subzero temps and 93 s-10 wont start

[s10bajadan]

How old is your battery?
The cold realy brings down the cold cranking amps and if the battery isnt putting out what is should befor you factor in the temp you have a dead battery.

If its 2 of 3 yrs old replace it.I would replace with a higher cranking amps then what you have now.

[dmbrisket 51]

and settle for nothing less then 550 ccr (cold crank amps) the hight the number the better!

[xtrememeasures10]

Instead of the space heater which could possibly start a fire and burn down your house. Use a block heater.
Also have you had your battery tested? Ive seen brand new
batteries with less cca's than batteries that were 4-5 years old.
Go to an autoparts place and get it tested. If its bad see if someone will warranty it. Interstate warrantys there batteries no matter where or who bought it. Even without a recipt. I dont know what kind yours is but try that.

[BlazerLT]

Originally Posted by Mikado14

So, there is no friction with the molecules of air at 1000 mph and the metal doesn't heat from this friction? And when the shuttle reenters the upper atmosphere, which certainly is much colder then 30 degrees, the Columbia should have never broke up from a tile failure?

Stop nit picking Mikado, you know what I am talking about.

Wid chill is not felt by anything but a human.

Anyone arguing otherwise is a moron that needs to learn something about science.

[OverBoardProject]

A good, properly charged battery shouldn't ever freeze, even in the Artic. But they always work better when they are warm

Just a hair dryer should get the battery warm enough.

Block heaters require you to pop out a frost plug, and install it into the frost plug hole. If you have easy access to even 1 frost plug hole the job might be easy. But check the book first because some frost plugs have a cylinder sleeve, or something else right behind it.

If you can't remove a frost plug easily don't panic, there is another type of block heater that goes between one of the engine drain plugs, and your heater core.
These block heaters are pricy I just paid $80.00 Canadian, but they actually keep your cab warmer since they are constantly pumping warmer fluid through your heater core.

[BlazerLT]

You are right, the charge of the battery directly relates to its freezing point.

A discharged battery will freeze at a higher temperature than any fully charged battery.

[movin2stereo]

Originally Posted by BlazerLT

Sorry bro, although you are partially true, the minimum anything can go to is the air temperature.

Wind may remove heat quicker, but it will only go as low as the latent temperature of the air.

Wind chill is a "feeling" only felt by humans and nothing else.

If it is 30f out and you are going 100mph, the coldest it can get is 30f.

If it is 30f and you were going a 1000mph, the temperature of the metal will be ....yep,,,,you guessed it.....30f.

At that speed ,I would also have to say the metal would heat up.I also know that you were just using that as an example,so to speak.

[Mikado14]

Originally Posted by BlazerLT

Stop nit picking Mikado, you know what I am talking about.

Wid chill is not felt by anything but a human.

Anyone arguing otherwise is a moron that needs to learn something about science.

I am not nit picking here. Think of what you said about 1000 mph and the metal staying at the ambient temp, that is what I am referring to. What about an air cooled motorcylcle engine sitting still or moving along at 60 mph. The transfer of heat is greater with the flow and volume of air across the surface. It will never be at the ambient temp due to the combustion in the cylinder taking place but it's temp will vary with the flow of air. If the battery is shielded from the wind it will be at the ambient temp, if exposed, the wind will reduce the surface temp. Explain how it can be 34 degrees with a wind chill (I use this term loosely) that is below freezing and you can get black ice on the road surface or on a bridge. Again this is general for there are other factors such as sunlight on the surface.

Secondly, I am only opening the subject to discussion since this is a forum for that purpose, and as usual, you call me a moron and say I need to learn something.

And further, you are correct in the term "wind chill" for it refers to "feeling" which is what inanimate objects lack but is also used to determine the effect of the wind in cooling.

[dmbrisket 51]

blazer is right, nothing will get below actual temp, im not arguin that, and i didnt say it in the first place, but what i did say is that it gets there quicker if the air is recycled constently, thats how insulation works, its keeps air in, where it should be, and the cold (yes i kno there is no such thing as cold, only a lack of heat, dont go there) out, same thing, parking away from the wind against something insulates it, will it reach the temp outside? most deff. but it will take longer...and i may be dead wrong on this one but i admit that, but i think all mamals feel a form of wind chill, just to the human temp wind chill is what it feel like outside, bare assed walken at 4miles per hour, but i beleve all mamals feel the effect of the wind blowing there warming air away from their bodys

[BlazerLT]

