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Old 12-06-2001, 04:52 PM   #16
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Trust me when I say it's faster.
Don't believe me? Check out www.LS1Tech.com...

An evenly modded A4 will ET better then it's M6 counterpart, however, the M6 will trap higher....
But who cares who traps highest, it's whoever makes it to the finish line first!

The reason the A4's are faster is mainly because of the torque multiplication you get by puttin in an aftermarket torque converter...And when the transmission makes the shifts, the converter keeps the rev's up higher in the power band.
I'm actually thinking about going with a higher stall torque converter (4400) to keep the revs up even higher!
Also, I can brake torque the car higher at the line without the wheels spinning, allowing me to leave harder... :sun:
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Old 12-07-2001, 01:28 AM   #17
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i don't like any firebirds, to be on topic...

but i rreally wanted to say:

HAPPY BDAY CHRIS!!!:ylsuper
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Old 12-08-2001, 11:27 AM   #18
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blackbird01: Fine, I guess I'll be on the fence, thats the best I'm going to do! (Then why do drag racers use sticks whenever they can in the pro series'???)


Thanks Adam
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Old 12-08-2001, 07:11 PM   #19
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Why is it that 9 of the top 10 FASTEST LS1 F-Body's are automatic? The one manual car in the top 10 has been converted to a Jerico 4 speed.

Most braket racers will either use a MODIFIED clutchless manual or an automatic if possible.
I've been drag racing for a little over a year, both on the street and at the track. And I have driven both a manual and automatic equipped F-Body. While the manual is more fun around town, at the track, the automatic shines. The torque multiplication and higher stall given with an aftermarket torque converter is unbeatable.
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Old 12-18-2001, 03:53 PM   #20
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I can brake torque the car higher at the line without the wheels spinning, allowing me to leave harder
I don't follow. Please explain.
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Old 12-18-2001, 10:32 PM   #21
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This means that while my car is sitting at the starting line, waiting for the green light to come on, I would do the following:

Put right foot on BRAKE.
Put left foot on GAS and give SLIGHT pressure to bring the RPM's up to approx. 1100 RPM.
As soon as the green light comes on, let off the brake and give gas (traction limited)...
Because of the aftermarket torque converter, TORQUE to the wheels is MULTIPLIED. So lets say my ENGINE is making 350 ft/lbs of TORQUE. Well, the converter multiplies it (how much depends on the converter)
This is known as "STR" or "Stall Torque Ratio"
The "STR" on my current converter is 2.2 which is a good "daily driver" converter. Now, if I wanted to go all out race, I'd up the stall to a 4400 and go with a STR of 2.9 (thats REALLY high)

Another aspect of the torque converter is it's ability to "slip" a little bit to allow the revs to stay in the power band. With a 3200 stall converter, my RPMs will only drop down a few hundred RPMs when the transmission shifts (thus keeping me IN my powerband)

Now, I'm not saying Manual Tranny's are useless and NOT GOOD.
That's wrong. If driven correctly, a well built manual can be just as fast as an automatic. However, how many people in the world can:
1) Shift faster then a computer
2) Never....EVER EVER EVER miss a shift?
Not many people out there are there?
Even the Pro's mess up.
This is another reason why automatics have an advantage at the dragstrip. "Torque Multiplication" and they are much more consistent.
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Old 09-03-2003, 12:25 AM   #22
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Hey guys, Im 16, just got my first car- a 2001 black firebird w/v6 engine... bein 16 i am completely broke except when i get my measley paycheck every2 weeks...recently ive been blowing it on fun yet inexpensive interior light mods...i got a few neons and some glow wire and have it all set up for a really neat look..my friend and I went out to pepboys and got some switches and inline fuse box's for a little switch job we wanted to do in our cars (he has an acura integra LS) yea screw importsLoL..anyway, has anyone had any experience with hooking stuff up to the fuse box...the switch i have actually fits perfectly into the cig-lighter and if i can figure out how to take away teh electrical current i think that the cig-lighter would be the coolest housing for my new switch...but i need to know how to disable the electrical flow to it in order to prevent fire and what not...any ideas?!

darkecho@att.net if you have some really good advice!

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Old 09-03-2003, 05:51 PM   #23
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Posting this in a thread that's a year and a half old is not the way to do things...

Next time, start a new one, and welcome to AF.
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