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Old 09-19-2005, 08:13 PM   #16
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The easy solution would be to buy a set of (cheaper) rims that fit that you don't care if they get corroded and mount some winter tires (e.g. Bridgestone Blizzaks) on them. Then just swap them out with the seasons.

If you are going to run the same tire year round, just take care of your rims. If they are mag or aluminum wheels, you don't have to worry about rust but other corrosion is an issue. Keep them clean, washing the salt/snow off after driving through the wet sloshy stuff, and keeping them waxed will help keep them looking good.
the problem isn't just the condition of the rims. I had a similar problem with my last car. you need thin wheels and tires for winter. thin tires = better winter traction but worse summer traction. two sets of wheels works best.
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:04 PM   #17
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you need thin wheels and tires for winter. thin tires = better winter traction but worse summer traction. two sets of wheels works best.
i am 99.9% sure that is

actually, im 100% sure that is bs... you need a bigger contact area so you dont slide when you hit a big as patch of ice. who ever told you that was either lying or didnt know what they was talking about.

the wider the tire the more contact area, the more contact you have with the road the more traction you have.
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:41 PM   #18
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i am 99.9% sure that is

actually, im 100% sure that is bs... you need a bigger contact area so you dont slide when you hit a big as patch of ice. who ever told you that was either lying or didnt know what they was talking about.

the wider the tire the more contact area, the more contact you have with the road the more traction you have.
Your are correct, if you want to ride on top of the snow. I remember seeing a special on TLC or The Discovery Channel about a group that customized some range rovers to trek across Antartica. They outfitted the car with some massive tires to spread the vehicle load out over a larger area. This allowed a heavy vehicle to "float" on the top of the snow. This was good when you are only traveling 10-15 MPH and don't have to worry about other drivers and stopping quickly.

Most passenger vehicles probably don't see too much driving across conditions like that. With city driving, you want tires that are narrower. Much like with water and hydroplaning, a fatter tire will "plow" into the snow and lift up. The narrower tire, the less it has to compact or push out of the way. So you get better traction as the weight of the car is spread over a narrower area.

Along with being more narrow, they typically are made of a rubber that says flexable in cold weather (high performance tires turn to "hard plastic" in cold weather. They also frequently have siping allowing the tire to flex and grip better.

You can read more about winter tires here. (Disclaimer, Tire Rack obviously has a vested interest in selling you tires...but it's still a decent resource).
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Old 09-20-2005, 03:22 PM   #19
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Re: Winter rims

Hey I was Kidding But just for that chump iam running 20"Boss Chrome rims on my car not steels not stainless and i just paid a little over 3 grand for em so nicer then i ll ever have eh haha besides i didnt meen anyhting by it i was just trying to make a joke
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Old 09-20-2005, 04:09 PM   #20
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Hey I was Kidding But just for that chump iam running 20"Boss Chrome rims on my car not steels not stainless and i just paid a little over 3 grand for em so nicer then i ll ever have eh haha besides i didnt meen anyhting by it i was just trying to make a joke
Can you show some pics? I want to see a picture of a cavalier with some 20's on it. Post a pic or two.
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Old 09-20-2005, 09:42 PM   #21
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Re: Winter rims

thinner tires are better for winter, because they have less surface area, therefore more pounds per square inch. wider tires do float on snow better, your right, but they also float over ice better. in my opinion its more important to have better traction on ice than snow.
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Old 09-20-2005, 09:44 PM   #22
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btw, thanks for support, cdru
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:02 AM   #23
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Yea just get another set of wheels.
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Old 09-21-2005, 11:33 PM   #24
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and don't listen to viper storm, I've been here 2 days, and I can already tell he's full of shit.
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Old 09-22-2005, 03:56 PM   #26
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No offense but can u not read? HE clearly said that thinner tires were better for the winter.
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Old 09-23-2005, 02:15 AM   #27
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Yeah I live in Nebraska. I think I will keep the factory LS Sport rims on but clean them off daily. Sure I'll look like a weirdo to the neighbors going out in the friggin freezing weather to clean my rims off but they already hate my family. I swear they seen our ghetto lawn mower when me moved in and said, "Ugh trash... let's hate em!"
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Yeah I live in Nebraska. I think I will keep the factory LS Sport rims on but clean them off daily. Sure I'll look like a weirdo to the neighbors going out in the friggin freezing weather to clean my rims off but they already hate my family. I swear they seen our ghetto lawn mower when me moved in and said, "Ugh trash... let's hate em!"
I just love how people revoleve thier life around image. You lownmower looked trashey so there for you are. I Drive a 94 rust bucket cavalier to work. It has a new engine but looks like crap. Get 35+ to the gallon but people still look and stare
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Old 09-23-2005, 05:37 PM   #29
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as long as you dont have it raised or anything stupid I dont see why its a big deal. people judge to quickly. I do sometimes too. If they think your trash becuase of your lawnmower then screw them, most of my neighbors have crapy lawnmowers. thats not the right basis for hating someone. sorry, I got carried away. btw, sorry to insult you viperstorm, but you started it. you just say stuff before you research it and dont know, and insult people when they're right.
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Yeah I don't care much for my neighbors anyway. We love our lawnmower. I mean come on, it's got like 3.5 or 4.5 horses. Nice once. All of our neighbors are crazy about their lawns too. Never a day when one isn't mowing. Never. Most of them drive cars that are barely better than ours and we have nothing special. I sealed a deal on a Cavalier this week, an 03 and it'll probably be one of the better lookers in the hood. That'll make up for the lawn mower!
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