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01-10-2004, 02:48 PM | #1 | |
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96 z28/ss lt4?
does a 96 camaro ss come with an lt4? and they want 8,700$$ for it and it only has 61,000 miles>>>> does this sound right?? it has all the badges and accents off ss..
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01-10-2004, 03:11 PM | #2 | |
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I don't think any factory Camaro's came with the LT4 in 1996 - there were a limited number of Camaro's that got it in 1997 (the year the C5 & LS1 debuted). LT4's were only in the Grand Sport and Collector's Edition Vettes in '96 as far as I know.
This '96 SS probably has LT4 parts on its two-bolt main LT1 engine. The LT4 cylinder heads are the most valuable part and probably good for the extra 30 HP on their own. This car probably has the heads and the red intake manifold (possibly the LT4 "Hot Cam" which by the way is NOT the production LT4 camshaft). GM sells complete LT1 to LT4 conversion kits for around $2,400 which include the LT4 heads, red intake manifold, LT4 "Hot Cam", 1.6 roller rockers, springs, seals, gaskets, etc... they claim the modified engine will put out over 420 HP. I'd find out exactly what parts this engine has - does it have the full conversion kit? The heads and the intake? or simply the "Hot Cam" on its own. Like I said, the cylinder heads are the most important piece. I can't say if $8,700 bucks is a deal because I haven't seen the car - get a mechanic or someone who knows cars to check the body and undercarage. Has it ever been in an accident???? |
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01-10-2004, 05:43 PM | #3 | |
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i looked at the engine it had edelbrock throttle body, and right behind that it said bbk but i dobt kow what theat was. it looks like it is in very good condition lil scrapes on the front bumper on the bottom. it is number 1159 if that helkps in any way of telling what this is. maybe the person did some mods to it and put the lt4 badge oin it for some reason. the car is very clean though. and it had the single exhaust on the drvers side. welll i know it is an ss bcuz i looked at the booklets in the glovebox.
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01-10-2004, 10:32 PM | #4 | |
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Re: 96 z28/ss lt4?
i thought SLP started making SS's in 97?
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01-11-2004, 12:05 AM | #5 | |
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in the owners manual it tells u all the things that are diffeent int heis car from the normal z28. and it does say that slp did do the intake system. there were i think 17 different things from z28 to the ss. actually the reason i started to lookat this car int he first place, is that when i drove by i had to that pooint never seen that body style ss so i thought it wasa fake then i seen the single exhaust then i had to really stop.
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01-11-2004, 10:57 AM | #6 | |
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1996 was the first year for the SS - although back then it was basically just the ram air hood & box and exhaust upgrades (later years got the beefed up suspension and other goodies).
I don't doubt this car is a real SS, but you've got to ask the fellow about that LT4 shit. If the intake manifold is painted red its a good indication that its an LT4 unite (although some people out there like to powder coat their stock units). Asking to see receipts never hurts either. |
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01-11-2004, 06:08 PM | #7 | |
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about the whole LT4 in 1996 thing, the motor in all the camaros from 1993-1997 were identical except for in 1993 the fuel crossover pipe was in the back of the manifold instead of over the middle, and in the 0BDI crs had 1 cat and a speed density system instead of mass air. late 95-97 LT1s have OBDII. But i know that a handful of camaros from 1996-97 had the LT4 from the factory after the grandsport corvette was not being produced anymore because chevrolet had a bunch of LT4 motors left. And the few who do have the LT4 do not have the hot cam in them, its just a factory LT4 fitted with f-body style manifolds.
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01-11-2004, 06:53 PM | #8 | |
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Re: 96 z28/ss lt4?
One way to find out if it is a true SS or not is by asking SLP about the build number, if it is 1159 out of however many were built in 1996 (can't be too many more than that), then they'll have the history of it, including color and options when it left them. If it's BS, SLP's answers should confirm it as such...
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01-11-2004, 07:51 PM | #9 | |
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Re: 96 z28/ss lt4?
I'm with SSboy, I don't know of an SS in 96. I'm almost for certain that the First SS was a 97. Might have been produced in 96 but not a 96.
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01-11-2004, 10:27 PM | #10 | |
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The SS was without a doubt offered in 1996 as a '96 model - same year the Ram Air Firebird's/TA's came out. I don't doubt what this guy is looking at is an SS - unless of course the seller went to a lot of trouble to convert a Z28 to an SS (not much to it really). Calling SLP with the said car's number is obviously sound advice nevertheless).
I think the biggest concern for the dude who is looking to buy is this LT4 mumbo-jumbo. Even if the car was a Z to begin with, as mentioned the only differences in the first place back in '96 were the SS logos, 1-2 interior badges (can't remember if seats were embroidered or not), the ram air setup, and rims. From a consumer standpoint he'd probably be better off if the car was a "fake" SS - you could at least use that to beat the seller down with pricing. The possibility of this car having a $2,400 LT4 conversion (NOT including installation labour), in my opinion , is the much bigger deal. I hate people who brag about having an LT4 in their car when all they've got is the "Hot Cam" (again not even found in the LT4 engine) - OR these laimers who've gone out and purchased an LT4 intake manifold (which is really just a freakin LT1 manifold) and cut off the side flanges so the thing will work with stock LT1 heads (or worse yet guys who simply powdercoat their stock intake and say the whole bloody motor is an LT4!!). I just don't want this dude buying something that its not. As far as pricing goes you guys would be far better giving advice - US dollars and depreciation values in your country just throw me off. |
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01-12-2004, 01:56 AM | #11 | |
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Re: 96 z28/ss lt4?
i've never heard of an LT-4
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01-12-2004, 08:42 AM | #12 | |
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Re: 96 z28/ss lt4?
An LT4 is to an LT1 what an LS6 is to an LS1. Similar, but more hp.
Look for the following before thinking it's a real SS: -1996 SS's came with a numbered plaque on the glove compartment. If it's not there, I'm betting it's a clone. -Look for the WU8 (SS Performance/Appearance Package) RPO code on the driver's side door sticker. If it had any optional equipment, look for the Y2Y RPO code on the door, and then for the SLP sticker in the engine compartment. This sticker will list all of the Y2Y options installed when the vehicle was altered by SLP, above and beyond a base SS conversion. The available Y2Y options on a 1996 SS were as follows: -Performance Exhaust System with dual-dual outlets -Torsen Performance Differential -Synthetic lubricants Package -Hurst six-speed short-throw shifter -Performance suspension -Engine oil cooler -R1 tires -Premium front floor mats with embroidered Camaro SS logo It may or may not have all of these, or any of them, depending on how it was ordered in 96, but it'll definately have the WU8 code if nothing else.
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01-15-2015, 05:07 PM | #13 | |
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Re: 96 z28/ss lt4?
I have a 1996 LT4 SS Camaro convertible that was a feature story and laid the ground work for the 1997 SS LT4 (108 built in 97) It is car 0053 on SLP there are 59 steps to convert the LT1 to a LT4 car.
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