Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online! Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online!
Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online! 
-
Latest | 0 Rplys
Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Cars in General
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Email this Page Email this Page | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-30-2006, 06:48 AM   #16
Cl0ak
AF Enthusiast
 
Cl0ak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Waterbury, Connecticut
Posts: 918
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: U like the 93' caviler?

Its the same as making any small 4 cylinder fast. You want serious speed you need a turbocharger/supercharger and that brings on a whole mess of engine upgrades too so its going to cost big bucks. If you want something fast just go out and buy a camaro or a trans am. Otherwise you're going to have to do some serious modding to get to 300hp.
__________________


95 Pontiac Trans Am SOLD
03 Chevrolet Cavalier SOLD
03 Mercury Sable
Cl0ak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 08:24 AM   #17
BlackGT2000
AF Enthusiast
 
BlackGT2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: pottstown, Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,796
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Re: U like the 93' caviler?

Nicely put
__________________
Currently own -2007 Civic EX coupe
Have owned -1999 Dodge Dakota
-2000 Mustang GT
-1991 Cavalier
-1997 Taurus GL
-1987 Ranger V6
-1985 Aries
BlackGT2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 09:29 AM   #18
Theturbo551
Banned
Thread starter
 
Theturbo551's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sucks, New Jersey
Posts: 74
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: U like the 93' caviler?

So bigger engines are less expensive to modify because there easier?
Theturbo551 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 11:02 AM   #19
beef_bourito
AF Enthusiast
 
beef_bourito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 3,191
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: U like the 93' caviler?

camaros and trans ams come with the 350 small block, they're everywhere. finding mods for them is about the easiest thing you can do and they're cheap. modifying one of those to get a high ammount of horsepower is really cheap and easy compared to a 4 cylender because they already start off with more power and torque so you don't have to do much to have a fast car.
__________________
Mr. T doesn't pity anyone who likes the Black Eyed Peas. He just kills them.

Mr. T speaks only when necessary. His main form of communication is folding his arms and slowly shaking his head. And regardless of the situation, he is always understood.

On the A-team, Face , Haniabal, and Murdoch were all masters of disguise. Mr T didn't have to wear a disguise. The bad guys didn't recognize him out of fear.
beef_bourito is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 12:25 PM   #20
G-man422
AF Fanatic
 
G-man422's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Mansfield, Ohio
Posts: 5,142
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Send a message via AIM to G-man422
Re: U like the 93' caviler?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Theturbo551
So bigger engines are less expensive to modify because there easier?
Not neccisarily easier. Think of it this way:
If you have an engine thats say a 2.4 liter 4cylinderengine, (thats a little bigger than the size of a bottle of pop) there is that much room for the processes combustion wich results in your power. And because 4 cylinder engines were not created to smoke some guy you're racing, they dont need as strong of parts.

But say you have a 4.8 liter V8. thats double the amount of room, resulting in more space for the procceses to occure. This means more power, and more room to push compressed air into, giveing you the ability to have more power. and because V8's are usually made to handle higher amounts of power, then they are USUALLY easier to mod.

Sorry if this sounds stupid, but im just trying to help you understand in a different way.
G-man422 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 03:01 PM   #21
Theturbo551
Banned
Thread starter
 
Theturbo551's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sucks, New Jersey
Posts: 74
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Exclamation Re: U like the 93' caviler?

Quote:
Originally Posted by G-man422
Not neccisarily easier. Think of it this way:
If you have an engine thats say a 2.4 liter 4cylinderengine, (thats a little bigger than the size of a bottle of pop) there is that much room for the processes combustion wich results in your power. And because 4 cylinder engines were not created to smoke some guy you're racing, they dont need as strong of parts.

But say you have a 4.8 liter V8. thats double the amount of room, resulting in more space for the procceses to occure. This means more power, and more room to push compressed air into, giveing you the ability to have more power. and because V8's are usually made to handle higher amounts of power, then they are USUALLY easier to mod.

Sorry if this sounds stupid, but im just trying to help you understand in a different way.
Yes I see what your saying but people mod 4 cyl all the time. Watch the fast and the furious (I know it's alittle unrealistic NOS wooo!z) but still it show that you can do stuff to civics, evo's, etc. But as we'll V6's and up are prob better to modify because it's cheaper to do. Like turbo intake, heads, etc.
Theturbo551 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 05:37 PM   #22
beef_bourito
AF Enthusiast
 
beef_bourito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 3,191
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: U like the 93' caviler?

F&F doesn't show anything, they don't really make those cars super fast, it's all computer trickery and camera work. and obviously you can make civics and the like fast, it'll just cost you more money than making a cheap V8 fast, especially the chevy 350sb.
__________________
Mr. T doesn't pity anyone who likes the Black Eyed Peas. He just kills them.

