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Old 08-11-2005, 10:23 AM   #16
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I dug out the time slips from my last drag car.

78 Camaro

std bore 350 cast flattops, 461X heads 1.94 x 1.50 valves, valve job done on a Serdi machine, I ported the heads using David Vizard's concepts, 67 Z28 valve springs, Cam Dynamics 268 Hyd cam 228 @ .050, 480 lift; high volume pump to make up for too loose main brg clearances, .001 undersize mainbrgs to get clearances down to .003 > .004.; Moroso deep pan run 1qt low on the advertised capacity; stock cast iron dist converted to HEI magnetic pickup, recurved, MSD cap adapt, Ign coil and ign modules mounted on passenger footwell using msd firewall terminal for the coil wire. Jet Hot coated headers; Performer intake; 600 vac secondary holley. ARP rodbolts, main studs, head bolts, oil pan studs w nylock nuts and same for valve covers.

286 rwhp using a formula that takes vehicle weight, et and maybe one other parameter.

Turbo 350 that I built using a Transstar HD kit, hardened roller clutch race and a Transgo full manual valve body reprogramming kit. Cheap 4000 rpm stall torque converter.

4.88

1.75 5.11 7.99 @ 84.91 1/8th 10.51 12.67 @ 103.69 1/4

9.5x28x15 MT slicks

2600 lbs

Using the above HP formula the car was supposed to run 12.2 in the 1/4. The 4.88 was way too low for the cam. 4.11 would have been best. This car raced sportsman [ the footbrake class ] where 13.00 was the cutoff so we had a real battle to slow it down.

I had a set of Arias 327 domed pistons, a steel 327 large journal crank, a Vic Jr intake and a 750 Holley that I was going to put in the 350 block but never got around to it. My body wouldn't tolerate having it's biorithims messed with and racing at night means you don't get home until way late so I finally quit dragracing.
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Old 08-12-2005, 05:23 PM   #17
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Not a bad ET/MPH at all considering the est. HP. The high stall/low race weight didn't hurt either, but agree the gear was too much.

I've STILL got the heaviest PIG in this thread
....it's startin' to seem like the big diet is inevitable.....

Anybody runnin' a full interior, 3500lb. car goin' 10.90's or better on motor?
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:24 PM   #18
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1) 1992 Nissan 240sx SE Turbocharged
2) 2.4l 4cylinder KA24DE bone stock internally
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8) stock+220lbs so about 2800lbs
9) 137,000 miles on the engine

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Old 08-14-2005, 07:47 PM   #19
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1) 2001 Camaro Z28
2) V8 LS1
3) Most likely stock 310whp range
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5) Stock 3.42
6) 60' 2.351, ET 14.2, 102.5 MPH...
7) Kumho Ecsta 245's on all four... bought the car with these
8) Probably around 3500-3600lbs... It's a fairly base model Z28 and I don't weigh over 120lbs.


First time at the track (driving) this saturday, my 60' sucked mainly cause the right lane has a slight slope to it, and trying to stage your car wants to roll forward. So trying to keep the car from rolling and revved up was a bitch. And never doing it before I wasn't sure what to do...

Car came off the line with a slight bog, but I hit 2nd gear and lost traction and had to feather the gas to get it back to sticking... then cause the clutch isn't really cooperative and was sticking to the floor I missed 3rd gear. But, I still nudged out a stock STi out. My 14.25 @ 102.5 to his 14.499 @ 94.5



My second run, was slightly worse. A 14.38 @ 105.4. I got stuck in the right lane again, so I tried holding the ebrake slightly to keep the car from rolling forward. Well, the guy I was racing was already staged so I guess the system was ready to rock and roll when I got setup. So.. as I'm fucking with the ebrake the light goes green.

If there was a video, you'd hear me go "goddammmitt...." in a dissapointed tone. I was actually laughing at it. My little stunt at the light cost me a R/T of 1.058.

I should of won something for worst R/T of the day. Luckily my opponent was some crappy beater Accord which ran a 15.544 @ 92.89. Even with my horridly bad R/T and launch that run I regained the lead by the 330' mark.

Need me a clutch that works before I can start practicing better launch techniques.

Although, I'll agree with 2000LS1Z28's opinion of this track. It does kinda suck for traction. It has a slight altitude of 1200ft, which isn't much but I guess it's enough to affect ET's a slight amount. Plus it's hot as hell out there... Oh and my favorite part. The track is pointed do west. And since racing doesn't get started till in the late after noon. You have fight against not only a stead 10-15mph headwind but also the setting sun in your face. My second run was at 6:22pm... found it a tad bit difficult to see the christmas tree. Glad I didn't stick around to try to take off in the actual setting sun. That must of sucked.

Enough excuses though... just gotta practice practice practice... after a clutch replacement.
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:08 PM   #20
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Redneck.... been there done that. Better #'s come w/practice. You'll see gains each time you get more and more tree time. Don't sweat the R/T #'s until you get comfortable w/your launch and the 60' #..... THEN work the tree.

