Vr4/gsx? - Page 3

tof · 09-03-2003, 08:04 PM

See, the thing is I was ready to assume you were wrong about the pistons because you were so obviously wrong about so many other things. I may have been the one in error on the iron slugs. There…I have admitted that I sometimes make a mistake. Are you man enough to do the same?

As to the automatic GVR4s you worked on, I suggest the following possibilities in order by increasing likelihood:
a) They were overseas models imported by their owners
b) They were rebadged and converted GSXs (Oh…I forgot…they didn’t offer any automatic GSXs)
c) You dreamed it
d) You made that factoid up in an effort to give yourself some credibility or
e) Your crack-impaired memory has failed you yet again

The thing that got us all riled up is these facts you threw around based mostly on a manual that is confusing, applies to at least two countries and a half dozen models, and is probably about five grade levels above your reading comprehension level.

And for someone who could care less what we think you sure do get riled up!

Let me close with a poem:

With regard to Galants and to our VR-fours
You might want to defer to those in the know.
Our experience and knowledge just blow off your doors
And your pitiful retort attempts simply blow.

The slush boxes you worked on and claim to have fixed,
Show you lacking in knowledge as well as in class
The electrical seats that you know DO exist,
Let me know that you can't tell your head from your ass.

So when we get this feeling way deep in our gut
That you might be an ignorant fool and a lout
It might just be better to keep your mouth shut
Than to post your opinions and remove any doubt.

Your posts have revealed it. You're really a veg.
And you shouldn't have thrown all those mad flames my way.
'Cause if they put your poor brain on a razor blade's edge
It would look like a b-b on an eight lane highway.

Regards,
TOF

mtbachelor · 09-03-2003, 08:47 PM

How about posting what section and page number of the FSM that you are getting your info from?

I have both here at work, the hard copy factory service manual and the CD/Adobe Acrobat version that includes the Talon and Eclipse. Might also have a copy of the official Mitsubishi CAPS program and CD to be able to check part numbers.

Oh, and if you look around the GVR-4 site, there are copies of the sales brochures from 91 and 92, magazine articles from Car and Driver, Road and Track and a few others. My original window sticker is posted there too...

#334/1000
Proud owner since Nov 1991

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockinWRX

I love people who don't have a single clue about the cars they drive , and try to tell ME , who has been working on DSM's and Galant's for about 5 yrs , what is in them. I have the factory correct manuals for the ENTIRE 89-92 Galant line , which shows me power seats , AECS in the GVR4 , AWS , iron pistons in the NT 4G63 (with a 7000 rpm redline also) and other things that all you idiots are trying to tell me does not exist. So whatever , I don't really care. Wallow in your own stupidity , but don't force it on others. Especially when they know better.

RockinWRX · 09-03-2003, 08:48 PM

Pretty obvious you guys are the crackheads to me. Seems you need to learn more about your own cars. I certainly know where NOT to come for advice. Not like I need the advice of obviously brainless people anyway. I've been working on DSM's and Galants in general for about 5 years , so I'm pretty sure I know more than you freaks do. Not to mention I'm ASE certified , prolly the only one on this board from what I can tell.

AshVR4 · 09-03-2003, 08:54 PM

I have the feeling that you sir, are a 15yo.

turbowop · 09-03-2003, 10:33 PM

ASE certified.....BWwaaahahahahahahahahahah!!! Aren't some of the parts idiots at Pep Boys and Shucks ASE certified?

You're a certified FUCKHEAD!!

RockinWRX · 09-03-2003, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AshVR4

I have the feeling that you sir, are a 15yo.

I have the feeling , that you , sir , are an ass..................

AshVR4 · 09-04-2003, 12:30 AM

Yes, I am an ass the owns a Galant VR4. Look, calm down a minute & see the truth. Don't you think that maybe, just maybe, people who own the damn thing may have a clue?

tof · 09-04-2003, 01:38 AM

Give it up, Ash. The man (or whatever) has dug in his heels...all the deeper after being on the receiving end of a serious flame war. The man is en fuego. And he is obviously the type who cannot admit he is wrong...the type of mechanic I would never take my car to. Mechanics, like physicians, computer technicians, and anybody else who fixes complex systems need a little humility along with a lot of confidence.

tof · 09-04-2003, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RockinWRX

I have the feeling , that you , sir , are an ass..................