Mr. T speaks only when necessary. His main form of communication is folding his arms and slowly shaking his head. And regardless of the situation, he is always understood.

On the A-team, Face , Haniabal, and Murdoch were all masters of disguise. Mr T didn't have to wear a disguise. The bad guys didn't recognize him out of fear.
beef_bourito is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 09:57 PM   #23
Theturbo551
Banned
Thread starter
 
Theturbo551's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sucks, New Jersey
Posts: 74
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: U like the 93' caviler?

Quote:
Originally Posted by beef_bourito
F&F doesn't show anything, they don't really make those cars super fast, it's all computer trickery and camera work. and obviously you can make civics and the like fast, it'll just cost you more money than making a cheap V8 fast, especially the chevy 350sb.
Dude you can modify 4 cyl. just like V8's. Lol ther are high 8's second 4 cyl's. out there they just take more money.
Theturbo551 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 09:59 PM   #24
beef_bourito
AF Enthusiast
 
beef_bourito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 3,191
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: U like the 93' caviler?

yeah, which is exactly what i said. reread my post you'll see that i wrote "sure you can make civics and the like fast, it'll just cost you more money than making a cheap V8 fast, especially the chevy 350sb."
__________________
Mr. T doesn't pity anyone who likes the Black Eyed Peas. He just kills them.

Mr. T speaks only when necessary. His main form of communication is folding his arms and slowly shaking his head. And regardless of the situation, he is always understood.

On the A-team, Face , Haniabal, and Murdoch were all masters of disguise. Mr T didn't have to wear a disguise. The bad guys didn't recognize him out of fear.
beef_bourito is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 10:01 PM   #25
1969CamaroSS350
AF Regular
 
1969CamaroSS350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Fall River, Massachusetts
Posts: 72
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: U like the 93' caviler?

I would say if you really like that style Cavalier go for a Z24 with a 5-Speed. Pretty quick car for what it is, 0-60 in the low 8's I think. I actually was think about selling my Corolla for one but I found the Mark VIII.
__________________
1969 Chevrolet Camaro - In The Process Of Being Restored, 350 V8 and 2-Speed PowerGlide
1993 Toyota Corolla LE - Stock, 16-Valve DOHC 1.8 In-Line 4, Automatic
"I didn't mean to wreck him, I just meant to rattle his cage a bit." - Dale Earnhardt
1969CamaroSS350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2007, 03:36 PM   #26
Cl0ak
AF Enthusiast
 
Cl0ak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Waterbury, Connecticut
Posts: 918
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: U like the 93' caviler?

If theres any for sale in your area, chevy berettas are pretty nice cars. Same styling basically. The 93 GTZ I had came with 175hp and a 5 speed.
__________________


95 Pontiac Trans Am SOLD
03 Chevrolet Cavalier SOLD
03 Mercury Sable
Cl0ak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 09:34 AM   #27
blakscorpion21
AF Enthusiast
 
blakscorpion21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: cleveland, Tennessee
Posts: 1,338
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: U like the 93' caviler?

the modability of a car is all about the aftermarket. cars like f bodies, mustangs, supras, civics, and 240sx's have large aftermarkets and are easy to modify and find parts for. caviliers do not have a large aftermarket so its gonna be harder. personally i think the z24 cavy is a great daily driver. its not fast but its not slow either. plus its small enough to whip around some country roads. and it gets good mileage.
__________________
blakscorpion21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 07:52 PM   #28
Theturbo551
Banned
Thread starter
 
Theturbo551's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sucks, New Jersey
Posts: 74
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: U like the 93' caviler?

Ye, ur saying V8's are easier to modify & cheaper because there made to handle more power and are more powerful than 4 cyl. 4 cyl. are more money to modify main point.
Theturbo551 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2007, 02:01 PM   #29
blakscorpion21
AF Enthusiast
 
blakscorpion21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: cleveland, Tennessee
Posts: 1,338
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: U like the 93' caviler?

no, i said cars with a large aftermarket are easy to modify. engine size plays little part. if you are talking about max power attainable then yes engine size determines alot.
__________________
blakscorpion21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2007, 07:43 PM   #30
Theturbo551
Banned
Thread starter
 
Theturbo551's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sucks, New Jersey
Posts: 74
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: U like the 93' caviler?

Quote:
Originally Posted by blakscorpion21
no, i said cars with a large aftermarket are easy to modify. engine size plays little part. if you are talking about max power attainable then yes engine size determines alot.
Yes, Cars with bigger engines are less expensive to modify and you can get more power out of them for the price. and period.
Theturbo551 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Cars in General

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:36 PM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts