Is america doing any better in the past 25+years?

[youngvr4]

has american monsters got faster in the last 25+ years


50 FASTEST MUSCLECARS
# YEAR/MODEL ET/MPH ENGINE HP TRANS GEAR SOURCE
1 1966 427 Cobra 12.20@118 427 8V 425 4-Speed 3.54 CC 11/65
2 1966 Corvette 427 12.8@112 L72 427 425 4-Speed 3.36 CD 11/65
3 1969 Road Runner 12.91@111.8 440 Six BBL 390 4-Speed 4.10 SS 6/69
4 1970 Hemi Cuda 13.10@107.12 426 Hemi 425 4-Speed 3.54 CC 11/69
5 1970 Chevelle SS454 13.12@107.01 454 LS6 450 4-Speed 3.55 CC 11/69
6 1969 Camaro 13.16@110.21 427 ZL1 430 4-Speed 4.10 HC 6/69
7 1968 Corvette 13.30@108 427 6V 435 4-Speed 3.70 HC 5/68
8 1970 Road Runner 13.34@107.5 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 SS 12/69
9 1970 Buick GS Stage I 13.38@105.5 455 Stage I 360 automatic 3.64 MT 1/70
10 1968 Corvette 427 13.41@109.5 L72 427 425 4-Speed 3.55 CD 6/68
11 1969 Charger 500 13.48@109 426 Hemi 425 4-Speed 4.10 HR 2/69
12 1968 Charger 13.50@105 426 Hemi 425 automatic 3.23 CD 11/67
12 1970 Plymouth Superbird 13.50@105 426 Hemi 425 ? ? ?
14 1968 Road Runner 13.54@105.1 426 Hemi 425 automatic 3.55 CD 1/69
15 1973 Trans Am 13.54@104.29 455 SD 310 automatic 3.42 HR 6/73
16 1969 Corvette 13.56@111.1 427 L88 430 automatic 3.36 HR 4/69
17 1969 Super Bee 13.56@105.6 440 Six Pack 390 automatic 4.10 HR 8/69
18 1969 Boss 429 Mustang 13.60@106 Boss 429 375 4-Speed 3.91 HC 9/69
19 1970 Challenger R/T 13.62@104.3 440 Six Pack 390 automatic 3.23 CC 11/69
20 1970 Torino Cobra 13.63@105.9 429 SCJ 370 automatic 3.91 SS 3/70
21 1968 Biscayne 13.65@105 427 L72 425 4-Speed 4.56 SS 4/68
22 1964 Polara 500 13.70@107.37 426 4V 365 4-Speed 3.23 HC 2/64
23 1969 GTX 13.70@102.8 440 4V 375 automatic 4.10 MT 1/69
24 1969 Dart 440 13.71@105 440 4V 375 automatic 3.55 CC 5/69
25 1971 Road Runner 13.71@101.2 440 Six BBL 390 automatic 4.10 CC 1/71
26 1971 Cuda 13.72@106 440 Six BBL 390 automatic 4.10 SS 4/71
27 1971 Corvette 13.72@102.04 454 LS6 450 4-Speed 3.36 CL 8/71
28 1971 Super Bee 13.73@104 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 MT 12/70
29 1968 Hurst/Olds 13.77@103.91 455 W-30 390 automatic 3.91 SS 8/68
30 1970 Hemi 'Cuda 13.78@101.2 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 MT 9/69
31 1968 Firebird 13.79@106 400 HO 335 4-Speed N/A HR 3/68
32 1967 Corvette 13.80@108 427 6V 435 4-Speed 3.55 HR 5/67
33 1965 Catalina 13.80@106 421 6V ? 4-Speed 3.42 CD 3/65
34 1969 Super Bee Six Pack 13.80@104.2 440 Six BBL 390 automatic 4.10 CD 7/69
35 1971 Boss 351 Mustang 13.80@104 Boss 351 330 4-Speed 3.91 MT 1/71
36 1966 Satellite 13.81@104 426 Hemi 425 4-Speed 3.54 CD 4/66
37 1969 Coronet R/T 13.83@102.27 440 4V 375 4-Speed 4.10 SS 4/69
38 1968 Cyclone GT 13.86@101.69 428 CJ 335 automatic 4.11 MT 8/68
39 1969 Nova SS 396 13.87@105.1 396 4V 375 automatic 3.55 HR 7/69
40 1969 Shelby GT-500 13.87@104.52 428 CJ 335 4-Speed 3.91 SS 9/69
41 1969 Cyclone Cobra Jet 13.88@101.7 428 CJ 335 automatic 4.11 MT 1/69
42 1970 Olds 4-4-2 W-30 13.88@95.84 455 W-30 370 automatic 3.42 CC 11/69
43 1962 Corvette 13.89@105.14 327 FI 360 4-Speed 4.10 HR 1/62
44 1969 Barracuda 13.89@103.21 440 4V 375 automatic 4.10 SS 8/69
45 1962 Catalina 13.90@107 421 4V ? 4-Speed 4.30 MT 5/62
46 1969 Mustang Mach I 13.90@103.32 428 CJ 335 automatic 3.50 CL 3/69
47 1967 GTO 13.90@102.8 400 RA 360 automatic 4.33 CL 10/67
48 1970 Trans Am 13.90@102 400 RA 345 4-Speed 3.91 HR 2/70
49 1970 Torino Cobra 13.99@101 429 4V ? 4-Speed 3.91 MT 2/70
Legend: CC=Car Craft, CD=Car and Driver, CL=Car Life, HC=Hi Performance Cars, HR=Hot Rod, MCR=Muscle Car Review, MM=Mopar Muscle, MT=Motor Trend, SS=Super Stock




Fastest Modern Domestic Cars



These are the fastest domestic modern cars in the quarter mile.



