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11-13-2004, 04:08 PM | #61 | |
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Re: Which of these subs would you get?
you might want to look into a couple other companys also
www.stereointegrity.com www.soundsplinter.com www.orioncaraudio.com |
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11-13-2004, 04:52 PM | #62 | |
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Re: Which of these subs would you get?
every W6v2 set up ive ever heard has had around the SQ of 3500 SQ set ups ive heard. of course around here all w6set ups are SPL because that is all people car about so that is all the idiotic shops install... im one of the few in this town that does my own audio work... so really i shouldnt have bashed the w6v2's but i was going on personal experence...
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11-13-2004, 07:22 PM | #63 | |
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the w6v2 is an extremely great sq sub......
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sure you can tune the port lower. you smoothen out the response down low, but guess what, you'll also lose top-end. Your rolloff will be at a lower freq. than if you were to tune it at a higher freq. [quote] 75mm is what it takes to bottom out the suspension. which can be done with out, as sr20 stated, thermaling the coils. [quote] if 75mm is the suspension, then why imply it was peak to peak xmax when comparing with the XXX? Also, the limits on the suspension does not relate to the thermal power of the coil. My idmax in an infinite baffle will reach full excursion with only 300w, but the coil will take up to 1kw daily. Quote:
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The design of the XBL^2 is cheaper than the DMA of JL. They have the SAME goals, but different approach to it. The XBL^2 has the top plate designed to channel flux, so you don't lose as much BL when your cone moves. In the JL audio, the vented pole piece is crossed-drilled to channel the flux. With JL's method, you would need to have a longer coil, and that increases the inductance. JL's method is more expensive than Adire's method. Quote:
As yourself this, are you really going to buy a sub at MSRP? You can get a 13w7 with warranty if you know where to look. that "only" 300 more is now "only" 700 more. I'll take (2) 13w7 over a 9917.
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11-14-2004, 09:43 AM | #65 | |
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Re: Which of these subs would you get?
well 1299 is also MSRP for the 9917... you can get them for probably 950 new and 600 used and 400 if they have a burnt coil. id say buy the one with the burnt coil from an SPL competitor. and then send it off to DD to have it reconed and/or just re-coiled. im not sure of DD's prices for that as they constantly vary but it would probably cost you around 150 for just a recoil and around 300 for recone and recoil. id go through all that hassle to me some DD's.... another thing, i liek to be different... 17's by a company no one has heard of... well yes i would spend the extra 300 or w/e for it. but thats just me.
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11-14-2004, 10:40 AM | #66 | |
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Re: Which of these subs would you get?
DD can put in a new coil without a whole new spider/cone assembly? didn't know that. lol.
Last i checked for the 9500, reconing was around 250 also +/- $50 . I found a blown 9515 for $100+shipping last time, but it was the b-model, not e
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11-14-2004, 11:18 AM | #67 | |
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Re: Which of these subs would you get?
im sorry, i had it backwards, its 150 if the coil is still good but your gone has say a hole in it or something.
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11-14-2004, 03:44 PM | #68 | |
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Re: Which of these subs would you get?
May i ask a question, why is one 15" better then two 12"?
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11-16-2004, 02:03 AM | #70 | |
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Good thread, I've learned more in one week than I have in 5 years because of all of this debating and great responses to my questions. Thanks everyone! Now my final obstacle to overcome is a design for a box to fit into the trunk of a 1998 Pontiac Grand Prix GT. I'll post the dimensions in a second.
Interior Cargo Volume 16.0cu.ft
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11-16-2004, 02:55 PM | #71 | |
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Also, would the ZRS-9 amplifier be considerably better for a single 15" XXX over the ZRS-8?
http://www.audio-direct.com/cgi-bin/...?itemnum=ZRS-9 Also, what exactly is the Magic 3 upgrade?
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imo thats too much for a sub amp..........get a jbl 1200.1 or two, or three and your still under the price of that amp, a waste if ya ask me....
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11-16-2004, 03:19 PM | #73 | |
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I don't like JBL all that much.
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Re: Which of these subs would you get?
At the most you'll only gain about a decibel by going with the zrs-9 over the 8, but you will gain some headroom. The zrs-8 should put out a bit over 1500 anyway, I think it would be fine.
And sure you could buy a lot of JBLs for less, but they aren't as good, no matter how many you have. The sound quality isn't as good, and their 1ohm stability is questionable. I would much rather have mine over a pair of brutus 1500ds or a pair of JBL 1200.1s. In my opinion if you have the money it's not a bad choice at all, I still have yet to read a negative review on any cadence amp, period. And I also noticed a significant improvement in sound quality when I switched from my Avionixx to the Cadence.
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