The Evo VII, is it any good??

[phatdex]

too heavy? The WRX is the same weight and the evo has a far superior chassis. WHo is driving the mitsubishis? No one really special. It is more about the team and driver than the car in rallies.
And makkinen would only have left for money, pure and simple.
He was going just as well in the evos as he is now in the wrxs.
This has nothing to do with the road car tho.
Rent any jap comparison vcd and u will see the evo has been hands down better than the sti ever since 92 when the first evo came out.
fact, wrx's are considered crap in japan. Only outside countries have embraced the wrx when there has been no access to better cars such as the GTR or EVOS.
And u guys only got the wrx in 2000 didnt u. haha, just in time for the ugly one!

[neilex]

Another thing.... the Impreza World Rally Car differs GREATLY from the road going WRX. The Evo 7 is alot closer in every aspect to the EVO 7 WRC than the Impreza WRX is to the Impreza WRC.

I had an impreza WRX before the evo 7 and believe me, there is absolutly no comparison. The EVO out shines the impreza by miles!!

The Subaru suffers from bad understeer when you try to accelerate around tight corners. The Evo just turns even tighter as you put the boot down... As if its on rails.

[MorrisTheChief]

I've noticed every person here who has claimed to have driven both evo6 and evo7 prefers the 7....doesn't that tell you something? don't listen to the shallow bitches chasing after the evo6 due to its looks who haven't even driven the evo7, you can always get a kit or even design a kit yourself if it means that much to you. evo7 is superior in every way in my opinion. it doesn't look insanely fast, so you'll get more challenges...even though it is insanely fast. who cares if it weighs 130 pounds more than the 6 if it's still faster. that's the goal of weight reduction right? go faster ya bitch, get an evo7.

and all you little ladies complaining about the WRC......are you racing in it? are you so empathetic that you can actually feel makkinen's thoughts? fuck off with saying he joined subaru purely for money. you didn't call the guy the day after and ask him why he did it, did you? if you did I'm sorry, if you didn't fuck off. don't be such an assuming little bastard. I personally don't give a shit. mitsu will come across some young driver with potential and he'll be even better than makkinen over time. and then subaru might offer him tons of money and he might accept, but that's not for me to tell because I don't know him and I'm not an assuming little bastard. evo7's are the shit....evo8's......well I'm sure they could help the emissions with a little more time put into developing the computer for it, so they're just being lazy bitches and semi-screwing because they don't want to wait to start taking american dollars.

Anyway, this is my first post, hoped you little whiney women liked it. I'm joining the air force, I'm getting an evo8 in 2004/5 and putting 20-25k into it right away. I'm going to be the fastest thing on the street. I will eventually be faster than that street legal supra I read about that does very high 8's, I'm 18 years old right now. I'll be making 130k my third year in the AF, a lot of that's going into my evo8. you all WILL eat my exhaust if we happen to pull side-by-side. Peace.

oh ps. I drive a 2001 honda civic hx........it's my dad's car.....this is what inspires me to become the fastest thing on the road (the slowness of the car I drive now) therefore I have an advantage...although only a slight advantage to you slow girls driving your little OZ rallys.....god those suck (that is just my opinion, no need to get all menstrual on me or anything). peace.

[phatdex]

wtf? LOL
I was just trying to say the WRC has nothing to do with whether wrx or evo 7 is better.
I dunno why WRC ever got brought up.

[Chris]

MorrisTheChief; we do not need people like you here on AF. If someone needs to resort to petty name calling to make a point, then you are not welcome, we prefer to have people with whom we can have intelligent converstions.

MorrisTheChief=banned

[gti1689]

This debate has been very interesting for me to read because all of you are supposedly evo enthusiasts. I know I have no place in this forum and my opinions will most likely be ridiculed if they don't conform with your ideas. I am a newbie and I have a 2001 Volkswagen Gti VR6. I know that any Evo can wipe the floor with my car at a drag strip or around the track, but I will atempt to share my "ideas" with all of you.

I think the Evo8 is as much of an Evo as the previous generations, but it has "evolved" into a better car. I don't know where the weight stats for the new 8 were found, but I suspect that they are those of the US version. US saftey regulations are the main cause behind this tradgedy, but the good part is that we Americans can experience the Evo. The dabate for superiority between the Evo 6 and the 8 is a matter that cannot be truly resolved until one drives the two cars in a direct comparison. The 6 is an excellent car, but I feel that the 8 hasn't had a chance to prove itself yet. Finally, the rallying issue will be answered when the Evo 8 is integrated into the Mitsubishi team, but until then one can only speculate about the outcome.

I am a huge fan of all Evo's and I hope all of you don't take this post the wrong way!

Cheers!

[neilex]

As far as I know the evo 8 will be a slightly enhanced version of the evo 7.... the differences being a sixth gear and slightly different body styling. Dont know what the power output for the US version will be though! I know that here in Ireland we will be able to order the 8 in from Japan by March or April but I think I'll stick to the 7 that I have. Believe me.... all you US enthusiasts.... If you're buying an 8 when it becomes available you are in for one hell of a ride!!!! It will become your pride and joy, your prized possesion..... THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE!!!! Well... I'm getting a bit carried away here, sorry!

By the way, Golf VR6 is a VERY sweet car, I was always a fan of the Golf, especially in VR6 form... There is actually a golf in the UK with 2 VR6 engines, one front one back and they're both turbo charged WITH NOS!!!! Crazy Sh*t!

[HobieKopek]

The Evolution 8 has been debuted in SCCA Pro Rally and did quite well for the record.

As far as I'm concerned no car in the Evolution line on the whole has been a step back.

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[HobieKopek]

Originally posted by neilex
As far as I know the evo 8 will be a slightly enhanced version of the evo 7.... the differences being a sixth gear and slightly different body styling. Dont know what the power output for the US version will be though! I know that here in Ireland we will be able to order the 8 in from Japan by March or April but I think I'll stick to the 7 that I have. Believe me.... all you US enthusiasts.... If you're buying an 8 when it becomes available you are in for one hell of a ride!!!! It will become your pride and joy, your prized possesion..... THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE!!!! Well... I'm getting a bit carried away here, sorry!

US market will be getting 5spd trannies and will not have AYC or ACD whereas j-spec models will have all of the above. I'm assuming Euro spec will be the same or closer to j-spec. At any rate, it is garaunteed to be one hell of a car at one hell of a price.

[esco]

I don't know why people are whining about the tranny, if they knew better the 5spd is a stronger tranny anyways.

[neilex]

I would personally prefer 5 spd.... Its a bit strange the way they're leaving out the ACD and AYC for US versions! Anyone know why this is?

[phatdex]

I would say it is purely to get the car to u guys as cheaply as possible. Cost would be the only factor.
Sounds almost as if u guys are getting the RS model. Except u get the brembos.

[esco]

well what matters is its here and at it's price its still a bargain considering whats out there.

[Twist]

The Evo VIII is also supposed to be lighter than the VII.

[esco]

supposed to but its not, its a bit bigger as we all know, but still its here and you can't find any other awd car comparable to its performance to price ratio.