FASTEST MODERN DOMESTIC CARS
# YEAR/MODEL ET/MPH ENGINE HP TRANS SOURCE
1 2003 Viper SRT-10 11.8@123 V10 500 6-Speed MT 6/03
2 1997 Viper GTS 12.05@116 V10 450 6-Speed MM 8/97
3 2002 Corvette Z06 12.5@114.9 LS6 350 405 6-Speed MT 2/02
4 1990 ZR1 Corvette 12.8@113.8 LT5 350 375 6-Speed MT 4/90
5 1997 Hurst/Firebird 12.99@103.11 350 350 automatic MCR 4/97
6 2003 SVT Mustang Cobra 13.0@110 4.6L V8 390 6-Speed MT 6/03
7 1992 Viper RT/10 13.1@108 488 V10 400 6-Speed CD 7/92
8 1995 ZR1 Corvette 13.1@112.0 LT5 350 405 6-Speed MT 8/95
9 2001 Corvette Coupe 13.1@109.1 LS1 350 350 6-Speed MT 3/01
10 1997 Corvette 13.20@109.3 350 LS-1 345 6-Speed MT 5/97
11 1997 SLP Camaro SS 13.20@108.8 350 LT4 330 6-Speed MT 2/97
12 1990 Pontiac Firehawk 13.20@107 350 350 6-Speed CD 6/91
13 1996 Camaro Z28 SS 13.46@106.48 350 LT-1 310 6-Speed MCR F/M 9/96
14 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 13.5@107.4 350 LS1 325 6-Speed MT 12/99
15 2002 Camaro Z28 SS 13.5@107.3 350 LS1 325 6-Speed MT 12/01
16 1995 Mustang Cobra R 13.67@102.82 351 300 5-Speed MCR A/S 95
17 1996 Corvette GS 13.7@105.1 350 LT-4 330 6-Speed RT 2/96
18 1987 Buick GNX 13.70@102 231 Turbo V6 300 automatic HR 4/87
19 2001 SVT Mustang Cobra 13.8@103.3 4.6L V8 320 5-Speed MT 12/01

[Z_Fanatic]

well you can get more mpg out of them now. as oppose to 7 mpg from a ss impala.

i think that comes into consideration these days.

[3000ways]

Yeah I believe American cars have gotten a lot better. The cars today are more complete performance vehicles and better vehicles in all today in every way, except for styling.

[FordJunky]

2003 SVT Mustang Cobra 13.0@110 4.6L V8 390 6-Speed MT 6/03

03 cobras hit mid 12's, even the mach hits a 13.1...

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by FordJunky

2003 SVT Mustang Cobra 13.0@110 4.6L V8 390 6-Speed MT 6/03

03 cobras hit mid 12's, even the mach hits a 13.1...

Are you sure, I mean I keep hearing about that mid 12s but I never saw in a magazine anyone making that time ever. I know weather and magazine drivers matter a lot but never??? Even HOT ROD magazine still manages only very high 12s:http://www.hotrod.com/roadtests/79878/index1.html

Here even Justin Bell which pulled out some of the best times out of all these cars could not do it:

[drunken monkey]

well you can get more mpg out of them now. as oppose to 7 mpg from a ss impala

apparrently, driven hard, a ford gt only does about 7mpg...

[3000ways]

I'd be willing, maybe, to except 7MPG from supercar (Ford GT) that I would drive a limited amount of time, but a daily driver only getting 7MPG is brutal especially with gas prices these days.

[drunken monkey]

...but that 7mpg in conjunction with the smallish fuel tanks in the ford gt means that you have to refuel every 75-80 miles.....

that's what makes it slightly rediculous.

[youngvr4]

is the handling on a 69 camaro 427 really that bad?
everyone speaks that they handle like complete absolute $#!T

[Stratocaster5292]

I think a lot of those older cars times were with slicks, also I dont see how a stock 1973 Pontiac trans am could run a 13.6, I thought emission regulations were enlisted in 1972 and nothing had much horsepower from 1972 to the mid 80s when technology had time to catch up to the regulations.

[nbw]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

...but that 7mpg in conjunction with the smallish fuel tanks in the ford gt means that you have to refuel every 75-80 miles.....

that's what makes it slightly rediculous.

I agree, but yet when looking for a supercar and having that kind of budget it really isnt that big of a deal at all. I meen, who is going to use the car as a daily driver?
Now, one thing I do find odd about them is the door roof..(noted from the Top Gear Vid that features the Ford GT). lol

in the late 80's(not sure what year) pontiac had the firebird aniversary model that had a turbo v6(same one as in the gnx?) that did high 13's or low 14's. IIRC
*just giving the 80's one more car to note since there where so few.. :P

[kman10587]

I believe it was the 1989 Trans Am GTA.

[Layla's Keeper]

Well, youngVR4, yes the 427 Cammies weren't good handling machines. The Berger, Yenko, Baldwin Motion, and Dana cars used the iron block 427 which put a ton of weight over the front axle making for lots of understeer. The COPO cars were factory built drag cars, and while their all aluminum 427's were light, the setup wasn't nearly as road course friendly as the 302 powered Z28 Camaros.

Not to mention have you ever driven a car with 4inch wide bias ply tires?

[youngvr4]

hehe thats crazy

[Twyzz]

what about the 67 Barrcuda? Quickest stock car ever mass produced. Ran 10's with a 440