Actually I think you misread, again...He's an ash.

my91gvr4 · 09-04-2003, 02:23 AM

HAHAHAH

RockinWRX, your wrong about almost everything. The only thing you have a possibility of being right on is about the pistons in a NT 4g63. I really do think you are some teenaged kid who knows nothing about these cars and is BSing through your keyboard and hiding behind the internet.

How can you be so indignant to argue with this many GVR4 owners ? There are almost 1500 members on GVR4.org who know you are wrong.

Why not just admit it and be humble about your mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes.

You are a tool, btw. Please stop mis-informing other people who may not know as much as us (as in the GVR4 OWNERS).

BluFalcon · 09-04-2003, 06:18 AM

RockinWRX you are wrong on pretty much all your points regarding the GVR4:

The GVR4 did not come with a electronic supension, power seats or auto transmissions, at least not in the U.S. I own one and I know of at least 4 other people here in the D/FW area who own GVR4's as well. You would think that with 5 GVR4's to choose from, at least ONE of them would have at least ONE of these "options" you described? These "options" you refer to, were never offered on ANY Galant VR-4 sold here in the U.S. It's a fact that can't be disputed. None of the advertising literature, or brochures mention any of these items being offered. CAPS does not have a listing for any type of Auto tranny parts, power seating equipment or Active Electronic Suspension equipment for the E39A. As far as the factory manual is concerned, it covers ALL models of Galants...GSR, GS, GSX, LS VR-4 etc. It would stand to reason that it would include information on the repair and maintenance of Auto transmissions, power seating equipment and electronic suspension items, since these options were available on various models of Galants, with the exception of the VR-4.

As far as the comments regarding the GGSX, I cant dispute that since I've only seen three Galant GSX's in my lifetime. However, a friend of mine is picking up a GGSX to swap his GVR4 engine and driveline into as a project car. Once we pull the weak NT 4G63 out of the car, I'll be happy to yank the head off and check for those "cast iron pistons"

that are supposed to be in the car. Hell, I'll even take pictures of them once they get yanked. But I think all I'm going to find is a set of aluminum pistons. Just call it a hunch.

Before you dismiss me as some clueless newbie, who doesn't know what he's talking about, be advised.....I've been modifying DSM's for a little over 5 years now. I've bled and sweat on them, hell one time I slept under one becasue I knew I would be there first thing in the morning anyway to finish it up. I'm almost as old as you claim to be, and I make my living as a mechanic on aircraft engines. DSM's are just a hobby. I don't know everything about these cars, but I know more than some of the guys working in the dealerships and I'm not afraid to admit when I dont know something. I dont think the GVR4 guys are being so hard on you because you passed on some bad information, but rather because you wont admit you are wrong. This is something that can get someone in trouble down the road, if they take your "knowledge" as gospel. In the aviation industry, people DIE when bad information is passed along as good. The consequences aren't nearly as high when dealing with cars, I for one would be pretty pissed if I nuked a rear end because you said a GGSX tranny would work with a GVR4/TEL rear end. "Well some guy on a message board said it would work.." "Did you check the final drive ratio?" "No, that guy sure seemed to know what he was talking about though..." Cold comfort... Grab a clue, man.

Airpoppoff · 09-04-2003, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockinWRX

I have the feeling , that you , sir , are an ass..................

Dude your hilarious, I dont even own a galant and i know that Vr4's dont have that shit

I am b · 09-04-2003, 02:47 PM

http://www.dsm.org/cars/galant.htm#std_equip

uhmmmm yeah..............you are looking dumber and dumber as the day goes on.

Please note the VERY FEW factory options available on the vr4.

BLU CIVIC · 09-04-2003, 02:57 PM

did the dealers do any options or have access to any special options

bunot · 09-04-2003, 02:57 PM

for a supposed ASE certified mechanic and a DSM tuner for 5 yrs....he sure runs slow times.

http://www.wrxyz.com/forums/showthre...0173#post20173

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