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06-25-2003, 09:46 PM | #61 | ||
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nissan makes some of the crappiest autos. so an auto maxima is a very slow. even a 5 speed 4 cylinder base model accord can take it. the auto max's run's 16's. when a 5 speed maxima's are very quick cars. those are 14 second cars. so they run a high 14 when a auto camaro V8 can run a low 14. still its a bit off, but atleast its within a 5 car range which is still not too bad for a car that has 2 less cylinders and wasn't designed to be an all out drag monster.
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Tekone, And your OPINION wasn't baised?!? The mustang v6 (automatic or manual) will beat a camaro or firebird all day long! The camaro/firebird has a 5 horsepower advantage. WOW!!! 5 horsepower is nothing because it doesn't make up for the 200-250 pound weight disadvantage. I will admit that the mustang gt will get taken by the Z28, transam, or ss. But be fair, the mach 1 is a much better competitor with its 305hp/320tq engine. The mach1 is A LOT lighter than the ss or transam. It would probably be a driver's race. Speaking of the transam and the camaro ss, they would get KILLED by a car that costs ~$1000 more (the mustang cobra). The cobra will beat the corvette c5. The Z06 and the cobra is a toss-up and would probably be a driver's race! It's a little pathetic for chevy though. Ford is keeping up with them with a car that costs around $17000 less!! Plus Tekone, you say that chevy is more powerful than ford. I recall hearing something about a 500 HORSEPOWER FORD GT that will blow all of GM's cars out of the water.
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Here's a little video for you to soak up on Tekone..... and this isn't even a 2000+ Maxima. Its a 98, which is 190 horses stock....
http://mir.freewebspace.com/Movie/Te...MAXvsLS1SS.wmv And this is against an LS1 with slicks, new rear end, headers, cams, exhausts, and intake manifolds..... |
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Second, the Mach 1 is NOT much lighter than a LS1 f-body. A Mach 1 weighs around 3400-3500 lbs. A LS1 f-body weighs approximatly the same. Drivers equal, an auto Mach 1 will lose to a LS1 f-body. A manual Mach 1 will still lose, but it will be close. An 03' Mustang Cobra driven well will beat an LS1 f-body by about 4-5 tenths in the 1/4th drivers equal. However, ever tried to launch an IRS car? It is not easy to do, and it takes practice to get consistent good launches with IRS. A 03' Cobra will take a C5 LS1 'Vette. I agree with that. It will NOT beat a Z06. That has been proven. It is close, but the Z06 will beat it. $17,000 less? Where do you get your figures from? A new 03' Cobra stickers at around $35k not including any dealer markup that dealers very often add. Like as in a $3k markup. A new 03' LS1 C5 sells for usually a little under $50k. There is not a $17k difference b/t the two. It's funny how, whenever people get into a Mustang vs. Camaro discussion, Mustang owners are so quick to bring up the 03' Cobra. Do you know how few of them are out there? I like in a pretty wealthy city overall, and I have only seen 3 03' Cobras since they came out. This is amid at least 10-15 LS1 f-bodies I see every day. They are few and far between. Since you still don't get it, lets do this one more time. V6 Camaro to V6 Mustang= 200 hp vs. 193 hp. Advantage-Chevy V8 f-body to Mustang GT= 310(350 actual) vs. 260 Advantage-Obvious LS1 C5 to 03' Cobra=350 hp vs. 390(actual #'s slightly higher) advantage- Ford LS6 Corvette to 03' Cobra= 405 vs. 390 (actual #'s slightly higher) Advantage- 03' Cobra has a little more power real world. But the Z06 weighs 600ish Lbs less. So, advantage-Chevrolet.
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There is very little to no difference in hp. numbers between Z28's, SS's, formulas, T/A's and WS6 T/A's. They ALL put down close to the same numbers on the dyno. 300-310 for most of them. Does not matter whether it's a Z28, SS, WS6, exc. They all dyno around that range. You ever taken a look under the hood of a Ws6 T/A to see where all the air comming from the 'ram air' hood is going to? Nowhere, just like the regular T/A. The airbox that leads to the MAF is shut tight. So just how, again, does a Ws6 make 10-20 more advertised power with just a fake 'ram air' hood? It doesn't. Same goes for the SS. The exhaust system is just slightly less restrictive, but it provides little in the way of gains. A few hp really. Maybe you should read up on f-bodies. And as for the 03' Cobras, guess what? They are underrated as well. Just not as much. They are underrated by around ~25 hp or so; it varies car to car, just like f-bodies. Like I said, do some research first before spouting off more BS. You have made one too many posts in this thread.
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You're the only person I know who would think that some cheap dime-a-dozen GM engine is better than the VQ series.... |
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READ HERE (from one of my previous posts): That 'official' 1/4th mile time you are quoting was done by both Car and Driver and MT on regular roads, not the track. A lil' bit of a difference there. If that is indeed what they run then how do about 10,000 people in LS1.com have timeslips showing low 13 second runs bone stock right down to the paper air filter? No, f-bodies do not run high 13's in the 1/4th. They run low 13's and high 12's in very good conditions. (e.g. good track prep. a few weight removers) Again, stop spouting more BS. It make you looks bad.
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Here's a little bit for you:
Nissan's VQ series engine..... Ward's Top Ten Engine- 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 ...... and counting "Nissan's 3.5-liter VQ V6 makes a power argument for naming Nissan's VQ engine family one of the best V6 designs of all time," -Ward's Auto World I have never seen the 3.8 on that list before......interesting, Now, shut up, you are wrong about this. Its been on there ever year since it was introduced. |
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