Don't know what your stage/launch method is, but on street tires just turn them over a couple times to clear the garbage from the tread. A long smokey burn out won't help on a street radial. Once staged(going deep will help your RT if you tend to be late, but mph will suffer)on the the 1st yellow bring the rpm's up to about 2200. On the last yellow feather the clutch out(all be it quickly)until you feel it grab and then nail it. This "should" keep tire spin down to a minimum, and get you closer to a 2.000 60'(which still ain't bad on a street radial).

If it were me, I'd try to find a pair of tires. Since you're still on the stock 10 bolt, a pair of drag radials would be your best bet for getting that 60' # down w/out grenading the rear.

Sounds like you were at my home track for those passes LOL!
Atlanta Dragway's prep leaves a little to be desired, and is also a 1200' DA(on a good day)track.

Keep practicing and post up your new best's as they happen!
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:39 PM   #21
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If there was a video, you'd hear me go "goddammmitt...." in a dissapointed tone. I was actually laughing at it. My little stunt at the light cost me a R/T of 1.058.
And I thought my big snoozer of a .578 (.078) Friday night (raced Friday this weekend due to a dirt track race at the local track Saturday) was bad, lol.

Lost the damn race because of that and was actually kind of embarrassed instead of mad about it, lol. The other guy got to peddle on me about 60 ft from the finish line!

The round before I did do pretty good though. .504 (.004) light and 4.826 on a 4.82 dial.

I'd say my track is atleast 2000 ft above sea level. Not sure how much it affects ETs, but any elevation will hurt a NA engine. Your mph was pretty good though. Probably be able to pull out some 13.70s once you get the launch right.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:36 AM   #22
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1) 2002 Dodge Dakota 5.9 R/T
2) 360ci, .020" over, very mild cam, 2.02 heads, 58mm tb, 4bbl intake, 1.7 rr's, Intercooled Paxton Novi-2000 (12psi), headers & 2.5" true dual exhaust
3) 493rwhp/473rwtq on 12lbs of boost
4) Built 46RE w/2800 stall (gonna up that to 3600 soon)
5) Stock 3.92 w/LSD
6) 1.66, 1/8th 7.45@93.02, 1/4 11.62@120.38
7) 28x13.50 Hoosier QTP's on Bogart D-10's, Moroso DS2's up front
8) Not sure, haven't weighed her yet, but I'll bet it's over 4K lbs with me in it.

She needs a bigger stall, and some more tuning, running extremely rich down low and through the midrange. Should be good for low 11's with the stall and tuning

Oh, full interior, a/c, stereo, etc. and I run with the tonneau and tailgate on. Only weight reduction is a full set of Bogarts and I pull the front sway for the track.
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Damn it man! Love to see the expressions on the faces of the guys that roll up on ya thinkin' it's just another wanna be in a pickup truck.....

Damn good #'s on safe boost totin' that kind of weight! With a tad better 60', a few more lbs. of boost, a few less lbs. of weight and the tune, I bet you'd be 10.9x's and STILL comfy on the street

Btw....thanx for posting up! Now I'm NOT the heaviest in this thread
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Yeah, it's a blast catching people off guard She's getting a lil weight reduction soon, no stripping tho, just losing some weight were I can, mostly off the front end. I think I'm gonna see how fast I can get her this fall and then just leave it at that. Get a set of nice 18's with some DR's and run her full weight after that, mid-high 11's in street trim will be enough. I don't want to cut her up for a rollbar.
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Had a buddy of mine left Atlanta to go back home to Philly.... he always talked about the street seen up there. I bet if one was so inclined ..... makin' coin w/that puppy on the street wouldn't be too difficult
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1) 2001 Camaro Z28
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. So trying to keep the car from rolling and revved up was a bitch. )
Get a Line Loc. Fairly easy to install. Finding the correct brake master cyl and line flare fittings is the hardest part.
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Had a buddy of mine left Atlanta to go back home to Philly.... he always talked about the street seen up there. I bet if one was so inclined ..... makin' coin w/that puppy on the street wouldn't be too difficult
There's a pretty good street scene here, if you know where to go. South Philly sucks ass, full of ricers and wanna-be thugs. I just race for fun tho, too many fast cars around here to lose my money to LOL
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.....ricers and wanna-be thugs.... oh my! LOL!

I hear ya.... seems like it's that way anywhere these days.

While I don't actually "street race" per se anymore, I have been known to purge/launch from a stop light and lift just before the shift light to get a "certain" point accross..... but then I feel real bad when ol' boy's girl is winking as they go by.... sometimes ya just gotta say WTF.
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1) '97.5 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
2) L67 Series II 3800 V6 Supercharged Eaton M90 Gen3
3) Stock 240 hp/280 torque - Estimated 350+ hp
4) Transmission - FWD 4T65E- HD autotransaxle
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Don't know alot about FWD but seems a decent 60'/ET/MPH for the gear/race weight! I'm assuming you footbrake your launch? What rpm are you leaving at?

Thanx for posting up!
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