Camaro Vs. 04 Cobra

[Mr. Luos]

Wow.....I go to work, and this thread blows up even more.

03/04 Cobra > LS1 F-Body > M3
At least in straight line performance. M3 does it with a 6 cylinder though, and out of those cars, I would take the M3. But in straight line....

I know of a guy in Jersey that runs 12's with his V6 Camaro. Bottle. And a great setup to hook. If I could ever run off this mountain, and get any kinda of launch, I would be running 12's on street tires. Of course....would.

Back to the Mustangs things....while GM was releasing the LS1 into the F-Body's, Ford had nothing that could run with them at the time. 2002 was the last of the F-Body's, and in 2003, Ford showed up Corvettes with the Cobra. A stock C5 isn't even competition for the 03/04 Cobras. The Z06 would barely edge out the Cobra.

I read someone posted something about the new 2006 Z06 wasting Cobra's.....
Let's see.....Cobra = $33,000......Z06 = $80,000
Add $2000 in mods, and a Cobra would run about even with the new Z06.
03/04 Cobras have been known to hit 500 RWHP with $1200-1300 in mods. They are SICK.
I love old school mustangs, but never did get into the late model Mustangs. The 2005 is even uglier. But Ford has a great powertrain.

If I wanted a car for overall straight line performance, I would sell my Trans Am and get a Cobra.

[bag91]

It blew up alright...all because of me!!!!!
Anyway, I like the new Mustangs....I also correct myself with the GTO...it is darn sweet.
I like WS6 as well....anyone know HP on those?

[Muscletang]

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

Back to the Mustangs things....while GM was releasing the LS1 into the F-Body's, Ford had nothing that could run with them at the time.

The Mustang was cheaper though than the Camaro and that turned out to be the key to victory.
Also, I heard several people in this thread say the Mustang beat the Camaro because it has more options than the Camaro like the V6, GT, Cobra, Saleen, ect. This isn't the case at all. The V6 Mustang was what did the Camaro in. I think it was either in '99 or '00 V6 Mustang sales out numbered total Camaro and Firebird sales.

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

I read someone posted something about the new 2006 Z06 wasting Cobra's.....
Let's see.....Cobra = $33,000......Z06 = $80,000
Add $2000 in mods, and a Cobra would run about even with the new Z06.
03/04 Cobras have been known to hit 500 RWHP with $1200-1300 in mods. They are SICK.

7.0L ZO6 vs. 4.6L Cobra
I sure as hell hope the ZO6 could win with that liter advantage and price. Anyway, I'm curious to see how the new GT-500s do against it and if they'll run with them. Personally, I think Chevy needs to explore into DOHC engines again. Just think what a DOHC LS-1 could do.

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

I love old school mustangs, but never did get into the late model Mustangs. The 2005 is even uglier. But Ford has a great powertrain.

I wouldn't call the '05 ugly. If you love old school Mustangs then you should like the newer ones, oh well. Ford does have a good powertrain but Chevy's is pretty awesome too.

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

If I wanted a car for overall straight line performance, I would sell my Trans Am and get a Cobra.

or a funny car

[Mr. Luos]

WS.6 = SS

Hell, not even sure what mine was rated at. I think it was 320/325 or something like that. I will look it up....

Mine dyno'd at 320 RWHP and 333 ft/pounds with lid and catback.


Okay....
320 HP for 99-00 WS.6's
325 HP for 01-02 WS.6's
I believe they were rated at 335 ft/pounds. Not 100% on that.

[bag91]

nice

[Mr. Luos]

Originally Posted by Muscletang

The Mustang was cheaper though than the Camaro and that turned out to be the key to victory.
Also, I heard several people in this thread say the Mustang beat the Camaro because it has more options than the Camaro like the V6, GT, Cobra, Saleen, ect. This isn't the case at all. The V6 Mustang was what did the Camaro in. I think it was either in '99 or '00 V6 Mustang sales out numbered total Camaro and Firebird sales.

You know the funny part about that....
GM spent FOUR times the money on marketing for the new GTO than they ever did on the 98+ F-Body's. Guess which sold more.

Originally Posted by Muscletang

7.0L ZO6 vs. 4.6L Cobra
I sure as hell hope the ZO6 could win with that liter advantage and price. Anyway, I'm curious to see how the new GT-500s do against it and if they'll run with them. Personally, I think Chevy needs to explore into DOHC engines again. Just think what a DOHC LS-1 could do.

Eh....
That goes into the displacement versus boost arguement. Both work to make power.
We never saw a DOHC LS1, because GM was outrunning most cars with a basic pushrod motor.
GM likes to stick to a cheaper method. Pushrod motors are plain out cheaper. And they are still making the power they need to be. I don't see GM moving from them anytime soon.

Either way.....Ford appears to be running the domestic performance car show right now. Corvette is up there, but for the price....Cobra.

[philly rs]

i think the new mustangs are butt ugly, the first few days they were out i was at the dealership with my buddy who wanted to trade in his 01 for the new model and i thought this is different, as the days went on i gravitated towards the ugly end with that car, not sleek at all, the ws6 is bad ass and for some reason its rated a bit faster than the camaro dont know why...and till this day the coolest fact is that a turbo trans am i think that was 89 is running what an ls1 car is doing today. i think thats bad ass, we been killen everyone for the past 15 yrs...now thats whats up

[bag91]

If only GM kept the muscle......now its all about the Cobalt?? Whats a cobalt anyway?

[Muscletang]

Originally Posted by bag91

If only GM kept the muscle......now its all about the Cobalt?? Whats a cobalt anyway?

Well if you see Dodge and all their luck with the SRT-4 you'd see why Chevy is interested in this market. I think it's a good idea because Motortrend found the Cobalt to be better than the SRT and I'm glad to see that.

Anyway, a Cobalt is a cross between a Cob and an Alt.

[bag91]

Thanks....that explains it....lol

[Muscletang]

Originally Posted by bag91

Whats a cobalt anyway?

I just found out today from, of all places, the movie Ghostbusters 2!

Anyway, Cobalt is an element. I know it was eating you up inside bag but you can now rest in peace.

[bag91]

Originally Posted by Muscletang

I just found out today from, of all places, the movie Ghostbusters 2!

Anyway, Cobalt is an element. I know it was eating you up inside bag but you can now rest in peace.

THANK YOU!!!!!
I was about to go to and jump some Chevy dealership manager and beat it out of him......you saved me a trip.

[philly rs]

my room-mate says cobolt is a color too lol, she said its called cobolt blue...im glad shes a chick because thats a bit feminine like to know

[bag91]

Next time I buy a female something ill make sure its colored cobalt blue.....Thanks for the tip Philly RS
GIRLS BE RUNNING AT ME NOW!!!!

Im going for 400 tonight.....

[philly rs]

lmao thats funny as hell, im sure u will impress some chick with that bit of knowledge!