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Old 08-05-2005, 11:21 PM   #1
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Racers.... post your times

Would like to see what kinds of different cars are doing what at the track. More interested in the "street" cars vs. the gutted out tube chassis'd dedicated race car, but all are welcome. Post up your stats!

1) Car
2) Motor- 4,6,8,10 cyl.
3) Horsepower/Torque, NA/PA
4) Transmission- auto/stall, manual/pro shifted
5) Gear
6) 60', ET, MPH... NA/PA
7) Tire- street radial/ drag radial/ slick
8) Race weight

I'll start...

1) 2000 Pontiac TransAM WS6
2) Gen.III LS6 V-8
3) 457 rwhp/423 rwtq. NA/ 611 rwhp/634 rwtq. N20
4) Borg Warner T56 6 speed- RAM disc/PP. - stock hard parts
5) Moser 12 bolt, 4.56 ring/pinion
6) 1.44-57, 11.44, 124 NA, No PA #'s yet
7) 28-12.50-15 MT ET Street
8) 3580 lbs.
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:46 PM   #2
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1) 1972 Chevrolet Vega, fiberglass doors, hatch, front end, allum. floor boards, full roll cage (minus halo), 4-link rear suspension w/coil overs and Camaro disc brakes, tube frame (triple strength steel, homemade), 1966 Corvair front suspension
2) pre-1987 355 SBC (pre-1987 406 SBC*), flat top pistons, around .650 lift roller cam, Pro 1 heads, fully ported and 2.08 valves, Victor Jr. Intake ported to match heads, 750 cfm Proform carb.
3) maybe 450-500 hp (maybe 500-550*) NA
4) GM Powerglide 1.76 ratio, electric shift, built, big stall converter
5) 5.13 Richmond, GM 12-bolt, narrowed, aftermarket axels
6) 1.622 60', 4.781 330 ET (1.464 60', 4.403 330 ET*)
7) 31x14 Good Year Dragway Special
8) about 2950 (way too heavy for a racecar)

*406 used to be in the car but its no more: broke rod
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Last Race (10-6-07) So its been awhile...
Dial: 6.77, RT: -.0001, 60': 1.4360, 1/8th: 6.7942 @ 100.65 mph
Fastest Pass of '07 (10-6-07)
60': 1.4360, 330': 4.3453, 1/8th: 6.7942 @ 100.65 mph


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Old 08-06-2005, 10:22 AM   #3
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Always liked Vega's turned into track cars. I'd give a kidney to get the RW down to 2950 in my pig..... but then again it's not really what anyone would call a race car.... just a qwik grocery getter

Sounds like your car would be a blast to drive.... how does it act on the top through the traps? Seems like mine is forever dancing through the lights and after I've lifted even w/the 28's.

Thinking about going w/a stalled/braked T350 as the pewter pig doesn't see a whole lot of street time these days. Love rowing the gears but am shooting for a high 1.30/ low 1.40 60' and a bit more consistency off the tree.

Prolly need to do a higher gear on the hose w/a big converter? Thinking the small cubes is gonna run out of breath at about the 1000' mark on a 6900 rpm limiter?

How big a stall are you running, and at what rpm through the lights?
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Old 08-07-2005, 03:56 AM   #4
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Haha. I wished mine was down to about 2500. It'd run 4.teens in the 330 (that'd be about 6.30s in the 1/8th, and probably 9.90s in the 1/4-if it weighed 2500 lbs) atleast if it only weighed 2500 lbs.


As for my converter. I think its supposed to be a 5000 stall, but I dont know for sure. Its really too much for this engine, but it was bought for the 406 that I blowed up.

As for my R's going through the lights, I think this motor (355) is turning about 5500 rpms (in high gear of course) at the 330 mark (that's all I run is 330 ft). The 406 would go through at 6000 rpms. I shift at 6400 rpms and chip it at 7000 rpms. So I'd even have trouble in the 1/4. I'd say with this 355, it'd probably make it to the 1000' mark and start hitting the 7000 rpm chip. With the 406, I'd say it might have went 800 ft before it got on the chip, if that.

And my car is planted firm going through the 330, and I generally hold it about 100' past the line. About the only trouble I ever have is it bringing the wheels up, particularly the left front. But it doesn't do that much at all with this 355. It might bring the left front about 5 inches. With the 406, it'd come up a foot. But even at that, the car still went straight. Sounds to me like you'r trying to run too little air pressure, since you're weeving on top end.
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Last Race (10-6-07) So its been awhile...
Dial: 6.77, RT: -.0001, 60': 1.4360, 1/8th: 6.7942 @ 100.65 mph
Fastest Pass of '07 (10-6-07)
60': 1.4360, 330': 4.3453, 1/8th: 6.7942 @ 100.65 mph


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Old 08-07-2005, 11:48 AM   #5
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Been playing w/tire pressure 'till I'm blue in the face... Higher psi(20 or higher)and it just blows the tires. Usually try to find the sweet spot between 18-14psi. depending on track temps/prep. Seems like anything much below 16 and she's a hanfull down track, but at 12-14 she dead hooks, hazes the tires for about one revolution and gets my best 60' #'s. Buddies are going as low as 10-12 w/no issues(subjective).

