12-06-2003, 02:37 AM
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actually the Fastest Production Car would be the McLaren F1 because that is the best cars in the world.
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12-12-2003, 07:37 PM
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Re: Fastest Production Car
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Originally Posted by DSM_tuner
i was wondering if any one new what the fastest production car is?.The 3 cars that claim to be the fastest car are the dauer 962 , Bugatti Veyron , and the Koenigsegg CC.
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Depends what you guys define as a "production car" - I certainly don't class any of the vehicles you've listed, as production cars.
The Vauxhall Lotus Carlton was good for around 180+ mph, and that was a production car, sold through Vauxhall dealers here in the UK alongside more sedate family Vauxhall models.
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12-15-2003, 05:13 AM
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Just like to point out that the dodge tomohawk claim of 300+ mph is bs. There is no way that a 500hp bike with aerodynamics like that could reach that speed, im guessing more like 200mph and then the riders arms would rip off. However I have seen videos of a turbo hayabusa (the most aerodynamic production bike) with 499hp pulling insane wheelies at about 180mph. Also they claim they have had it up to 270 mph, so with the dodge being a big heavy POS there is no way it goes that fast.
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12-16-2003, 04:06 PM
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Re: Fastest Production Car
The estimated top speed for the tomahawk is an *estimate*.
However, it was derived from computational fluid dynamics computer simulations. AKA, it found the amount of resistance offered from aerodynamic drag...once the values of all frictional forces are added (wheels to ground, drivetrain losses, and air resistance), the vehicles power and gear ratios, a pretty good estimate of top speed can be established.
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12-16-2003, 08:09 PM
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Well their estimate is wrong, that bike is very aerodynamicly dirty and as i just said the most aerodynamic production bike can only go 270 with 499 hp. Also they first said it could go 400mph and then changed their minds to 300mph. All the motorcycle magzines have been joking about how bs thier claims are and if you sat down and did all those calcuations yorself you would have to agree. Also the bike only has 2 gears so its not going to work trust me.
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12-19-2003, 06:21 AM
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Re: Fastest Production Car
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Originally Posted by Jimster
The Veryon hasn't hit production yet, the CC is the same- the Mclaren F1 still holds the title
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Its the Koenigsegg CC
0-62 @ 3.0 seconds flat
and 245 mph as top speed.. thats around 5 mph faster then the McLaren F1
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12-19-2003, 11:08 PM
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dodge tomahawk
the problem with the dodge tomahawk is its lack of downforce, meaning that if it was fitted with front and rear wings it would be capable of its 400mph+ top speed making it th fastest production in the world
my car is a 1981 Chrysler valiant sedan with a 750hp twin turbo hemi 265(six cyl)
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12-20-2003, 01:28 AM
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Re: dodge tomahawk
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Originally Posted by valiant_man_1981
the problem with the dodge tomahawk is its lack of downforce, meaning that if it was fitted with front and rear wings it would be capable of its 400mph+ top speed making it th fastest production in the world
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Yea....adding drag always makes things faster............
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12-20-2003, 04:20 AM
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Re: Fastest Production Car
I pisses me off when companies like dodge make rediculas claims, did you not read my post about the 500hp hayabusa? it has nothing to do with downforce, the bike just straight out doesnt have the aero dynamics or horse power to reach 300mph. Think about it, the busa weighs 215kgs, the dodge 681kgs, both have about 500 hp but the busa is way more aero dynamic. The busa has 6 gears, the tomohawk has 2. So its not a matter of wether it really can reach 300mph it has been proven that it cant.
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12-20-2003, 07:03 AM
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Re: Fastest Production Car
the problem with the claim is that of course for a speed even near that you'll need incedably long ratios but that tank can get you all of 50 miles crusing and to think how much it would be going flat out
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12-21-2003, 02:04 AM
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I think it could probably do it. Who the hell knows...besides...why is it even an issue? The Tomahawk is nowhere even near the vacinity of being almost close to being considered a "production vehicle" nor will it ever be.
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12-21-2003, 08:22 AM
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easy. It's the Mclaren F1
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12-21-2003, 10:11 AM
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Re: Fastest Production Car
It is still the McLaren F1 anyway, until a company that makes at least 50 examples can have one of its cars independently tested both ways down a track, with the runs being made within 30 minutes of each other.
No other company has done this yet with a speed faster then 242mph.
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12-28-2003, 12:23 PM
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Nobody beat Vector W8 TwinTurbo
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12-28-2003, 11:32 PM
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Re: Fastest Production Car
Vector; never any conclusive independent tests, and claimed top speed was only 220mph anyway; the McLaren beats that with its verified top speed
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