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05-06-2004, 09:27 PM | #31 | ||
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05-07-2004, 01:06 AM | #32 | ||
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The Alero is an interesting case. At the time, it was the best that GM could do, and in a vacuum, it's a pretty good car. OK styling, decently designed interior, etc. But compare it to any conteporary car from a Japanese manufacturer, and it's easy to see why Olds is now shuttered. As an import fighter (Olds' designated role at GM before its demise), it just didn't stack up. It's unfortunate, really. I hate seeing a historic marque like Olds disappear because of GM's inteptitude at screwing cars together. Luckily, it looks like things are actually changing at the company now that Lutz is aboard. Hope it sticks.
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05-08-2004, 01:43 PM | #33 | |
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I'm a little sad that Oldsmobile is gone. I have a really good feeling that if GM keeps doing well, we'll see the nameplate later down the road (not for at least 10-15 years). For a very low 20's car, the Alero is great. I test drove many many used vehicles before I bought mine, and I seriously think that out of all of them, the Alero had the most soul. I drove a Honda Civic, Accord, Toyota Camry, VW Jetta (which I love but I could only afford a GL which came pretty bare), Pontiac Grand Am, ect. I had to go with four door vehicles because my insurance would have skyrocketed since I'm 17. Of course I think that if I were to test drive the V6 Accord (which I couldnt afford) I would have wanted that. But for my price range 12K-13.5K, I think I made the best choice. There was no way that I was going to find even a 4cly Accord with 25K miles on it, which my Alero had when I got it, and it was only a year old. I ended up paying only 10K.
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05-08-2004, 02:48 PM | #34 | |
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my take on things:
i think that we should look at the price of hondas vs gm. i've got a civic because i could buy a 2000 si for $5,900 and modify it, and still have spent under $15k. not because i love civics, but because i'm 16 and just don't have enough cash to pay for gas, insurance, and mods of a muscle car. but just as a note, my dream car is a corvette |
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05-09-2004, 12:15 AM | #35 | |
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Personally, I don't spend much more on gas than if I had an average 4cly engine and I drive 15 miles to school and back all city.
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05-09-2004, 12:39 AM | #36 | |
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you all are retarded you dont know anything about either side and are making amazing generalizations that astonish me you can make any car fast honestly any car some just take a really long time to and some come that way or maybe some people like to turn or somethign i dunno but fuck you guys
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05-09-2004, 12:42 AM | #37 | |
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sorry not all of you are retarded just the ones that are making broad sweeping generalizations the posts toward the end are starting to make sense
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05-09-2004, 12:50 AM | #38 | ||
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You like what you like. Youre still going to spend money on making it fast.
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05-09-2004, 01:15 AM | #39 | ||
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taking back what i said earlier... i agree with everyone... its the attitude of the driver not the car... v8s are nice when used properly and not for compensation. I hate guys who think they're all that cuz they got 8.1L suburban and think they own the road so they can cut me off.. man that pisses me off.
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05-09-2004, 03:39 PM | #40 | ||
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05-10-2004, 02:30 AM | #41 | |
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again, we're back to sweeping generalizations.
ill remind the domestic fans, that for every civic ex with a 4 foot wing and a rice can exhaust thinking they can pull on your pushrod, there is a 6 cylinder mustang or camaro thinking they can pull on my prelude. the "honda racer" image is not just for honda owners. ive seen several mustang, camaro, and even corvette (not to mention cavalier and neon *snicker*) owners that fit the bill just as well. and import owners who scream "youll kick my ass in the quarter, but youll never catch me on the street" ill remind you that pontiac trans am/camaro ss have done better on countless road courses than supras, 240's and S2000's. though i'll take my 35 MPG (in the city!) over a 10 second pushrod any day
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Later on this year Im going to be buying a fox body stang (5spd Lx here sell for $2-3k in really good condition) and build it up since what Im planning to do to my car will void the shit out of my warranty and leave me with a car thats not designed for daily driving. I got some cash laying around.
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05-15-2004, 07:14 PM | #44 | |
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alright, back in the post i saw someone making fun of a civic reving to 6k. have you ever seen the Spoon civic? it revs to 12k, 2 times more than your clear "estimate".
the thing is.... Muscle cars = hard steel, power. meaning that its all beef, little technology. just the pistons, and block, thats all they do. import cars = technology. they have more than the engine powering them, like high tech ECUs, and turbos. its all about what you want, your personality. do you want low-tech, plain power, or hi-tech, advanced power. |
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05-16-2004, 01:39 AM | #45 | |
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That's funny you talk about technology because if you knew anything about DOHC and OHV engines, you would know, like I stated earlier, the DOHC design is much older than that of the OHV. Also, it's pretty funny you bring up turbos. You need that crap to do what our naturally asperated engines do already.
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