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12-02-2003, 07:55 PM
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Well Mikegee it depends which Saleen, the SR or S7. I think the S7 and R34 GTR are very comparable. It is hard to say which one is better or which one would win.
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12-02-2003, 07:56 PM
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Re: 350z Sucks!
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Originally Posted by svtcobra007x
Lol the reason im ranting and raving about high performance Mustangs is because some of you think the Z is the winner. Surely there is no way I can compare Saleens to the Z because it is a roadrunner. But this is exactly my point. Which car technically is better? The Saleen or the Z? Or the Steeda, Rousche, SVT? People I am just saying these cars are sweet and faster because some of you say if you modified your "hatchback(cracks me up)"Z , then you will be able to perform better than the high performance Stangs, not true. My point is therefore proven. High Performance Mustangs cannot be compared because they are in different classes and the Z can't top that. Sure the Z wins against the 2003 GT but that is about the only one, possibly Mach1 in a racetrack. Longlive theZ, take another car and try to mod it to be faster than the top of the line Mustangs. The Z doesnt have the engine for it.
So there you have it, mainly talking to that asshole Nacho and Z-Man LonglivetheZ, that there is no way that modded Z's will compare to the high performance Stangs. Fuck the stock and GT right now, Ford didn't make them with power, GET IT. I cant help it if the GT is not like it should be but that Mach1 compares greatly with the Z. Of course it came in second on the track, its all about turning and the basic Mustangs dont have that. There has to be some kind of medium we can reach here. Mustangs have diff. classes to them and I cant compare all of them to your Z without pissing you off. Its like Ford is in a Branch with so many other makers of the Mustang. Its like their car is seperate from all the high performance Mustangs. I look at all of them and see if the Z or the Stang has more potential.
TheSR20Drifter..............you shouldnt even come at all, didnt even say one good damn thing in my behalf. Tell me to give it up? Hey screw you man..........I'll give it up when people admit that Saleen, Rousche, SVT, Steeda, are not comparable to a Z or a modded Z(im comparing them so eventually you people will admit they are not comparable to a Z). They are Mustangs too Nacho, yea Nacho, they are high performance MUSTANGS!!!!!
Nacho(15y/0) I have just about had it with you. Maybe I should bring you into a Ford forum where you will be the sole man fighting an army. Then all of them will laugh at your ass. So look at it at a different perspective and stop being an asshole. Even LonglivetheZ is not as bad as you. Grow up........
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your right the Z isnt truely comparible. but tell me y the 3.5 non-charged is able to not be spanked by your larger powered vehicles.
and the potential of the 3.5L on stock interals is roughly 350 to the wheels.
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12-02-2003, 08:02 PM
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Re: 350z Sucks!
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Originally Posted by svtcobra007x
Lol the reason im ranting and raving about high performance Mustangs is because some of you think the Z is the winner. Surely there is no way I can compare Saleens to the Z because it is a roadrunner. But this is exactly my point. Which car technically is better? The Saleen or the Z? Or the Steeda, Rousche, SVT? People I am just saying these cars are sweet and faster because some of you say if you modified your "hatchback(cracks me up)"Z , then you will be able to perform better than the high performance Stangs, not true. My point is therefore proven. High Performance Mustangs cannot be compared because they are in different classes and the Z can't top that. Sure the Z wins against the 2003 GT but that is about the only one, possibly Mach1 in a racetrack. Longlive theZ, take another car and try to mod it to be faster than the top of the line Mustangs. The Z doesnt have the engine for it.
So there you have it, mainly talking to that asshole Nacho and Z-Man LonglivetheZ, that there is no way that modded Z's will compare to the high performance Stangs. Fuck the stock and GT right now, Ford didn't make them with power, GET IT. I cant help it if the GT is not like it should be but that Mach1 compares greatly with the Z. Of course it came in second on the track, its all about turning and the basic Mustangs dont have that. There has to be some kind of medium we can reach here. Mustangs have diff. classes to them and I cant compare all of them to your Z without pissing you off. Its like Ford is in a Branch with so many other makers of the Mustang. Its like their car is seperate from all the high performance Mustangs. I look at all of them and see if the Z or the Stang has more potential.
TheSR20Drifter..............you shouldnt even come at all, didnt even say one good damn thing in my behalf. Tell me to give it up? Hey screw you man..........I'll give it up when people admit that Saleen, Rousche, SVT, Steeda, are not comparable to a Z or a modded Z(im comparing them so eventually you people will admit they are not comparable to a Z). They are Mustangs too Nacho, yea Nacho, they are high performance MUSTANGS!!!!!
Nacho(15y/0) I have just about had it with you. Maybe I should bring you into a Ford forum where you will be the sole man fighting an army. Then all of them will laugh at your ass. So look at it at a different perspective and stop being an asshole. Even LonglivetheZ is not as bad as you. Grow up........
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what are common 1/4 miles time for the saleen s7?
