99 4cyl 2.2L Loud whining noise when cold

[corvair]

Try this. remove the 2 belts (power steering and alt.) one at a time. and start the car. that will tell you if it is the alt or the power steering pump. the water pump is driven by the timing belt so there is no danger of over heating.

as for the sludge problem go and get yourself a new valve cover gasket and pull the valve cover your self. that will tell you for sure. Jus make sure that the new gasket is installed in the cover by tapping on it lightly with a small hammer to make sure it is even. then make sure that you apply 4 dabs of silicone sealer at the cam cap corners. the tourque spec is 33 ft lbs. and start from the middle two then out a little at a time until you get 33 ft lbs.

and as for smoke on start up you need valve seals. I've replaced lots of them just for that reason and every time it repaired the problem.

If the engine is sludged toyota will remove it and replace any dammaged parts but you will have to bring it to them it isn't a recall it is called a SPA.

you will have to show some sort of record of at least 2 oil changes or oil and filter you have bought within the last year.

If the engine is sludged they SHOULD replace the valve seals also when the sludge is removed. They should also do a compression test to see if the rings are stuck. Make sure that the PCV valve is replaced also.

Camry, Sienna, 4 runner and the Avalon are the only ones covered under the SPA. And it doesnt matter if the car is under the factory warrentee or not.

And I don't think extended warrentee covers sludge.

As for your oil change at every 3k it doesn't matter. I desludged a 4 runner at 40k and the customer ALLWAYS had the oil changed at 3k at our dealership and it was sludged to the point where the oil would not return to the pan from the heads (causing the engine to smoke threw the valve guides via the valve seals) and starved the lower end of oil and toyota replaced the short block free of charge.

IF the dealer that you are dealing with is giving you a hard time about this the next time you go there get the service advisors card and ask them for the 800 number to call AND tell them you need to be informed when the factory Rep. will be at that dealership so you can talk to him or her about the problem.
I asure you that will get things going.

Make a big stink about it and get names of all the people you deal with.

Mr.Toyota does NOT like to have unhappy customers and really doesn't want employees that refuse to kiss your ass.

Hope this helps

[Brian R.]

Originally Posted by corvair

As for your oil change at every 3k it doesn't matter. I desludged a 4 runner at 40k and the customer ALLWAYS had the oil changed at 3k at our dealership and it was sludged to the point where the oil would not return to the pan from the heads (causing the engine to smoke threw the valve guides via the valve seals) and starved the lower end of oil and toyota replaced the short block free of charge.

This very rare and not a good example of what happens with regular maintenance. There must have been another problem associated with this engine that was not taken care of. Changing your oil every 3k is conservative and should never result in sludge build up in a 4Runner. Camrys and 4Runners have nothing in common with regard to sludge. Totally different problems with each engine.

[corvair]

Wrong. The sluge problem has happened to ALL of the cars I had listed that have had ALL of their maintenance done at our dealership 5K, 10K, 15K
etc etc.

If what you are saying is the case how would you explain the stack of Lexus V8 short blocks in our warrentee return area.

The maintenance on these cars is FREE.

At any given time there could be up to 5 sludge engines being worked on at one time.

There was no OTHER problem with this engine.

[corvair]

And Lexus uses synthetic oil only.

[Brian R.]

No, right, 4Runners don't have this problem. Problems with Lexus engines and Camry engines have nothing to do with 4Runner engines.

If your right about 4runners, there should be hundreds of other posts that complain about sludge in a 4Runner where the owner has maintained the engine with frequent oil changes. Where are they? Find some. I am interested. You won't find them because they don't exist. It is easy to prove me wrong, but not by talking.

[corvair]

your right i'm wrong feel better now?

[Brian R.]

Prove me wrong...

Talk just don't get it. If there is a problem, I want to know about it.

[smarisetty]

Hi Corvair,

Guess what, I took my smoking Toyota at startup to the dealer and he said that Toyota is willing to pay for the parts worth $700 and I should pay for the dealer labor of $1300. They are going to change the valve seals and gasket.

Any suggestions. $1300 for labor seems like a fortune. They are not willing to cover this problem under the engine sluge TSB.

sm

[smarisetty]

HI,

After the dealer replaced the value seals, in about a month I am getting check engine light. The dealer says that he we charge me $120 again for diagnonsis and credit me if it were a problem due their earlier repair.

Any suggestions on how I can make sure it is related to their repair, without spending $120. If is unrelated, I would rather fix it myself.

thanks
sm