2007 GTR goes global!

[VQuick]

Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo

the thing is that the VQ35 can make 400whp but for how long?

Probably quite some time. Those low boost figures are recommended by the manufacturers of those turbo and supercharger kits. They sandbag a bit, so that they can offer a warranty. I wouldn't be surprised if close to 10psi is possible.

I6's have consistently been able to make reliable high hp than V6's. 2JZ and the RB26 are perfect examples.

The RB26 and 2JZ are dead. They can't pass emissions anymore. They were long, heavy, and weren't so great for handling. The VQ range offers more displacement and torque with less weight. The engine is also shorter(by about half), which allows for better packaging, weight distribution, and handling. Heck, even the V8 people were fussing over would have those advantages as well.

I just find that the new Skyline shouldn't be called a skyline since it doesn't even resemble the older Skyline. Oh well just my .02

Which older Skyline are you talking about? Like the 350Z, the current Skyline is sticking to its roots. The 240Z was all about simplicity and affordable(normally aspirated!) performance. Then the Zs got fatter, until you ended up with the Z32, with twin turbos and four-wheel steering.
The Skylines were originally a family of sporty sedans and coupes. The current V35 follows that tradition, with more luxury and better performance than ever. Heck, the standard CPV35 Skyline GT350 Coupe managed to lap the Tsukuba circuit faster than an R32 GT-R in Best Motoring. If that isn't progress, I don't know what is.

Smokey of Top Secret and a lot of other tuners are doing the same thing and saying to hell with the retarded VQ35(I doubt the French Company Renault will even read this) and either putting the M45 engine in it or finding used RB26's.

Yeah. Keep in mind Top Secret also put one of those 'retarded VQ35s' in an R34 GT-R.

I thought the Japanese were about honor and tradition and the way of the bushido I guess that theory is totally wrong when it comes to your company.

The way of the bushido? Sounds like you've been watching too many samurai movies. In the modern Japanese business world, it's all about the way of the keiretsu.

[whitetiger777]

I find as time progesses. All these cars are getting bigger and starting to all look the same. I saw the pics of the new GT-R and the new Eclipse all in one day, and to tell you the truth, except for a few suttle difforences, they look about the same. It's like they don't want to have cars that have an individual look to them any more.
As for the Engine going to a V-6. I was under the impression the Inlines carried better torque; and therefore were better and hard ecceleration (Any can argure this point if they actualy know better)
I beleve the previous post was corect in that car companys are comeing out with cars they know will not sell well, so they put on a name every one knows (ie. the new GTO, Eclipse, ect, ect) and hope that the name sells a competly pointless car. I highly doubt we will see tomany of these in any tuner, or import mags.

[whitetiger777]

May I also add as an Eclipse owner, they I would sooner have a 1G or 2G, and never a 3G. Granted, the 3G V6 puts out a little more hp than a stock GSX, but the 1&2Gs can be upgraded a lot easyer, and therefore are more ideal for upgrading. You will hear about someone getting older eclipse up over 400 horse, but the 3Gs never appear anywhere...except in 2Fast2Furious.
I believe this skyline will be about the same. Ment for a rich older man who is forced to buy a family car, but still wants to live the dream of having a race car.

[jmrev]

"you cant teach an old dog new tricks"

[VQuick]

Originally Posted by whitetiger777

All these cars are getting bigger and starting to all look the same. I saw the pics of the new GT-R...

The problem is, there are no pictures of the new GT-R. With the exception of the three and a half year old concept shown by Nissan, nothing you have seen is official. There's really no need to be concerned yet. If you see the second GT-R concept shown this fall at the Tokyo Motor Show and have the same feelings, then you can complain.

As for the Engine going to a V-6. I was under the impression the Inlines carried better torque; and therefore were better and hard ecceleration (Any can argure this point if they actualy know better)

It really depends on who builds the engine. Unless there was an automaker who made both an inline and vee six cylinder engine using the exact same methods, there isn't a good way to compare.

I've heard people compare Nissan's mass-produced VQ35DE with TVR's handbuilt, detuned racing 3.6L Speed Six engine. Even with the advantages of the Speed Six, the VQ35DE isn't far behind. The 350Z currently offers 300hp/260 lb-ft, while the 3.6L Speed Six used in the TVR T350C produces 350hp/290lb-ft. Don't forget the Speed Six is not built with US emission standards in mind. So like I said before, there really isn't a good way to compare.

Edit: I found a manufacturer that has an I6 and V6 of similar displacements. Happens to be Nissan. Although the level of technology is different, you'll see that vee engines are eroding the advantages of inline engines.
RB25DE:190hp
VQ25DD:215hp