Porsche Sucks! - Page 3

gang$tarr · 10-04-2001, 10:21 PM

who goes 20 miles for milk?!

there's a plaza like every couple blocks on any street that doesn't have houses on it, hehe

Jay! · 10-04-2001, 10:26 PM

anyone handicapping the odds on them making this?

gang$tarr · 10-04-2001, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jay@af
anyone handicapping the odds on them making this?

i am.... i'm like 50/50, half of me thinks they're goin to make it and half of me doesn't think so

flylwsi · 10-05-2001, 01:09 AM

i dunno...
they have ALOT of deposits, and not small ones from the US alone. there are people that went to dealers and put 50k down on one, and even if they only made a coupla hundred, there are about that many serious inquiries from what i have read...
i think it is a great possibility...
they built the turbo, and came out with a better version...
hell, subaru gave us a wrx, and mitsu will have an evo for us soon, so anything is possible...
but i definitely see it coming out...

tanjwarrior · 10-26-2001, 11:21 AM

Easy Porsche,
I'll back you up! Especially since I'm a multiple Porsche car owner. I've just been sitting back reading all the SPAM being spouted.

I got to drive a Lambo this summer from an old aquantaince. It was fun, nice, the V12 really kicked some serious HP to the blacktop...but I don't think I'd want one in my driveway.

Just out of curiousity, what exotics has anyone driven to have such strong opinions?

1973 Porsche 914
1978 Porsche 924 (still race it)
1984 Porsche 944 (just sold it)
1979 Porsche 928 (a few car show trophies and my daily driver)

Below are cars I've had the chance to get behind the wheel....

?Year? Lambo Contouch (friends)

1973 Jaguar
1976 MGB
1981 Porsche 911SC
Lotus Esprite (spelling?)
Opel GT
Truimph TR7 (what a fit for my 6'3" frame)
Dodge Viper

I can tell you the good and bad points of each from my opinion and from the owners. I'm not listing Corvettes or a Replicar or two or even some of the Asian stuff.

gang$tarr · 10-26-2001, 05:19 PM

I've driven lots of respectable cars, so i think i have a say, but i don't think i said anything bad about porsche did i? i don't remember anymore

but i've driven:

Dodge Viper
Lamborghini Diablo
couple Porsche 911 carreras
NSX
Ferrari 328 and 308 GTS
also a Ferrari 348

The Diablo was by far the favorite

most of these are just neighbours or friends of neighbours, or friends dad's or friends friends cars

tanjwarrior · 10-26-2001, 06:23 PM

No, no gang$tar...
I wasn't pointing a finger at you...just covering myself for anyone that's been flaming Porsches. Personally, I like alot of the exotics and would drive em. But, from the practical side, there's only a few that I would consider keeping to drive everyday.

I get in such a hurry typing, the beginning of my last post was supposed to be:
Easy on Porsche!

Damn! got to go...the guy is here to cut down my tree in the front yard...darn tree couldn't take the high winds I've had in my area for the last two days.

gang$tarr · 10-26-2001, 07:21 PM

lol, it's been really windy here too, the past 2 days

I agree about that porsche is alot more reliable than Ferrari for example...
you could drive a porsche everyday, no problem

plus it won't cost approx. $6000 to replace a clutch, like on a Diablo

i'm not sure if that's the right number, but it's alot

tanjwarrior · 10-28-2001, 10:59 AM

Agreed!!!
Heck, it's around $1200 for a clutch in my 928 Porsche, but it's worth it!

gang$tarr · 10-29-2001, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by tanjwarrior
Agreed!!!
Heck, it's around $1200 for a clutch in my 928 Porsche, but it's worth it!

if it's for your baby, any price is worth it

crayzayjay · 11-04-2001, 09:10 PM

I think it's very harsh to say that "Porsche sucks".. this is the company that has the best racing record of all time. If that sucks, i dont know what you would have to say about other car companies, including a certain Scuderia Ferrari?
if you dont like Porsches, say so, but try to keep it a little intelligent and constructive. i'm sorry, but comments like that are just stupid.

