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Old 01-08-2004, 03:36 PM   #46
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Re: Nissan 350SX.......what????

not expensive-? my version of non-expensive is $18-22 thousand! 350z not expensive-? geez... will you buy me one then-???
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Old 01-08-2004, 04:27 PM   #47
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Re: Nissan 350SX.......what????

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Let me clue a few of you guys in on US market trends and how they affected sports cars:

In the early 90s, gas prices were at an all-time low and people were gobbling up SUVs by the thousands. However the recent market fall steered many car buyers toward practicality vs fun. The late 80s were a period where high-end sports cars (ie ferrari, porsche, vette) did not offer the performance or reliability that their prices reflected. With their image severely jaded, the downward spiral of sportscar sales had begun.

The svx, RX-7 and 300zx were dopped by the end 96 with the 240sx following shortly afterwards. This is why we didnt get the S15 over here. (and we didnt get the turbo motor earlier because it would have competed with the NA 300zx - which had been a strong seller for nissan for the previous decade).

Today however, gas prices are staying high and suv sales, while still strong, are declining. Most baby boomers are going through their mid-lif-crisis'. Generation Y (characterized by highly intelligent, enterprising, hardworking youth) is reaching first-new-car age, and with the recent growth of the street-racing/drift culture many are determined to buy sporty cars. America is experiencing a rebirth of the sports car, and nissan knows this.

It would be pure insanity for nissan to not be planning a cheap rwd pocketrocket (read ORIGINAL silvia, not the S15) in the next 4 years.

I think Mazda and Nissan are both planning a small cheap 4cyl(maybe rotory for mazda but doubt it) car for the near future and Toyota and Mitsubishi will be planning a slightly bigger car with a V6 costing a little more... I could be way off, but thats what I'm expecting in the next few years...


heres a price list for 2004 cars from motor trend
Mustang Cobra $34,600
Ford Mustang Mach 1 $29,000
Mazda Rx-8 $25,200
Nissan 350z $30,500
Pontiac GTO $31,800
Infiniti G35 $32,500
Audi TT $33,300
BMW Z4 $33,200
Mercedes-Benz C320 $27,700
Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder $28,800
Subaru Impreza WRX STi $31,000
Honda Accord $26,500
Toyota Celica GTS $23,600
Toyota Solara $23,000

not all in the same class really but I just threw in just about any sports/sporty/some-what-sporty car I saw...

I just hope mazda keeps pushing the RX-8 and people start modding those and the price of the FC TII and FD RX-7's drop
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Smile ok.....300SX

A 300SX could cost 25k and be worth every dime. With 250HP it would be a winner. No turbo to worry about and for sure no swap.
Swaps are nice but with all the wiring and ECU stuff to worry about it is not the prime driving car but a second vehicle. My 240 will have 240HP w/o a turbo and that is getting there. With the turbo 300HP is all one needs while everything else, less the clutch is stock. What money will do.....
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Re: ok.....300SX

all i know is that all the new cars are ugly.....jus compare all of those listed to the previous generation

especially the g35 and rx8
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Re: Nissan 350SX.......what????

those prices are listed in base form. 350z base form is 26k. The 30k one is the enthusiast trim. And you forgot S2000, another good competitor, it's at $32,000
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Re: Re: Nissan 350SX.......what????

id rather have a s2k over a z33 anyday
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S2k over Z, humm ... i think the s2k has more after market suport "i think" but dude were nissan people right! So pick the Z!


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Old 01-09-2004, 06:36 PM   #53
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Re: Nissan 350SX.......what????

nissan is gay now.... look at their lineup of cars

pieces of shit.... the 350z looks liek a space ship...

actually, every car maker as gone the way of the PT cruiser.. GAYNESS

the onyl cars left in this world are the s2000 and altezza....
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$26k is relatively cheap i think, considering the performance you get. 300zxTTs were $35k+ new I think, and that was 10 years ago when $35k would get you a new vette.

BTW, personaly I'd get a Z over a S2000 b/c its cheaper and the engine has more potential. Plus it looks so much better IMO.

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My 240 will have 240HP w/o a turbo and that is getting there
240hp on a N/A KA24? Sounds interesting, what have you done?
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Well look at this way, even dedicated enthusiast car companies are trading their legacy and enthusiasm for profit; take the Porsh cayan...
WTF are Porsh thinking, suv? what next a mini van!

Nissans are trying, there the first to jump start the japanis speed cars market in the US by introducing the Z, give them that at least!
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Its not as bad as it seems. Though I detest the cayenne, I am glad it exists. Without it there would be no Carrera GT.
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Re: Nissan 350SX.......what????

Cayenne, I cant even spell it he he , what dose it mean? i think it means some kind of spices... I don't know....
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it means shit in latin
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Re: Nissan 350SX.......what????

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just my 2 cents

with the "recently" released 350z, rx-8, s2000, new imprezas it seems as if the 6cyl market is quite competetive however if you look at the 4cyl sports car market u get the celicas, rsx, mr-2 spyders...but where exaclty is nissan competing with these 4cyl coupes....i dont see one, and not to mention the "slump" nissan had during the 90's, they are a replenished and thriving company with a new breed of cars, the x-terra pulled them out of the hole...the new altimas and maximas led the way, and the 350 is a feat of mechanical genius, they now are just beginning to introduce the Titan, which im sure if its anything like the altimas, maximas etc. will also be an amazing automobile. With this new energy and sense of direction, they almost have to come out with a 4cyl coupe to compete with the sleek competetion.

it may not be an sx, although many of us think that with the new Z, a new sx might be hopefull, the Z cars have been around over 4 decades, and the sx is relatively new, yes there may never be another silvia or sx, but perhaps in the near future we will see another creation by this great company, that although its not called a sx/silvia, we will know where its roots came from.....one of the few great 4cyl rwds ever made (in our time)...the 240sx
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