Obese people.

[slave]

And for the more traditonal style of motivation, get fit, get these:

[Oz]

Anbother thoroughly excellent and enjoyable post to read Rep, that's spot on the money. I've just got back to the uni computers after 1.5 hours at the gym (and a 1/2 hour shower on their money ). Fell better for it, get over illness fastewr, feel fit and toned for the majority of the time. And THEN there is the chick factor - Howq does 4 in 10 days sound fellas !

Gav - you wouldn't recognize me these days. We should organise to go on a day long bike ride. I guarantee I can keep up.

[slave]

Grant I am so up for that. Would be awesome!!

[Oz]

Nice one, Bruvva
If you can find me a bike to ride, pick a day late November to mid December and we'll go for a blast along the beach or up in the Blue Mountains.
Loving it.

[2strokebloke]

Originally posted by Oz
And THEN there is the chick factor - Howq does 4 in 10 days sound fellas !

Sounds like "Herpes" to me.

But I do ride my bike alot, but never really considered it exercise (it's convenience mostly - that and it save wear on my cars engines, gas money etc. I know I'm lame)
Anyways, the point being that people are just lazy, rather than ride a bike or walk two miles to their friends house, they'd rather fire up the SUV and go there sitting on their (fat) ass in air-conditioned comfort.

[whttrshpunk]

I used to be tipping the scales at about 220lbs(i'm 6'2).After realizing that I had stopped working out and that I was fat, I decided to cut out junk food, fast food and most sugar. I don't touch sweet tea or sodas now, nor caffiene. Water and milk only. I'm down to about 190 and I feel alot better. Whereas when I first started I couldn't even go on a 1 mile run without stopping to rest on the way, now I'm working on lowering my time for a 3 mile run So to fat people who make excuses I give a big You can change if you want, just drop the twinkies and strap on your jogging shoes.

[themodelkid]

I was a little chunky, but since cutting the shit foods, and micky D's ive lost a few and its great. I cant stand people that want to sue the foo industry cuase there to fuckin lazy to get off their fat ass and do sumthin about it.

[Steel]

Originally posted by slave
And for the more traditonal style of motivation, get fit, get these:

Hehe, my g/f has that EXACT same body type.

Ohh its so nice!

[Prelewd]

Originally posted by Steel


Hehe, my g/f has that EXACT same body type.

Ohh its so nice!

I always hear about hotties out in the eastern US.. that true?

Most of my weightloss is for the girls.

[slave]

I dated my best friend for a bit who looked as good as her. :'( But its all good, my Amy is a hottie... (actually better than my ex) yummmm

[boingo82]

Originally posted by replicant_008
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In the western world - "we" in marketing have programmed you to associate sweet as a pleasuresome flavor, we have also associated the taste of fried foods and those rich in fat as having intensity of flavor that you like - as opposed to healthier but more bland foods such as vegetables. We've also associated your selection of fruit and vegetables not around food value or taste but around appearance - which is why some of the more flavorful but less attractive varieties are no longer available commercially.
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This statement is inaccurate according to most things I have seen/read. Are people influenced somewhat by marketing? Yes. But is it the reason why people prefer greasy, sugary foods? I say no.
Back when food was less readily available, due to droughts, lack of suitable food storage, etc., it was hard for people to maintain an adequate caloric intake. Whilst vitamins and antioxidants (the main benefit of vegetables) are very necessary for proper growth and nutrition, they are NOT as absolutely necessary for survival as calories are. For this reason, the human body recognises and desires calorie-rich foods (sugar, fat) as those are the foods that ensure survival in lean months.
Since those foods were more necessary, mother nature (or call it evolution) saw fit to favor the people who were attracted to those foods - and survived.
However, as of lately, a sedentary lifestyle has led to a prevalence of calories, and less energy is expended to obtain them. Gone are the days of herding cattle and threshing wheat. Our slow metabolisms have become a liability instead of a lifesaver.

