Porsche Sucks!

[Seb928S@af]

Originally posted by enzo@af
Well, maybe. It's the only porsche model car I have. I think they look really good. Sure, they aren't a blazing little roadster, but they're pretty quick and look pretty good (in their subtlety). But, seriously. Despite their performance, they just look like a beetle. Seriously. And, when you think about it....
Beetle-->356-->early 911------->996 911's
And, on top of that, I really just don't find 928's, 914's, 924's, very attractive at all...944's aren't too bad.

I think Porsche should introduce something new...that's not an SUV. The Carrerra GT is a step in the right direction. It's got good looks (not quite pininfarina, but good), but it's just too damn unattainable. They need something a little flashier, maybe between the price range of the 911 and boxter. Something mid-engined, 2-seater, coupe/targa, and with some style...not just a bubble.

Enzo that's why they have a Boxster S in the middle of those. lol

[enzo@af]

That's a good point, but they could have just one "model"...a boxster, boxster J, boxster Q, Boxster RSTLNE for all I care, and it would still be one model, you know? I just think they need to break from the traditional styling they have and produce something (while still distinctly porsche) that looks different, and thus good (good BECAUSE it's not the same thing, over and over and over and over). I mean, look at Ferrari. You can always tell something is Ferrari, but the 360, 550, and F50 don't look alike. The 360 and the 348 look similar, but not quite as similar as a 993 and 996 (or a 356 996, for that matter). Do you see my point? Basically, tradition is important, but too much is a bad thing.

*Disclaimer* I think this doesn't quite say exactly what I want, so take it with a grain of salt...or several grains...maybe even a tablespoon of rock salt.

[Seb928S@af]

Originally posted by enzo@af
That's a good point, but they could have just one "model"...a boxster, boxster J, boxster Q, Boxster RSTLNE for all I care, and it would still be one model, you know? I just think they need to break from the traditional styling they have and produce something (while still distinctly porsche) that looks different, and thus good (good BECAUSE it's not the same thing, over and over and over and over). I mean, look at Ferrari. You can always tell something is Ferrari, but the 360, 550, and F50 don't look alike. The 360 and the 348 look similar, but not quite as similar as a 993 and 996 (or a 356 996, for that matter). Do you see my point? Basically, tradition is important, but too much is a bad thing.

*Disclaimer* I think this doesn't quite say exactly what I want, so take it with a grain of salt...or several grains...maybe even a tablespoon of rock salt.

Enzo you like ferrari as I don't and I really don't care about those death traps What keeps Porsche going to the people who buy them the fan of Porsche most like the looks of it cause they selling near 50,000 cars a year. The looks of the Porsche is liked by the Porsche fans and owners. Ok now lets talk about the Great Fait company of ferrari I perfer the look of Porsches over Ferraris but that's in my eyes I can't see for you. If you like the looks of ferraris that's what you like so to a Porsche fan Porsches look like ferraris in your eyes. Read slowly and carefully a few times. I'm not trying to start a war on about what is better just stating a point.

[enzo@af]

I see your point, I just think that a lot of people find them drab because they all look so similar (traditional). I guess different strokes, for different folks, huh?

[gang$tarr]

i like how they look..... and i'd consider buyin one if i had the cash.... but ferrari is still better, heheh

[Porsche]

Hey Seb, when did you come back? I like your thinking Enzo, your talking about some thing like a revolutionary Porsche with a 3.0-3.4L Engine (The new 996 has a 3.6 so it doesn't conflict) and a should be traditional rear-engined 2+2 Coupe, Cabrio and turbo. I would want a Turbo cause some people would want a Turbo over a 911 but Some people might want a 911 and not the Model "X" Turb, Porsche is an Acquired taste. As for a name I'm lost maybe the Porsche 711 model No# 9901. Bear with me hear for a second, the 711 Would sound like a detuned or Smaller 911 but bigger than a Boxster the name is kinda gay though being related to 7 eleven Convience stores and the 9901 would be the model code like 964 and 951, I chose that because after the 996, 2000 sounds so, Honda. add another 9 and give it time. after another 50 years you might be seeing a 9996 the 100 year-old 911 model still selling in Hover-space car form. That's just my Opinion but you got a good Idea Enzo, I would have personally said a Entry level model priced at 25K US but that would make it seem like Porsche is Desperate, like Jaguar.I would mind seeing a future Porsche 9.11 the "Econo Porsche", Four door hatchbck with a 1.7L Flat 3.

[tanjwarrior]

Ferrari???!!!

Well, if you had the money I guess buying one is OK. But where do you drive it? It's such a specialty vehicle that no one does!!! The few that do you guys should talk to. They don't drive them daily as to keep them out of the shop. Too complicated and not made to be driven to work and the grocery store everyday.
Porsche is more of the everyday type driving vehicle. Priced lower and made for all kinds of weather.

I'd like a McLaren or Lambo also...but they would only sit in the garage! Give me a vehicle I can drive to work or across the country on vacation.

[gang$tarr]

Tony Montana buys that porsche you have, in Scarface i forget what it's called

[Porsche]

Either a 928 GTS or S4.

[tanjwarrior]

I don't know what they drive but it is probably one of the later models. Mine is a second production year (1979)

[gang$tarr]

well the movie was made in like 1983

[flylwsi]

im peeking cautiously in here.
if porsche sux, why are there so many on the road? b/c they can be driven in tons of driving conditions? vs the ferrari that only comes out on the nicest of nice days?
they are boring b/c you see them. ferraris are like vipers. if you dont see it, it always looks good if it is exotic.
i would also rather have a car that can be driven daily.
i guess that is why my friend sold his 94 ferrari targa for a turbo porsche... nice white one w/ the whale tail and some big chrome 18in 3 pc turbo wheels... and it is hella faster than a ferrari. and more comfy. and it wont cry if it sees the rain. and neither will the owner. you can own both. one to look at (starts w/ an f)and one to thrash on and drive all the time b/c you can (p car here...)

[tanjwarrior]

I'm going to try to tip-toe around this and not start a war myself.
MOST Porsche models can be driven year round in all kinds of weather. It's an exotic but a working type of automobile that is made to be driven to the store for groceries or on the autobahn at 160 KPH.
Ferrari made several automobile models that could take the daily driving with only regular maintainance. But many vehicles produced were made to just go fast. That kind of vehicle needs constant maintainance that most people don't provide.

Personally, I love most vehicles that Europe puts out. I've had the privilege and pleasure to get behind the wheel of many machines. But, like everyone else, I have my favorites and non-favorites. Since I live in the middle of the U.S. I need a vehicle that can be driven in 96 degree summer heat or -15 below zero winters. Porsches have been my choice from my mechanical experiences.

But I would love to have a Lamborgini, Ferrari or Lotus in my garage. I'm leaving out some vintage speed demons like a Cobra 289 FIA or McLaren but where to drive them? My dream car would be a Ford/Shelby Daytona coupe...but it's a dream. The closest I've gotten to having one is 1/20 scale on my desk. I like the body lines. Nothing wrong with Ferrari, but I prefer the pre-80's vehicles. The smooth lines really say something about the cars. Some of this new stuff (last 10 years) is looking like everyone else's stuff.

[gang$tarr]

Originally posted by tanjwarrior
or on the autobahn at 160 KPH.

or 160mph

[Porsche]

LOL,

"I'll just go get some Milk from the corner store, be back in 5 min!"
"But's it's 20 Miles away!"
"In my car it's more like 5"