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04-13-2005, 03:25 AM
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Re: GM is A JOKE!
Buy used
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04-13-2005, 08:39 AM
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#77
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AF Enthusiast
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: south, Ohio
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Re: GM is A JOKE!
Actually buying used is not a bad deal. Save 50% on a two year old low mileage car that has had the initial defects fixed, someone else had the nightmare of getting the service department do the warranty repairs. Still get a very decent car if you shop smart and the vehicle would probably look like new too. It's a shame though, the American Dream is a new car and a house in the country or something like that, but these days that new car sure can be a nightmare. We've been buying new GM since 1977, our next will be a non-GM or a used one for sure. That's a radical departure for me.
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05-15-2005, 09:58 AM
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#78
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AF Newbie
Join Date: May 2005
Location: NJ, New Jersey
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I agree with GM is a Sh*t Company. I have a 2003 Chevy Cav. LS. The car runs Great, get good Gas Mileage, Great with Vision. I change the oil every 7000 miles as GM States. I use only Syn. oils( Amsoil, Mobil 1). The last oil change( 72,345 Miles) I notice White specs in the oil. Oil have a Light Choc Milk look to it.( I'm thinking Head Gasket) I called the dealer where I bought the car and asked if the Head GAsket is under Warrenty. He said Yes. ( I brought the extended Warrrenty for up to 120,000 miles.) He then Said I'm not under warrenty because They have not serviced the car. I told him I do all the Servicing. That is not good enought. Screw them, I'll buy a Toyota or Honda or Hyundi.
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05-15-2005, 07:12 PM
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AF Enthusiast
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Location: south, Ohio
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Re: GM is A JOKE!
Seems like any excuse they can come up with to refuse a repair, they'll use it. Consider that dealer servicing would have nothing to do with a head gasket, and the coolant was not due for changing at this point.
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06-11-2005, 10:45 PM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: kc, Missouri
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i'm a new member, and i found this thread kind of funny... i used to be a finance guy at a huge gm dealership here in k.c. (i quit i figured the bad karma was bound to get me sooner or later)... anyway yes it is true gm cars suck... now the trucks are a differant thing. what people need to realize is that gm makes the vast majority of their money from truck sales, but due to CAFE (corporate average fuel economy) laws they need to sell fuel efficient vehicles i.e. cars. they are a means to an end... that being said, i own a brand new pontiac, but you can bet your butt i also bought an extended warranty (yes they really do pay off). the way i look at it, any idiot knows a honda will generaly be more reliable than a pontiac, but they also cost considerably more (especially with the gms thing they're doing now) it's a total cost thing pontiac with warranty < honda....
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06-11-2005, 10:50 PM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: kc, Missouri
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Re: GM is A JOKE!
stinky 2000 what kind of extended warranty did you buy... i might know someone.
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06-25-2005, 03:04 PM
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Banned
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Re: Re: GM is A JOKE!
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Originally Posted by MexSiR
GM is a piece of shit period. No quality. Look at the corvettes interior for example, fucking ugly. Gm sucks!
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I don't care for a lot of their cars, but they are improving.
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Pontiac won the 24 Hours of Daytona this year.
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Two factory-backed Corvette C6-Rs went 1-2 at the 24 Hours of Le Mans this year despite the best efforts from two factory-backed Aston Martin DBR9s, one Ferrari 575 GTC, and several Ferrari 550s.
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06-25-2005, 07:15 PM
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Banned
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Location: Portland, Oregon
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Re: Re: GM is A JOKE!
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Originally Posted by tiburocks
Yeah... American cars sure do sux
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How does a Duesenberg suck?
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Made in the USA
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06-25-2005, 07:53 PM
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Banned
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Location: Portland, Oregon
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Re: GM is A JOKE!
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Originally Posted by Century 2000
GM cannot build, nor engineer cars.
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So GM can't build the 2006 Corvette Z06 nor engineer it?
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New Corvette Z06
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06-26-2005, 11:09 AM
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Now who on this good green earth in the middle class would buy one of those cars for a daily driver?
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06-27-2005, 02:13 PM
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Banned
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What car?
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07-08-2005, 09:43 PM
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AF Regular
Join Date: May 2005
Location: McKinney, Texas
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2005 Corvette Z06 or a Duesenberg
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08-05-2005, 11:25 PM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: beverly hills, California
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GM is crap....even the new cars...seats are "like a rock" and...just fall apart. The other day a newer cadillac catera drove by me while i was filling up my truck, and the sounds coming from it, sheesh. And my dads 05 colorado, it sprung a leak in the 4x4 thing, and anyways, leaked and....my dad used the 4x4 and..wrecked at, and gm wouldnt repair it, it costed my dad a little over a k.............sheesh..................... gm.....
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08-06-2005, 08:01 AM
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AF Fanatic
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Marion, Ohio
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Re: GM is A JOKE!
Duesenburgs are awesome!
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08-06-2005, 02:50 PM
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AF Regular
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: brunswick, Ohio
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Re: Re: GM is A JOKE!
i my self am a huge GM fan, i have a 92 pontiac bonny thats i gotta admit really crappy on the out side, but for a 92, it runs incredibly well, i think every one here needs to lighten up!, thats what think
lets say
2003 dodge neon srt-4
0-30: 2.3
0-120: 20
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2003 Honda s2000
0-30: 2.3
0-120: 26.5
i got this from carstats.com, they only had the 0-30and 0-120 for the s2000, so thats alli got for the neon, and it looks like a GM came out in front of the honda!
say any thing yopu want this is what i found and im stickin to it!
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