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02-15-2005, 05:49 AM
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Re: Looking for a Performance Engine...
V6=tork right now, lots of bottom end fun good mid range to. Can also pull a train. likes lots of fuel to .
Gas= Not off idle like a V6 but can come on fast. Maybe to fast for coming out of tight turns.. Maybe course overstearing/power drift. (Not always a bad thing).
4 banger turbo big mid range boost some top end too. STILL turbo lag unless you add just a little gas to cover it up. Things get a little tight and hot under the hood.
Belt driven force draft induction. Never did one?
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02-15-2005, 07:16 PM
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for a noob you seem to know alot... or make it look like it
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02-15-2005, 09:03 PM
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Re: Re: Looking for a Performance Engine...
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V6=tork right now, lots of bottom end fun good mid range to. Can also pull a train. likes lots of fuel to .
Gas= Not off idle like a V6 but can come on fast. Maybe to fast for coming out of tight turns.. Maybe course overstearing/power drift. (Not always a bad thing).
4 banger turbo big mid range boost some top end too. STILL turbo lag unless you add just a little gas to cover it up. Things get a little tight and hot under the hood.
Belt driven force draft induction. Never did one?
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Too much power will not cause oversteer in a FWD car. RWD yes but not all the time FWD definitely not! to get a FWD to oversteer is easy enough if you know what you're doing but the V6's extra weight and power in a fwd car would cause massive understeer meaning the FRONT end of the car will push wide. You can get to oversteer from this point a few ways! Maybe you could tell me how?! I've posted how before!
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02-15-2005, 09:34 PM
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Re: Looking for a Performance Engine...
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Originally Posted by blitz/littledevil
for a noob you seem to know alot... or make it look like it
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that to me or the newbie above ure post?
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02-15-2005, 10:08 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Looking for a Performance Engine...
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Originally Posted by -Jayson-
yeah if he has blow 5 of those, hes just a moron. I mean common, i can understand 1 from bad tunning, but you think after the 1st one you would learn something. hes prolly the kid who kept putting his hand on the hot stove cause he never figured it out.
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"If you don't enjoy working on cars and increasing horsepower with what you got, then go f#*% urself," Watch your mouth in here, no one likes a little cry baby kid who thinks that swearing at people makes them a "Big man" or "Cool" . Grow up.
A betteer engine is the LD9, lower compression, more HP, Cast Iron, responds extremly well to boost, very reliable.
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LD9 is a better engine ha, those things are so damn unreliable it makes me wanna vomit. If they're so reliable, then they wouldn't have the cranks dropping outta them when you rev them. Plus listen call me what you will, but where I live there is few higher end cars, all we got is j-bodies, I work for an automotive stereo, performance and accessories shop. I've seen which engines can stand a good goring. Yes the LD9 is fast as snot and if i was to race a j-body thats the one i'd use, but they don't survive the test of time. And no we don't have many done up ecotecs, only because of warranty issues, you know boost+warranty=screwed if somethin happens. I just think the amount of horsepower you can get out of an ecotec is fairly impressive thats all. And yes I was out of line for telling you to go eff urself, I apologize, but anyone who knows installers, knows we are a breed of our own.
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02-16-2005, 05:08 AM
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Re: Looking for a Performance Engine...
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Too much power will not cause oversteer in a FWD car.
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Yes, your right there. Don't know what I was thinking. But I still deal a lot with RWD. Old flash back sorry.
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but the V6's extra weight and power in a fwd car would cause massive understeer meaning the FRONT end of the car will push wide.
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Yea,To much power from any motor will make a FWD push, right. The heavier V can compound this action. All or most of the blowing from the extra pounds can be over come by setting up the car for the engine. With in some reason. Plowing do to much power. First you never have TO much power. What happen is someone get out of there 95 HP whatever. Then gets into a V6 with 200 plus stuff. Soon they are coming hard out of a tight turn. Punch the pedal like they did before BUT FOR SOME REASON the front end just jump off the road raping it self around a light pole. It just CAN NOT be the driver fault. It must be the car. Bad car bad. Ever car drives different, ever one of them.