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12-02-2003, 08:31 PM
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Re: 350z Sucks!
first of svt the Z aint a hatchback its a roadster its not a CRX. and second wanna see what a modded Z makes and dont forget u got the extra 2 cyl's. not that matter cuz ford dont no how to make power out of there large displacement. ok heres some info wat modded Z's make rite outta turbo magazine.
2003 Z w/ a stillen S/C @only 5.7psi made 312hp w/o pulley upgrade.
2003 Z w/ a ATI procharger centrigual S/C @ 7psi w/o pulley upgrade made 369hp
2003 Z w/ a TT kit from Greddy using twin TD05H-18G turbos @ onlt 5.6psi w/ a ECu and injectors upgrade made 334.
if u dont believe im sure someone hear has seen the article and u could look it up on turbomagazine.com
the Z doesnt have the engine for it. If a honda B18 can make close to 1,000hp a Z will definitly able to when more OEM companies start tuning. that made no sense. the VQ engine series is one of the most sophisticated engines on the market. go drive ur rouche im sure ill see u on the side of the highway broken down. the only time u see a stang go fast is when its on the top of a flatbed. i dont wanna pick a fite but how could u talk shit bout a Z when u dont even no nething bout it.
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12-02-2003, 08:36 PM
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Re: 350z Sucks!
and lets see those cars handle.
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12-02-2003, 08:48 PM
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Mikegee, I just looked it up on the internet and the S7 can do 11 to 11.8 seconds in 1/4 mile. 0-60 in 3.3 seconds.
Well F23ArRacer I guess I believe what you are saying is true but it seems a little bit overboard. Yet I would love to see it go past 200 mph and do 3.8 seconds like the Saleen Mustang SR does. Which also has superb handling plus I am sure it can be modded in more aspects. The MACH 1 which puts out 305 horses can also have a lot of that superchargered and turbo shit put on it so a basic Mustang can still compare to the modded Z.
I need more info than that though, like the speed times with all that shit on it.
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12-02-2003, 09:05 PM
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Re: Re: 350z Sucks!
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Originally Posted by TheSR20Drifter
And for all you other jack asses out there who just simply love to compare cars that are not in their class to others *cough*90Stangjc*cough* please stop your stupidity from going on further for people who know the difference between the clutch and the brake pedal laugh at you, bewildered in your dumbfoundedness. I'm sure there are more of you, but I just read this page and already know what this thread is about.
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Are you completely stupid? EVERYONE in here is comparing a V6 sports car to a V8 sports car-THESE TWO CARS ARN'T IN THE SAME CLASS!!!!!!! The guy that i was making a point two was the one comparing the "*V6 Accord*" to the mustang. I was simply stating that he didnt know what the f he was talking about, so i made it clear that if he was going to bring up something stupid like that-then so was i. I dont take lightly to people not knowing what the fuck they are talking about, so i make fun of them. Obviously you dont know too much or you would have realized exacly what was going on, now who's laughing?? I was simply browsing through this page and saw "mustangs suck"so i responded. how do you judge a car you DONT KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT???? I dont sit here and say HONDA'S suck because i've never owned one and therefore i dont make a opinion about it.
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12-02-2003, 09:13 PM
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Re: 350z Sucks!
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Originally Posted by svtcobra007x
Mikegee, I just looked it up on the internet and the S7 can do 11 to 11.8 seconds in 1/4 mile. 0-60 in 3.3 seconds.
Well F23ArRacer I guess I believe what you are saying is true but it seems a little bit overboard. Yet I would love to see it go past 200 mph and do 3.8 seconds like the Saleen Mustang SR does. Which also has superb handling plus I am sure it can be modded in more aspects. The MACH 1 which puts out 305 horses can also have a lot of that superchargered and turbo shit put on it so a basic Mustang can still compare to the modded Z.
I need more info than that though, like the speed times with all that shit on it.
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ok i understand wat u mean but u cant compare the 2. the S2000 and the Z is a perfect comparison. the Stang and the new GTO another good comparison. but not the Z and the stang or the saleen or the rouche or the bullit or ne other mustang under the sun. and those cars cost alot more. thats like comparing a Civic Si to a NSX. theres to much of a difference. if u wanna make a comparison between prices then we can do a WRX and a stang GT. and 3.8 secs ive never herd of that. please prove me wrong though. and the Z is only a lil over a full year old. the 4.6 liter has been around a lil longer.
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12-02-2003, 09:54 PM
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Ok well here is the site with the Saleen Mustang SR specs. Im sorry about 3.8 seconds, its actually 4.0 seconds but I wasn't really far off.
http://www.saleenunlimited.com/sr/specs.asp
I'm not too happy with the current engine they are using in the Mustang, its a 4.6L but the standard GT could have a lot more potential with a stronger engine. I hope for 2005 they move back to the 5.0 liters.
