit cuz apperently you know more then me..then why are you asking questions like that when you should know right ?...i dont know..maybe its just me..but by the sounds of it the way you talk you seem to know alot..so why bother asking about twin turbo AWD 3.8 cavaliers...and no post counts DO NOT state knowledge of a subject...only how many times you said something..false or true...and by the sounds of it..more false then true...but im not going to judge..dont worry ill be bigger then that *wink wink...especially being as how i havent been here that long..you can tell by my 250-300 post count..so im technically pretty stupid still lol..but it sounds to me like you have history and its not exactly a good history...just cut the shit out and let it go man...we were even when we started..i would like to be even when we finish..not you getting your ass handed by EVERYONE in this forum cuz you couldnt keep your mouth shut...theres a time to fight and theres a time to walk away...i think its time to walk away viperstorm
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sounds ok i guess, but then you go on to disrespect me some more...
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09-22-2005, 08:08 AM
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Re: Engine swapping question
how about this idea, we (you (mod'd_cav), Thor06, and i) forget about this shit, and start all over again?
sorry for disrespecting both of you.
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09-22-2005, 12:18 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Engine swapping question
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sounds ok i guess, but then you go on to disrespect me some more...
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dood you had it coming as soon as your started at the beginning of the thread
deal..ill forget it happened...just dont try that shit again man...now hopefully thor will let it go now too lol
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09-22-2005, 12:43 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Engine swapping question
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dood you had it coming as soon as your started at the beginning of the thread
deal..ill forget it happened...just dont try that shit again man...now hopefully thor will let it go now too lol
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Well I WONT DAMNIT  ahahahahahah
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09-22-2005, 12:54 PM
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Re: Engine swapping question
shit i think i have carpel tun syndrome from those 2 posts lol
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09-22-2005, 01:38 PM
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Re: Engine swapping question
i think since i have my answers and this flaming has gone on long enough forgotten or not, this topic should get locked now, and viper definatly broke the rules of not dissing someones car, doesnt that call for anything?
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09-22-2005, 02:17 PM
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Re: Re: Engine swapping question
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i think since i have my answers and this flaming has gone on long enough forgotten or not, this topic should get locked now, and viper definatly broke the rules of not dissing someones car, doesnt that call for anything?
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YEP .
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09-22-2005, 07:06 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Engine swapping question
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deal..ill forget it happened...just dont try that shit again man...
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09-22-2005, 11:38 PM
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god damn, this is quite a thread
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