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07-19-2004, 12:58 PM | #1 | |
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BMW: Consumers Just Don’t Understand
SUMMARY: <font size=3><font size=2>Ever since the debut of the current generation BMW 7 series, many auto enthusiasts and journalists have been screaming for the head Chris Bangle, BMW’s design chief. He’s the man most publicly responsible for the design change going on at the maker of “ultimate driving machines.”</font> </font>
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07-30-2004, 03:16 AM | #2 | |
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As a devotee of the Bavarian Car Manufacturer, I shall always remain allegiant to BMW. Let me cite to you that Chief of Design Chris Bangle is no rookie. Just the occurence that his creations.... sorry, i mean works of art are getting so much concentration and heed tells you something. Chris Bangle is a rather calm, cool, and collected guy. These are the characteristics in a person a corporation of this magnitude can use. Every where i go, i manage to mark a new 7series gracefully moving about the streets. I see the redesigned 5series repeatedly sauntering through suburb roads with its crisp confidence. The 6series is simply flamboyant and gaudy in both forms, coupe and cabrio. The advertisments of "Land Sharks" are a mere understatment for the outlandish piece of machinery as the z4. The agility it offers and exclusivity is just superb. It retains its roadster feel with its long bonnet and minor-league trunk. As for Chris Bangles IDrive, Whats wrong with it? It is a simple innovation. Sure it might get a little getting use to, but im sure its for the best in the long run. Why encumber a man with criticism for trying to free up space in the cabin and keep the driver more focused on the more significant aspect, driving.
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07-30-2004, 03:17 AM | #3 | |
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the new 7 series is bad as hell!
rollin on 22's i like the design |
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Eliminating clutter is an admirable goal, but when that elimination of clutter starts to INTERFERE with the driving experience, there is a problem. Really, Chevrolet has a more ergonomical method of turning on seat-heaters than BMW does, thanks entirely to iDrive - if Mr. Bangle is being trounced by such an automotive laughingstock as this, perhaps it's because he did not give his iDrive system the appropriate thinking-through. If he's putting cabin appearance above driver convenience, which is what iDrive is doing whether you like it or not, he could at least craft Audi or Lexus-quality interiors to go along with it. |
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I think the final answer to the questions about Bangle's talents will simply be the popularity of the models he's responsible for. Unfortunately for BMW, July didn't look good. The 5 series dropped substantially from July of 2003: 5,313 units in '03 to 2,668 units in '04. The 7 series went from 1,595 units in July '03 to 876 units in July of '04. The Z4 is also down compared to the Z3 last year. The X3 has picked up steam, thanks partly to very nice lease deals (under $300/month).
Personally, I've gotten used to the 7 series in dark colors. I see a bunch of them around Palm Springs all the time. I'd still take an A8 over it in a hearbeat, however. I haven't seen too many 5 series models, but those headlights just look gaudy, IMO. i-Drive, well.... It was a nice idea. Trying to reduce the clutter of buttons on the IP is honorable, but I think i-Drive was just too far outside of the expected "norm" for many. I'm just eagerly awaiting the 3 series. Speaking of, didn't Bangle head the design effort for the current model? Mike Cervantes AutomotiveArticles.com Editor-in-Chief |
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08-12-2004, 05:08 PM | #6 | |
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Upon reading the beginning of your reply, i have determined that you base your arguing motive solely on opinion.
EX: Chris Bangle designs bad looking cars.... Chris Bangles cars have embraced oddball styling and Saab- like quirkiness....etc You must retrospect that not all people project like you. Now i understand that I have also incorporated opinion in my recent post as well but thats because my opinion is right and everyone thinks like me and wants to be me. As for your remarks of the 7-series' backpacks and lights. The deck lid may befuddle some onlookers at first but when they notice the significant extent to which the cargo room has enhanced, it will send them straight to the nearest synagogue in thanks for Chris bangles sheer wisdomness. As for the 7 series' turn signals above the headlamps, they are conventionally located for purpose. By having more surface area for the blinkers, they keep in touch with road safety by not being too puny for the eye. Same goes for the 5-seires. As for your remarks on the 6-series, i am fortuitous to see you agree with me that it is a gorgeous and elegant car but i have one nut to crush with your reply. How can you compare the redesigned 6 with a "CL-class and V-50." Do you know what a V-50 is??? Just for reassurance i will provide you with this link for insight... www.allnewv50.com. -I think i proved my punto. Ultimately, the z4. Now you uttered that the predecessor (z3) was a much better looking car. Well Eamin, Dont you think if the z3 was better looking they would have kept it and just restyled it a bit??? Obviously the z4 is a much superior automobile that perfects every segment the z3 didnt. Thats the main reason why it can stay ahead of such competitors as the boxster (Porsche, just incase). Also, what i would so dearly like to know is why are you ridiculing Chris Bangles creations when your profile says you have a 760??? And ontop of that, you purchased a 760 rather than the 745! What Does this show us, boys and girls??? Well, it shows that Eamin has a keen taste for craftmanship and would pay $80,000 (plus $40,000 for 760 treatment) for a BMW. I find this highly ironic since you also critisized IDrive. Last time i checked the 760 comes with IDrive..... Plus, since you own a 760 equipped with IDrive, i am confused because you stated that the IDrive turns the seat heaters on. Welcome to "IDrive 101" Lesson One: THE IDrive HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SEAT HEATERS. I think you should stop being influenced by magazine hype and wake up and smell the perforated BMW leather. Eamin, i think you have no place here in automotive enthusiam so i think it is best if you go back to Graffe.com. |
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08-12-2004, 05:27 PM | #7 | |
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no matter what kind of design or model a car is, whenever it's changed you will always have followers and you will always have abandoners
some people like the new style, some don't, that's the beauty of the automotive industry, you can pick and choose what you like and criticize what you don't and as for the new design, i don't really like the front end much - too aggressive and jus plain weird looking, but we could all say the same about the xA xB and the Element eh
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08-12-2004, 06:47 PM | #8 | |
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Ill agree with 75% of your reply...that last part isnt exactly titillating me..
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08-12-2004, 09:00 PM | #9 | |
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i knew you would say that : P
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lol I can be very predictable.. hey you should install some suicide doors on that civic...
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08-13-2004, 10:08 AM | #11 | |
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lolz, if only i had the money - but i'd give her a new paintjob first and keep it looking clean
what do you drive?
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08-13-2004, 11:43 AM | #12 | |
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I had a recent quarrel with the law which left me without a car hitherto.
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08-13-2004, 02:14 PM | #13 | |
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ewwy, sry 2 hear that
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How old are you? Do you have an occupation?
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08-13-2004, 05:11 PM | #15 | |
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