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Old 04-15-2006, 03:04 AM   #46
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Re: The next performance car after the GT?

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No its not on hold it has been shelved just like the next lightning
Well word is (from www.blueovalnews.com) that the car hasn't been officially terminated. Nore has the Lightning for that matter. The Cobra moniker has been dropped from the SVT Mustang, for now the GT500 will carry the performance load for Ford, and if the GSR1 is made it will be named Cobra. SVT is to make two trucks one small or mid-sized (the Adreneline) and another to be ?. As well there may be a GT350 Mustang in the works, as well as a Bullitt, Mach 1, California Special, GT Hertz (possibly 350), and maybe even a Boss. An SVT Fusion which was to debut in 07' is questionable as to being an 08' model or being terminated. The one thing that saddens me is that Ford has seemed to have givin' up on Lincoln making the brand nothing more than their version of Acura and not even trying to compete with BMW, and Mercedes let alone Cadillac.
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Old 04-17-2006, 10:44 AM   #47
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Re: The next performance car after the GT?

SVT died on April 1 this year and no that was not a joke
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=109512

California Special - nothing more than a pony package for the GT http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...66#post3988666
GT Hertz – limited to only 500 units sold to Hertz rent a car
“SVT” Fusion - if it is built it will be nothing more than its Mazdaspeed counter part

Bullitt - on hold
Mach 1 - on hold
GT350 Mustang - no official word on this
Boss - no official word on this (Team Shinoda still has use of the name BOSS on the mustang)
Lightning - was canceled in late 2004
Adrenaline - was canceled as part of Ford’s "Way Forward" restructuring campaign this year

Lincoln is going to be competing with Cadillac more just have a look at this ugly grill


Blue oval news is largely propaganda. Yes there is some good info there but trust nothing on the forums about future cars and never listen to their hype. Just take a look at how they hype up the GT/CS
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Would Ford bring back the Boss? Could they be contemplating another Mach 1? How about another Bullitt? Their wait is now over: While the competition scrambles once again to play catch-up to Ford, Mustang momentum continues to grow with the introduction of the uniquely styled, limited-edition 2007 Mustang GT/CS”
The GT/CS is nothing more than like I said a pony package for the GT. It just “snazzy stripes”, a hood, and bumper there is no performance to be found in this beyond what is in the base GT. When they stated “While the competition scrambles once again to play catch-up to Ford, Mustang” they evidently forgot about the Charger R/T Daytona. Ford is the one playing catch-up in calling it a “special edition” based only looks not added performance.
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I don't think I claimed the CS/GT to be anything more than a package, and as for Lincoln competing with Cadillac I still don't see that happening anytime soon with the exception of big SUVs. Eveything else from Lincoln seems to be glorified Mazdas and Volvos, all FWD based platforms, with AWD options but still FWD based. I agree the Navi is butt ugly especially with that grill. As a metter of fact Lincoln in general is loosing the trademark "waterfall" grill on all it's models. When Jay Mays left it started a downward spiral.
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Re: The next performance car after the GT?

The loss of the DEW98 is what doomed the Lincoln car line up. The LS was really their only great car and its replacement is crap. Untill there is a production IRS for the S197 Lincoln will not have a good starting point to work from.
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they evidently forgot about the Charger R/T Daytona.
Yes, Dodge did forget about the real Dayonta R/T.

http://aerowarriors.com/cgi-bin/banner/home.cgi

None of Chrysler's SRT8 cars come with a manual transmission.
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thankfully have been largely forgotten.
Except for the CSX VNT's turbocharger which predated that of the new Porche 911 Turbo.

Turbochargers with variable geometry has been used before.

The 1989 Dodge Shelby Shadow CSX VNT used movable vanes around the turbine.

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Old 04-18-2006, 09:03 AM   #52
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None of Chrysler's SRT8 cars come with a manual transmission.
Your point being?

The Shelby GT-H is going to be an auto only car and the GT500 is only going to be made with a TR6060 6-speed manual. Why don’t you go over to SVTperformance and ask how many people want an auto in the GT500. The numbers may surprise you.
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Old 04-18-2006, 09:21 AM   #53
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Except for the CSX VNT's turbocharger which predated that of the new Porche 911 Turbo.

Turbochargers with variable geometry has been used before.

The 1989 Dodge Shelby Shadow CSX VNT used movable vanes around the turbine.
And it was still put in an unimpressive front wheel drive car. So what is the BFD? The first Ford aluminum 4-valve mod motor was found in the in the 1993 Lincoln Mark VIII and without it you wouldn’t have the Ford GT engine of today. Does that make the 93 Mark VIII a great car or even one to be remembered decades from now? No not by a long shot.
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Re: The next performance car after the GT?

well all i know is that ford needs to come up with something, right now they are about the only company that doesnt have a really high performance car in its lineup, that is after the GT is officially gone.
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well all i know is that ford needs to come up with something, right now they are about the only company that doesnt have a really high performance car in its lineup, that is after the GT is officially gone.
Yea and I agree however they don't need another $150K car that is what Aston Martin is for. What Ford needs is a decently priced sports car not a Mustang but a real 2 seat RWD sports car with good handling, brakes, and power without a band-aid. For those of you who didn’t think it was possible for the Ford MOD motor to make power with out a supercharger Koenigsegg did what you thought was impossible and got 806bhp with only 4.7L
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Yea and I agree however they don't need another $150K car that is what Aston Martin is for. What Ford needs is a decently priced sports car not a Mustang but a real 2 seat RWD sports car with good handling, brakes, and power without a band-aid. For those of you who didn’t think it was possible for the Ford MOD motor to make power with out a supercharger Koenigsegg did what you thought was impossible and got 806bhp with only 4.7L
looks like ford needs to take some pointers from them, hows the powerband on the engine?
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01l2cobra wrote:
"Just take a look at how they hype up the GT/CS

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Would Ford bring back the Boss? Could they be contemplating another Mach 1? How about another Bullitt? Their wait is now over: While the competition scrambles once again to play catch-up to Ford, Mustang momentum continues to grow with the introduction of the uniquely styled, limited-edition 2007 Mustang GT/CS”

The GT/CS is nothing more than like I said a pony package for the GT. It just “snazzy stripes”, a hood, and bumper there is no performance to be found in this beyond what is in the base GT."

Hm, perhaps that's what they meant by "the uniquely STYLED" but hey, that's just my take on it... ;-)
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Re: The next performance car after the GT?

When you hear Boss, Mach 1, and to a lesser extent Bullitt you think performance not just looks. The GT/CS should NEVER be mentioned in context with those cars. Then this comment "While the competition scrambles once again to play catch-up to Ford" so what is this a looks competition now? If so Ford lost. The Charger Daytona looks much better even with 4 doors.
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The Charger Daytona looks much better even with 4 doors.

ummm, no
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ummm, no
um yea

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