Originally Posted by Mikado14

I am not nit picking here. Think of what you said about 1000 mph and the metal staying at the ambient temp, that is what I am referring to. What about an air cooled motorcylcle engine sitting still or moving along at 60 mph. The transfer of heat is greater with the flow and volume of air across the surface. It will never be at the ambient temp due to the combustion in the cylinder taking place but it's temp will vary with the flow of air. If the battery is shielded from the wind it will be at the ambient temp, if exposed, the wind will reduce the surface temp. Explain how it can be 34 degrees with a wind chill (I use this term loosely) that is below freezing and you can get black ice on the road surface or on a bridge. Again this is general for there are other factors such as sunlight on the surface.

Secondly, I am only opening the subject to discussion since this is a forum for that purpose, and as usual, you call me a moron and say I need to learn something.

And further, you are correct in the term "wind chill" for it refers to "feeling" which is what inanimate objects lack but is also used to determine the effect of the wind in cooling.

I never called you a moron, did I, nope, checked again, I did not.

Wind may remove heat away from something faster, but the objects temperature will not drop any lower than air temperature, period.

[Mikado14]

You claim to know the first and second laws of thermodynamics along with entropy. Secondly, heat dissipation calculations specify with or without air movement across the object the calculations are being performed on. That is as far as I will go.

As to calling me a moron, directly, no. However, I did, as you call it, argue by posting, you are calling me a moron.

But your right and I am wrong. Don't argue(read here "post an opposing view") with LT, you might get banned.

[dmbrisket 51]

blazer is not a mean guy by far and is great help most of the time, he just strongly backs up what he says, nothing wrong with that, because he was right, nothing will get below the outside temp, the wind wont make it colder, only feel it, but i never said that, it was a misunderstanding and now were are arguing about something very stupid

[BlazerLT]

Originally Posted by Mikado14

You claim to know the first and second laws of thermodynamics along with entropy. Secondly, heat dissipation calculations specify with or without air movement across the object the calculations are being performed on. That is as far as I will go.

As to calling me a moron, directly, no. However, I did, as you call it, argue by posting, you are calling me a moron.

But your right and I am wrong. Don't argue(read here "post an opposing view") with LT, you might get banned.

Again, I am not picking a fight, I am stating science which is that wind chill is a human condition only.

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/images/afi/windchill.html

I never called oyu a moron and you know that. I stated anyone arguing that windchill was NOT only a human condition is a moron.

Also, I will never ban someone for such a childish reason.

Let's just move on shall we, we are doing nothing for the members by bickering endlessly.

[busa_4]

sorry all i couldnt help but laugh at the 1000mph and 30f thing, so i have to put my 2 cents in. wind chill froze your battery. end of story. charge it up or replace it if it wont hold a charge. as for the 1000mph issue. anything moving at that speed will create wind resistance which in turn is friction which causes heat. back to point at hand. wind chill is the temp at which outside air is reached only during wind. if it is 30 degrees and you have a 15mph wind the air temp at the time of wind is colder. once the wind stops your back at 30 degrees again. humans are not the only ones that experience wind chill. in january, 1994 when i lived in chicago the outside temp was -40 degrees and the wind chill brought the temp down to -80 degrees which was enough to freeze the coolant and oil in my engine.

[BlazerLT]

Originally Posted by busa_4

sorry all i couldnt help but laugh at the 1000mph and 30f thing, so i have to put my 2 cents in. wind chill froze your battery. end of story. charge it up or replace it if it wont hold a charge. as for the 1000mph issue. anything moving at that speed will create wind resistance which in turn is friction which causes heat. back to point at hand. wind chill is the temp at which outside air is reached only during wind. if it is 30 degrees and you have a 15mph wind the air temp at the time of wind is colder. once the wind stops your back at 30 degrees again. humans are not the only ones that experience wind chill. in january, 1994 when i lived in chicago the outside temp was -40 degrees and the wind chill brought the temp down to -80 degrees which was enough to freeze the coolant and oil in my engine.

You must have some ESP if you can definitely claim anything is wrong "END OF STORY" over the internet.

AND YES, HUMAN AND ANIMALS ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO EXPERIENCE WIND CHILL!!!!!

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/wint...second-law.htm

Hahahaha!, wind chill froze my oil in my truck. You kidding right, I certainly hope so.

Give me a break bud, only person that should be laughing here is me. You are arguing out of pure ignorance.

Click the link above and learn something before you start laughing at me.