Suspension is dialed in about as good as it can be w/the pieces on it. Pinion angle is close(-2*), wheels are centered up(adj. LCA's), rear is centered and tracking(Adj. PH rod), SFC's were welded in correctly, and as near as I can tell the rear drag bar is adjusted correctly(adj. spherical rod end links)

The only thing that "may" be an issue is that I've removed the front sway bar for better weight transfer off the line, but can't see that affecting much in a straight line

Dunno what else to look at.... have some other(M6)buddies that are swearing by the new M/T ET Street Radial. Say that their 60' #'s are consistently better than w/the ET Streets(hard to believe), and that it's a sweet ride down track(that I believe... less tire growth/sidewall stabillity). Prolly be trying a pair as soon as the weather cools down a bit.

Love to see what your Vega would do on a mild 200 hit
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1) 1979 Ford Mustang, totally gutted interior except passenger seat, both door crash beams and front and rear bumper assemblies removed, hood and hatch bracing removed, 6 point roll cage welded directly to the front and rear subframes, subframe connectors welded in, 5 point harness, all glass still on the car, reversed front camber plates (gives more front end lift), Boxed rear lower control arms (stock units) with urethane bushings, 9" rear end and 31 spline axles, fuel cell, tranny cooler (fan cooled), and battery in the hatch.

2) V8, 1972 351W block with ported 1969 D0OE heads, 1.94 I/1.60 E manley valves, hardened seats, stock cast crank, 8.5:1 dish top pistons and stock rods with ARP bolts. Comp Cams .519 I/.523 E lift, 274 I/286 E duration, Crane dual springs and retainers, Harland Sharp full roller rockers, Victor Jr. intake, Holley 700 DP carb, Dynomax headers, MSD 6-AL ignition.

3) Unknown HP/TQ numbers, never been dynoed and will not estimate.

4) Trans-King modified C4 with a reverse manual valve body, trans brake, and 4000 stall converter. Hurst Quick Silver ratchet shifter.

5) 3.89:1 gears, Detroit Locker 31 spline differential.

6) 1.548 60 ft; 7.369 1/8 ET; 90.732 1/8 MPH; 11.849 1/4 ET; 113.340 1/4 MPH, all motor, there are no power adders installed, best ever times and speeds achieved are listed.

7) 28x9x15 MT ET Drag slicks.

8) 2520 pounds (certified scale weight) full of fluids without driver.

A totally low budget car, it ran faithfully on 93 octane premium unleaded and was a serious contender at the local strip, in 5 years of racing I posted 8 overall wins (money runs between class winners), 12 class wins, and so many runner-up finishes I can't remember them all. Still have the car but have only raced it twice this year after a 4 year hiatus but took it to the semi's the first week and was runner-up the second week.


That is me with the car after a day's race, pic was taken in 1999.
Sorry for the fuzzy shot, camera operator was a little tipsy!
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AWP... those times are pretty good.... almost a 23 mph gain in the last 660' is scootin'. What's your launch RPM on the brake w/that 1.54 60"?

Dayum you guys...... starting to make me re-think the creature comforts in my ride. With a measily 500#'s removed, the pewter pig "could"(theoretically)be going 10.90's/128ish on motor. Hhmmm.....

The 150 hit that's allready in place "should" be worth an easy 1.000 in ET?... 9.90's/138 mph or so on a stock bottom LS6 sounds good to me Have to be doing some serious driving.... shift points come up qwik on the hose.

I wish I could say my chit is a budget ride.... purchase price + mods have me a little embarrassed at my times considering there are cam only LS1's going 10's .... although most have been on the Jenny Craig plan for awhile...

The damn leather seats in my car are 60#'s a piece. I wonder if carpet, AC/heater, stereo/amp, and seats would get me get close to 500 #'s?

Prolly oughta' just find and old Nova or S-10 or something and gut it. Do a 502" crate motor and go 9's for less than what I've got in the TA..... this is worse than crack

Keep the posts coming guys...
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Old 08-07-2005, 07:58 PM   #8
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Re: Racers.... post your times

Haha. I'd say a 200 shot would be a huge handfull, lol.