In that same web site, here is all the specs for all of the Saleens.
http://www.saleenunlimited.com/specs/default.asp
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12-02-2003, 09:56 PM
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Re: 350z Sucks!
this kid is retarded...
But he just said the first smart thing he's ever said!(svtcobra007x) "Ford didn't make them with power..." Of course,and thats what we're trying to tell you..FORD SUCKS! Do u see a 350Z Saleen?? I dont think so... They only help the people who need them..."oh look,ford makes those bad handling,weak power cars,i say we help them.."  Get my point... Nissan makes some of the best engines,like those V8 TWIN TURBO...
I say someone in here should take ur foxy 5.0 to a track,see what a mustang really is about...
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12-02-2003, 10:03 PM
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Re: 350z Sucks!
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Originally Posted by svtcobra007x
Ok well here is the site with the Saleen Mustang SR specs. Im sorry about 3.8 seconds, its actually 4.0 seconds but I wasn't really far off.
http://www.saleenunlimited.com/sr/specs.asp
I'm not too happy with the current engine they are using in the Mustang, its a 4.6L but the standard GT could have a lot more potential with a stronger engine. I hope for 2005 they move back to the 5.0 liters.
In that same web site, here is all the specs for all of the Saleens.
http://www.saleenunlimited.com/specs/default.asp
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thats its 6.0 time rite. and the 2005 Stang is suppose to be a 3 valve 4.6L. the 5.0. is gone forget bout it. that thing was a torque monster but it ended there. its a 5.0L for christ sakes it couldnt even make over 250hp w/ the exception of the cobra.
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12-02-2003, 10:05 PM
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Nacho if only they used the Mach 1 engine in the GT(32 valves in Mach 1) then there performance for it would not have been so overlooked. I expect more from them next year. I like my 5.0 engine in my 1989 GT right now though. It has modified heads which cost around 500 bucks to replace. It may not be the most powerful but when you turn the key and it fires up, it sounds and feels a whole lot better than the current GT's. I hope there next engine brings that feeling back but adds more power.
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12-02-2003, 10:19 PM
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Re: 350z Sucks!
This is what you should've said.
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Originally Posted by svtcobra007x
Lol the reason im ranting and raving about high performance Mustangs is because it's that time of the month and some of you KNOW the Z is the winner. Surely there is a way I can compare Saleens to the Z because it is a roadrunner. But this is exactly my point. Which car technically is better? The Saleen or the Z? Or the Steeda, Rousche, SVT? People I am just saying these cars are boring and slow because some of you say if you modified your "hatchback(I love hatchbacks, because back in the day, mustangs were hatches too)"Z , then you will be able to perform better than the high performance Stangs, true. My point is therefore proven. High Performance Mustangs cannot be compared because they are in different classes and the Z can't top that [I finally got it through my thick head not to compare different classes of cars]. Sure the Z wins against the 2003 GT but that is about the only one, possibly Mach1 in a racetrack. Longlive theZ, keep your car and mod it to be faster than the top of the line Mustangs. The Z has the engine for it, for the Z came with the VQ35DE and it is very stout.
So there you have it, mainly talking to that cool guy Nacho and Z-Man LonglivetheZ, that there is definitely a way that modded Z's will compare to the high performance Stangs. Fuck the stock and GT like i get rammed in the ass, right now, because Ford didn't make them with power, GET IT. I cant help it if the GT is not like it should be but that Mach1 compares greatly with the Z. Of course it came in second on the track, its all about turning and the basic Mustangs dont have that. There is not some kind of medium we can reach here, sorry. Mustangs have diff. classes to them and I can compare all of them to your Z without pissing you off. Its like Ford is in a Branch with so many other makers of the Mustang. Its like their car is seperate from all the high performance Mustangs. I look at all of them and see if the Z or the Stang has more potential.
TheSR20Drifter..............you should have come. didnt even say one good damn thing in my behalf. Tell me to give it up? Hey screw you man, I want you to screw me because I am a fagget like that..........I'll give up my sweet ass when people admit that Saleen, Rousche, SVT, Steeda, are comparable to a Z or a modded Z(im comparing them so eventually you people will admit they are comparable to a Z).
Nacho(15y/0) I have just about had it with you. Maybe I should bring you into a Ford forum where you will be rammed in the ass by 40 or so beer guzzling rednecks and will be the sole man fighting an army. Then all of them will cum in your ass. So look at it at a different perspective and stop being a cool kid. Even LonglivetheZ is not as cool as you. Stay how you are........
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12-02-2003, 10:27 PM
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LOL. Even though I dislike some of the changes you made in there I gotta admit that is pretty damn funny.
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12-02-2003, 10:31 PM
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Re: 350z Sucks!
Hey thanx Svtcobra,i guess those 11 pages did make u change ur mind after all...well all i got to say is that i knew you where gay all along,but i still admire you for understanding the Z is always the best... My lawn mower also makes a nice sound like your mustang,but we have the same little problem,they are really slow man,but keep up the good work...
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