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Maybe you could tell me how?! I've posted how before!
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First answer me this. Who died and left you God of this forum?
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02-16-2005, 11:17 AM
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Re: Looking for a Performance Engine...
I'll take a Classic double with fries.. no mayo or pickel.. mmm
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02-16-2005, 08:39 PM
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Re: Re: Looking for a Performance Engine...
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Originally Posted by badron
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Too much power will not cause oversteer in a FWD car.
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Yes, your right there. Don't know what I was thinking. But I still deal a lot with RWD. Old flash back sorry.
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but the V6's extra weight and power in a fwd car would cause massive understeer meaning the FRONT end of the car will push wide.
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Yea,To much power from any motor will make a FWD push, right. The heavier V can compound this action. All or most of the blowing from the extra pounds can be over come by setting up the car for the engine. With in some reason. Plowing do to much power. First you never have TO much power. What happen is someone get out of there 95 HP whatever. Then gets into a V6 with 200 plus stuff. Soon they are coming hard out of a tight turn. Punch the pedal like they did before BUT FOR SOME REASON the front end just jump off the road raping it self around a light pole. It just CAN NOT be the driver fault. It must be the car. Bad car bad. Ever car drives different, ever one of them.
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Maybe you could tell me how?! I've posted how before!
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First answer me this. Who died and left you God of this forum?
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Nothing I said would lead anyone to believe I thought I was god! All Iwas doing was correcting something that you had put. Without an LSD and full suspension set-up. An FWD car will not oversteer just under power. that is what I was saying! I was merely testing to see if you were someone who knew what they were talking about or one of the many people I come accross, some here some other forums who act like they know but what they write doesn't ring true. To be hionest that last line was a bit out of line! I'm not quite sure why I wrote that! I'm not into riling anybody up! If you made a mistake by putting something you didn't mean then ok. But it still needed to posted as a mtter of iformation for the people out there that don't know! The other things I meant to put but for some reason didn't was that nearly all cars nowadays, bar supercars and some sports cars have chassis tuned for understeer which is safer and easir to control than oversteer which takes some skill!
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02-17-2005, 03:08 AM
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Re: Re: Looking for a Performance Engine...
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I'll take a Classic double with fries.. no mayo or pickel.. mmm
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I'll have the Bacon double with everything..... Fries.... down with onion rings..... >.>. and a coke. or pepsi.... pepsi's better...
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02-17-2005, 08:10 AM
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Re: Re: Looking for a Performance Engine...
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that to me or the newbie above ure post?
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newbie above none directed to you
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02-17-2005, 10:23 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Looking for a Performance Engine...
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I was merely testing to see if you were someone who knew what they were talking about or one of the many people I come accross
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LMAO
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02-17-2005, 10:58 AM
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Re: Looking for a Performance Engine...
^^^^ Ditto... lol.. i have an idea to have some fun with people on here and test if they know their stuff. We should bring back that post which someone started asking questions. One would answer and create a new one.. good old fun.. man that was a looong time ago
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02-17-2005, 12:38 PM
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Re: Looking for a Performance Engine...
i was laughing cause thats what people usually say when they get proven wrong or make a mistake, so they say that to try and cover it up and save face.
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02-17-2005, 08:39 PM
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Re: Re: Looking for a Performance Engine...
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i was laughing cause thats what people usually say when they get proven wrong or make a mistake, so they say that to try and cover it up and save face.
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I wasn't wrong tho!!!!!!!!!!
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02-20-2005, 08:02 AM
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Re: Looking for a Performance Engine...
you can build a nice,strong and steetable 2.4 for a few grand. thats what im doin for my 98 z24.-bore it out,use lighter internals,some good head work (maybe 2.3 h.o.head),remove the balance shafts and some good camsand your over 250 hp,add some spray and your pushing over 300+ h.p. or more. backed w/a good getrag and 2-stage clutch and you could get low 14's/high 13's in a n/a car and still be able to take long road trips reliably.... thats just my 2-cents anyway...
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