10-30-2003, 02:49 PM
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Re: Best Sleepers
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Originally Posted by OoNismoO
fastest civic ive seen at a track was an 11 sec crx, it had a turbocharged integra motor in it, and it was street legal. i ve also heard about, but never saw at a track, an all motor 11 sec crx with a b18c in it, the guy took everything out to reduce weight, and replace a lot of parts with lighter ones. this was also street legal.
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too bad that CRX isn't street legal here in CA...
Is it ok for other states to swap in dohc motors in cars who came with sohc motors from the factory?
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10-30-2003, 05:05 PM
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yada yada yada
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Re: Re: Best Sleepers
as long as the engine going in is from a car that is newer than the car it's going in, and it was made in the states, you can put whatever engine you want in any car.
that's whats so great about the dodge colt / mitsu mirage swap, swapping in a '98 eclipse gst engine in it is 100% legal and will pass emissions. you gotta love that swap.
http://www.turbomirage.com - more info
go check out the video clips. awesome little cars.
wanna watch these guys laugh like lil girls after they beat a skyline?
http://www.kentallman.com/lilevo/lilevo_skyline.wmv
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10-30-2003, 05:28 PM
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Back in my phase of desiring a b16/b18 powered CRX, I was told that it'd be about 150 bucks to smog the car...
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10-31-2003, 12:04 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Best Sleepers
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Originally Posted by Steel
Hmm... I wouldn't call those last two "sleepers" per se... especially the E55 AMG for example; definitely not a sleeper. 
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I don't know about that, man. Take an E55 AMG, strip off the badges, slap on some stock E-series wheels, and you got a fairly large silver 4-door sedan capable of beatin Porche Boxters. Sounds sleeper-like to me.
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11-04-2003, 07:49 PM
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Geez people, get off honda's ass! You see quick CRX's all the time. this is a topic about sleepers, not commonly known cars that can be fast. I'm talking about cars they don't sell body kits for and no one knows there fast.
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11-04-2003, 07:56 PM
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Re: Best Sleepers
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Originally Posted by Twyzz
Geez people, get off honda's ass! You see quick CRX's all the time. this is a topic about sleepers, not commonly known cars that can be fast. I'm talking about cars they don't sell body kits for and no one knows there fast.
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hell yea!!
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11-04-2003, 08:14 PM
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Re: Best Sleepers
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Geez people, get off honda's ass! You see quick CRX's all the time. this is a topic about sleepers, not commonly known cars that can be fast. I'm talking about cars they don't sell body kits for and no one knows there fast.
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The point was that a CRX isn't fast stock. I'll not argue that with a swap and some work they can be made into a sleeper.
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01-03-2004, 11:19 PM
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Dodge omni
hi all, I was just wondering if anybody knows if you can throw a 2.5Lturbo into a dodge onmi, if any one has expieriance, please let me know.... yeah a NORMAL dodge omni, not a glh.. thanks .
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01-04-2004, 10:33 AM
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Re: Best Sleepers
you can probably fit a chevy 350 in a dodge omni.I don't see why not.
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01-04-2004, 12:09 PM
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Re: Best Sleepers
I remember hearing about a turbocharged Vitz/Yaris that ran like 13 or 14...I personally wouldn't see that one coming.
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01-04-2004, 12:57 PM
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An early 90s stock Civic hatch back with a 3 foot wing on the back and APC stickers.
Why would this be considered a sleeper? People would be too busy laughing to race, and nobody would expect it to be fast
Anyone mention a AE86 4A-GZE yet? Or a Thunderbird SC? Or the alltime best sleeper.
A late 70s V8 Vega.
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01-04-2004, 02:54 PM
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Re: Best Sleepers
If you have the money, how about an IS300 with a 2jz-gte in it?
And no one's mentioned the fastiva yet... festiva with a b6t in it.
Hondas make decent sleepers because while most people know they can go fast, most people don't expect a civic with a body kit and wing to be running low 13s or faster. How about an h22 accord?
Turbo shadows? How about a dodge spirit r/t?
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01-04-2004, 03:23 PM
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Re: Best Sleepers
Sleepers can mean different things I guess. It might be a fast piece of shit, or a car nobody recognizes as fast. Since everybody I want to race thinks that their car is the fastest thing on the road, I vote my 1972 BMW Bavaria to be the best sleeper from my experience. It weighs 3000lbs, has four wheel disc brakes (that are the best I or the previous owner have felt on a stock car), dual downdraft carbed 3.0 liter that makes about 190hp and more torque. This thing is great on the freeway and no slouch in the cornering department. It's not tricky or anything, really stable, good road manners. Plus it is beige with the stock chrome hubcaps (BBS coming).
Since BMW used the same basic motor from '69-'94, I could easily drop in a 3.5 (with triple side drafts, or FI) and get around 250HP with a five speed. Did I mention it's beige? My 2002 is rusty and poop brown (paint soon) but it rocks. Of course, this car wasn't bad either (drove it from Tacoma WA to Shelton)
Yes, that is an S14 M3 motor in a 2002.
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01-04-2004, 06:47 PM
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That's your 2002?
Nice to see another German car nut on this board, can't let people forget who makes the best cars
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01-04-2004, 07:29 PM
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Go find a picture of lee howies LX, he drove it on the street a lot, looked like a mustang hatchback with a 1.5" cowl, and a 28x10.5 E/T street, not horribly uncommon on a typical 10 or 11 second street mustang, but it went low 8's @ 170+.
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