In mine and many peoples' opinions porsche have made some exquisitely beautiful cars as well as some duffers. but then so have ferrari, look at the 400GT. The Testarossa has aged badly, and even the F50, 550 and 360 have all been called ugly by some Ferrari fanatics. That doesnt say much about their styling, does it. I think they look pretty good, but not as perfect as you would like to think.
Look at Porsche's recent GT concept. Now you cannot say that this car doesnt look anything other than amazing. so no thank you, I think porsche will continue to do their own designing for the future. and quite frankly, im glad. we wouldnt want all cars looking the same now, would we?

cheers
jay

tanjwarrior · 11-05-2001, 04:34 PM

Nowcrayzayjay wrote:
Look at Porsche's recent GT concept. Now you cannot say that this car doesnt look anything other than amazing. so no thank you, I think porsche will continue to do their own designing for the future. and quite frankly, im glad. we wouldnt want all cars looking the same now, would we?

Now that statement I can't argue with. I'm over 40, and the last 15 years has shown that cars are beginning to look alike. As a former mechanic, I could spot a car several blocks away and state the year, brand and model pretty acurately. Now, it's almost impossible except for certain models that still stand out from the rest. The rest, well, they are looking all the same.
But I agree that each company will hopelfully stand by their orginal designs and trademark car lines. Too bad many of the neat domestics now resemble each other. No more personality to many cars...

crayzayjay · 11-05-2001, 07:59 PM

This is an issue that really worries me... Recent cars, especially the heavily produced ones are all begining to look the same.. Everything looks like a Eurobox, or a Japmobile, and quite frankly I dont like it one bit

... even some italian models no longer have the special "personality" that is such an essential ingredient in their recipe..
the 911 lost a lot of character during the transition from 993 to 996.. I almost cried when i saw spy shots of the 996, i prayed it was the usual camouflage to hide what the car would really look like.. although the look has grown on me, it still doesnt compare to the truly delightful 993.. the 996 Turbo looks so insipid compared to the 993 Turbo.
now THAT is one "horny" looking car!!

cheers
jay

tanjwarrior · 11-07-2001, 11:12 AM

Yeah,
I started saying the same thing about a decade ago or so. Today, they do look alike.
But the companies must make a profit and this is what the public likes and wants. The auto companies go to great pains to style and design cars that the masses find appealing. I wish I could get into one of those groups chosen to view a new car during styling tests. I miss some of the rough edges that defined that vehicle from the others.
If we think it's getting bad now, what another ten years. So far, the front and rear grilles, badges and logos are the only identifying markings for some.
But getting back on track for this forum of "Porsche Sucks", I will disagree with many. The Porsche company has provided aerodynamically superior vehicles since 1950. The rounded lines and flowing bodies are the companies trademark. Fast cars with workmanship second to none.
I'm not going to cut down Jags or Ferraris or any other car companies. Each company builds its line of autos to fit into a certain niche of the automotive world. What many fo the upper-echlon companies are building today are outstanding and laying the foundation for future generations. I won't argue that a Ferrari isn't faster than a Porsche. Who cares? I can't drive a Lambo or Ferrari in the Iowa winters! But any of my Porsches, I put snow tires on and off I go!
I definitely won't argue who has the best racecars out on the tracks. Each company fielding in whatever race has some outstanding machines! I'm impressed by the Ford Focus racing team in the FIA rallies. I wasn't paying attention to racing for ages, but I'm getting caught up and Ford has impressed me (I'm not a Ford fan from working on the domestic vehicles for people at a local car dealership). But each season the companies field cars that are untested and must work out the bugs. This work is put into the cars we drive today and tomorrow.
I applaude Porsche and all the other companies for their efforts. But for the everyday working mans driving exotic...give me a Porsche!

crayzayjay · 11-07-2001, 05:13 PM

It's a shame that the consumer now decides what a car looks like. All you get is a bland compromise. Whatever happened to bold car design?

I can't remember which one it was, but one of the very famous Italian car designers summed it up perfectly when he said " Who knows more about car design? Me, or the public?"

I think we all know the answer to that one

cheers
jay

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