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Old 03-21-2004, 10:05 PM   #1
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Supra TT vs 3000GT VR4

I know iam in a supra forum so i expect alittle bit of bias oppinons but i just want to know who will win? I never incountered a supra yet. My car is pretty much stock except for just the basic like K/N cone filter and boost controller. Iam pretty sure i can take one off the line. But if iam on the highway or stop light to stop light who's gonna win me or the supra?
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Old 03-27-2004, 09:30 PM   #2
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Re: Supra TT vs 3000GT VR4

It depends if it's stock or not if it,stock to you should win.
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Old 04-20-2004, 10:40 PM   #3
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Re: Supra TT vs 3000GT VR4

I have a supra rz-s tt would you like to race me and find out? 1/4, 1/2, and then top speed? If you do respond please. thanks
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Re: Supra TT vs 3000GT VR4

The Supra would definatley take a 300GT VR-4. Well not the base 6cyl. The TT would take a VR-4.

But the base 6 would take a regular 300GT so it is fine.

Supra wins in both cases.

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Old 04-25-2004, 05:18 AM   #6
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Re: Re: Supra TT vs 3000GT VR4

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I have a supra rz-s tt would you like to race me and find out? 1/4, 1/2, and then top speed? If you do respond please. thanks
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Re: Re: Supra TT vs 3000GT VR4

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The Supra would definatley take a 300GT VR-4. Well not the base 6cyl. The TT would take a VR-4.

But the base 6 would take a regular 300GT so it is fine.

Supra wins in both cases.

Not really...... From a stop the VR-4 will almost always win because it's four wheel drive, and stock they both have about the same power, so traction wins, I haven't seen those to cars race from a roll so I wouldnt know personally
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Re: Supra TT vs 3000GT VR4

to burst the VR4's bubble, stock for stock, the supra is going to win. Granted AWD does play a bid factor, but TQ and HP play a bigger factor which the supra has more than the VR4. The VR4 will win the 60ft and that's a bout it, the Supra TT was the fastest stock car of it's age until the evo and the wrx came out, but I might be mistakened on the wrx and evo.
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Re: Supra TT vs 3000GT VR4

YOU ARE WRONG!!! the vr4 and the supra have the exact amount of hp and the exact amount of tq.

vr4 320hp 315tq

supra 320hp 315tq
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Re: Supra TT vs 3000GT VR4

Look at the car and driver website and look up the articles yourself, They rated the Supra higher than the VR4. Car and driver doesn't go all out with the cars they drive, but the driver who drove both at the time rated the supra higher than the VR4. You also have to factor in HP to weight ratio and other things, but overall the supra is faster stock.
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Re: Supra TT vs 3000GT VR4

i never said it wasn't faster, i said there hp and tq numbers are the same. and a supra vs a vr4 is more a drivers race no matter how you look at it. i've looked at c/d and they have the same numbers everyone else does 320 and 315 just like the vr4. you might be thinkin of teh 1st gen vr4's that had 300hp and 305tq but after 93 it went up to 320hp and 315tq, so that might be what your looking at
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Re: Supra TT vs 3000GT VR4

traction is not a problem with supras unless you launch it. my supra is stock and it hooks up every time. the vr4 is a fat ass (even more than a supra) so that hurts the acceleration. car and driver said the supra was faster than the vr4 and road and track said the same. i have raced a vr4 on the hwy and he got spanked. vr4s are nice cars what with all the features they have but i have heard a lot of tranny problems (typical of mitsubishi) and they just dont have the same sports car feel and potential of the supra.
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Old 04-27-2004, 01:09 AM   #14
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well your right in a lot of ways, the vr4 has gone up to 750hp which is not lame at all, but nothing close to the supra. all around performance the supra is faster than the vr4, for one its a highway monster but the vr4 is set with very high gearing, so its alot faster than most think, yes heavy but, powerful. in the 1/4 mile its basically a toss up. i believe it was moter trend that tested them both and they both ran a 13.6, it was a tie between the 2. it really all depends on the driver when it comes down to the 1320
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Old 05-02-2004, 08:52 AM   #15
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Who said VR4 is turbo-charged. I know some say that meanign twin turbo, but it sounded like you were saying single. Supra is twin also. 3.0L Inline six twin turbo (2JZ-GTE). 3000GT runs a Twin turbo V6. 4WD does not really help on a launch. If anything it is worse. The front tires get alought of slippage (loss of power) because of the weaight transfer to the rear. This is why all competative drag cars (besides the import stuff) are RWD. Plus the Supra makes its power at a lower RPM than the 3000GT. So the ones with a 6 speed will be even more deadly.
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Supra : http://www.fast-autos.net/toyota/97toyotasupra.html
3KGTVR4 : http://www.fast-autos.net/mitsubishi...shi3000gt.html
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