And man my 60s sounds awfully slow compared to you AWP9521, lol. Even with the 406, it'd only average a 1.49-1.51, but I know it'd atleast go 6.70s in the 1/8th at around 102 mph (judging by 330 times)! And now with the 355, my best was a 1.61 that happened last night, but my 330 was 4.77 (probably close to what yours was on that 7.30 run in the 1/8th).

In my car's defense, I am probably 2000-2500 ft. above sea level (Southeastern KY). And I'm not at all trying to call BS on yoru times!

And LowET, you may have too much preload in yoru rear suspension. Too much preload will make it wonder on top end as well.

Sometime in the near future, I intend on turning this flat-top 355 into a 13:1 383 stroker. That should give me my power back (and then some).
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Last Race (10-6-07) So its been awhile...
Dial: 6.77, RT: -.0001, 60': 1.4360, 1/8th: 6.7942 @ 100.65 mph
Fastest Pass of '07 (10-6-07)
60': 1.4360, 330': 4.3453, 1/8th: 6.7942 @ 100.65 mph


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AWP... those times are pretty good.... almost a 23 mph gain in the last 660' is scootin'. What's your launch RPM on the brake w/that 1.54 60"?
That 1.56 was not achieved at my local track, the short time there usually runs at low to mid 1.6's which is still pretty respectable, That time posted was at another track about 60 miles from me and was definitely better prepared and hooked like mad, when I was there it would pull the front tires about 6-8 inches off the track! Before we did the camber plate reversal on the stuts the short time was around the high 1.6 to 1.7 area, the extra front extension and the fact the front struts were kind of worn out helped the weight transfer plant the rear end much better.

I launch at 3800 to 4000 on the trans brake depending on the weather conditions at the track, I also have a home made 2-step box with a variable RPM adjustment (somewhere between 2000-4000 adjustment range) and a bypass switch hooked to the MSD but usually have it bypassed (A 6000 RPM chip is also installed on the bypass mode side of the switch to guard against engine over rev on the line in case of converter, flexplate, or input shaft failure) and do a full stall launch, using the 2-step and having the converter flash up to stall didn't seem to help the short time any, in fact it reduced the short time a little.

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And man my 60s sounds awfully slow compared to you AWP9521, lol. Even with the 406, it'd only average a 1.49-1.51, but I know it'd at least go 6.70s in the 1/8th at around 102 mph (judging by 330 times)! And now with the 355, my best was a 1.61 that happened last night, but my 330 was 4.77 (probably close to what yours was on that 7.30 run in the 1/8th).
1.49-1.51 is definitely a great 60 foot time! Oddly enough, my local track doesn't give out 330 or 1000 foot times, just 1/8 and 1/4. I do have some from other tracks though but if my memory serves me correctly, I would hit around the very high 4's to low 5's in the 330 but don't take it as fact as i'm really not certain. Somewhere in this house I have a rather thick folder containing every time slip from every race at every track I have ever been at for those 5 racing seasons, and I know there are 330 as well as 1000 foot times in that folder. If I can locate them I'll edit my post to include the best 330 and 1000 foot time I have achieved, providing I can find them!
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Cool. I'd say going by your 1/8th time, you'd about have to be going atleast 4.80s in the 330. I figure my car with the 355 in it now would probably go around 7.15 in the 1/8th because it is really coming on strong in high gear. Then again, it may not even go 7.30, lol.

All I know is, its a big BIG difference going from 1.49-1.51 (best of 1.464) 60s to 1.62-1.64 (best of 1.61) 60s! A BIG difference, lol.
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Fastest Pass of '07 (10-6-07)
60': 1.4360, 330': 4.3453, 1/8th: 6.7942 @ 100.65 mph


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1) 1991 Toyota MR2 Turbo
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Damn nice #'s Jekyl.... tell me there's a power adder? Props to 377/314, and that ET/mph on a 2.0L How much weight was pulled?
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Yeah there is a power adder ... notice I said "turbo" MR2 I am sporting a GT35R in replace of the tiny OEM unit. I was running a T3T4 for 3 years and switched this season.

Hyde was 2950 lbs when I bought him and I got him down to 2650. My latest project is adding back a few pounds, but it will be worth it.

The 11.7 is actually off pace from where the car should have been this year, but we had a mild tuning issue that messed with us. We should be in the low 11s within the next few weeks.

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Yeah there is a power adder ... notice I said "turbo" MR2
Dohh!!!
Don't see too many imports w/those kinds of #'s around here too often. Why are you adding ballast? Weight break to make class?
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It wasn't my intention to add weight, it just happens to be a side affect tto goingto a significantly larger intercooler
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