Has anyone else noticed the link between obesity and poverty? You might argue that link is caused by the low cost of fat and sugar - let's face it, 50¢ buys you a heck of a lot of calories in the form of margarine - OR, is the link because the same people who prefer cheap, taste-good, bad-for-you-in-the-long-run food act the SAME way when it comes to financial planning. They choose cable TV and booze over investmests, etc. They choose feel-good-now over feel-good-in-the-long-run. Just something to consider.


I saw a show on Discovery channel a few months ago that touched on some of the mental problems that may or may not contribute to obesity. The show focused on an obese woman and her healthy-weight daughter. The woman had that stomach-restriction surgery (I forget the name, but they put a band around your stomach so you can't eat diddly-squat).
After having the surgery, her weight dropped rapidly, and she actually began to feel MORE insecure because her defense mechanism was gone. She had been sexually abused as a child, and had always believed herself worthless. As she got older, she thought, "If only I can lose this weight everything will be perfect."
After losing 230 lbs, she finds that fat was NOT her only problem. She still feels worthless. She still is poor. She still has problems relating to people. All her life she had been using fat as an excuse for all her problems, and it is depressing to find that this is not the case.
She substitutes another addiction (alchohol) for the original one (food). She begins to go out drinking every night, and her relationship with her daughter languishes.
Ironically, left alone many nights, her daughter begins overeating.

Not to say that every fat person has this problem, but I have heard of some of these cases where a person unconsiously, but deliberately, maintains obesity BECAUSE then they can blame that instead of acknowledging the real problem. They can say "people don't like me because I'm fat", etc.

More to think about.

Emily

[Oz]

[slave]

talk about sum it up, nice post Em.

[2strokebloke]

Originally posted by boingo82

Has anyone else noticed the link between obesity and poverty?

Wait - as in there isn't one? I don't think I've ever seen a fat hobo or homeless person, even in London the homeless were skinny. (maybe it could have somthing to do with the fact that although lazy, they don't snack on food all day long?)
As for the using of being fat to substitute for another shortcoming you can't deal with, that's true, it's very much like the dog owner who says "I don't fly because Fido doesn't like it" when they are actually the one who is afraid of flying. But that's certainly not the majority.
The majority are probably "snackers" most people snack as children(it's almost necessary for small children to have something between the three large meals of the day), and many people as they grow up stop having snacks between meals - but some, and probably a large deal of them are overweight continue snacking right through adulthood - as a habit they'll have some sort of food around to munch on between the main meals - even if they aren't hungry.
But let's not blame the problem on "genetics" or psychological quirks. That is the easy way out of just about anything - something else other than yourself to blame, and it sure doesn't help to pawn it off on these things and then say "I can't help it."

[boingo82]

Originally posted by 2strokebloke


Wait - as in there isn't one? I don't think I've ever seen a fat hobo or homeless person, even in London the homeless were skinny. (maybe it could have somthing to do with the fact that although lazy, they don't snack on food all day long?)

One need not be homeless to be in poverty. I guess I should have said "lower class", as in those who are eligible for welfare. There seems to be more obesity in the 15,000-30,000 income bracket than in the 80,000-100,000 bracket.

Originally posted by 2strokebloke
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But let's not blame the problem on "genetics" or psychological quirks. That is the easy way out of just about anything - something else other than yourself to blame, and it sure doesn't help to pawn it off on these things and then say "I can't help it."

Wasn't intending to blame it on anything other than personal problems. My point was merely that there are other factors involved besides laziness and overeating.
(For the record, I am not overweight, nor is anyone in my immediate family. However I have the most "potential" as I tend toward a "curvy" body type as opposed to the rest of my family, who are sticks.

I am curious about the causes in a coworker of mine, who is VERY large (300+) and has a hefty wife, though he earns $8 an hour and is the sole breadwinner for his family of eight. I have watched his eating habits and he consumes quite a bit of fast food, more than I do, actually, and my household earns more than twice that much for 2 people. I wonder how he can afford it. I think, in some ways it's very selfish for him to be eating out 3x a week when his children are living in poverty. Hmmm....